date:20171202

OK  Great that gives me something to work with.

Keep in mind you control how a tiddler looks, at least within the text 
field, so you can choose to use macros and other features that do not show 
links, tag pills etc...

You could transclude other tiddlers into a master tiddler such that on 
export they are all within the html body. If you do not depend on special 
fonts or CSS you can just cut and paste using an editor everything between 
 and  once we have an exporter for only the Text part of the 
HTML render, if I am correct.

Never the less I too would like the ability to export clean HTML Snippets 
as needed.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: Hiccups modifying fonts and color palette (...)

2017-12-02 Thread Patrick Cormier

Hi Eric!!

Thank you very much, quite generous with your time. Is it allowed to 
request paid help (on an hourly basis) in this google group? It's going to 
take too much time for me to iron out the last details and I would rather 
work with and pay someone that knows what they are doing (TW + CSS) to get 
me the file to be as I want it to be. For example, when I tried your 
example, it only colored the background of the text in the cell, the the 
whole cell, etc.

Should I just go ahead and request paid help..? I can't imagine this is 
going to be more than a few hours (total) if someone knows what they are 
doing.

Patrick

Le samedi 2 décembre 2017 21:07:17 UTC-5, Eric Shulman a écrit :
>
> On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 5:30:24 PM UTC-8, Patrick Cormier wrote:
>>
>> I don't know what to change - for  H1 above I read  "Helvetica Neue", 
>> Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande"  and I'm confused - why specify 4 
>> fonts, 2 in quotes, 2 without? 
>>
>
> Different systems have different, but similar font definitions.  To 
> address this, CSS allows you to specify a comma-separated list of font 
> names.  Names that contain spaces (e.g., "Helvetica Neue") must be enclosed 
> in quotes, while names without spaces don't need the quotes.  The list of 
> font names is processed left-to-right, until a font name is matched.  Thus, 
> the list defines a "fallback" sequence... i.e., if "Helvetica Neue" is not 
> found, try "Helvetica", then "Arial", and finally "Lucinda Grande".  If no 
> matching font is found on your system (unlikely, but still possible), the 
> browser will fall back to it's own default font choice (often, but not 
> always, a "Times Roman" serif-ed font).
>
> And for tiddler-body it looks like an incomplete font specification, just 
>> "sans serif"?
>>
>  
> "serif" and "sans-serif" are generic names that always correspond to 
> *some* installed font, so it is often sufficient to just specify the one 
> font name, rather than a whole list of font names
>  
>
>> I am not sure what this means: "you can use @@.classname Your Cell 
>> content@@" / is this how to pad cells or specifiy different cell colors..?
>>
>
> TiddlyWiki syntax allows you to wrap any content (not just table cell 
> content) using @@.classname ...@@ syntax.   The ".classname" refers to a 
> CSS class defined in a stylesheet tiddler (a tiddler tagged with 
> "$:/tags/Stylesheet", containing CSS declarations).  Note that, in the 
> above TiddlyWiki syntax, there is a *space* following the classname... this 
> is important, as it signals the end of the classname and the start of your 
> content.  Everything following that space, up to the closing "@@" is 
> content, that will be styled using the declared classname.
>
> Alternatively, you can also use CSS definitions directly "inline", rather 
> than defining a classname in a separate Stylesheet tiddler.  For example, 
> using the standard CSS text style "color", you can write:
>
> @@font-family:Times New 
> Roman;font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:yellow; THIS IS A BOLD, 
> GREEN, AND SERIF-ED FONT@@
>
> Note also that items of inline CSS are separated by a semi-colon (;) and, 
> unlike the .classname example above, the CSS does not *require* a trailing 
> space, as long as the content that follows it does not match any valid CSS 
> syntax.  Even so, it's a good idea to *always* include the trailing space 
> to ensure that the end of the CSS syntax is clearly defined, regardless of 
> the text content that follows it.
>
> hope this helps,
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Add ability to save/export other extensions

Eric,

If you have no time to investigated this you self could you give some 
guidance?

It may only be a matter of being able to append to the existing table of 
registered file type after the tiddlywiki file has being opened.

Thanks either way

Tony

On Sunday, 3 December 2017 13:16:24 UTC+11, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 5:43:06 PM UTC-8, PMario wrote:
>>
>> You can't, because there is no mime-type: text/cmd
>>
>> see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_type
>> and: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml#text
>>
>
> Although it is not recommended, you can specify ANY string you like as a 
> mime type, even if it is not included in any of the defined standards.  
> Thus, you can enter "text/cmd" into the "Type" field of a tiddler.  
> However, since that is not a standard type, it won't be recognized by any 
> of the usual mechanisms.  Nonetheless, if you extend TiddlyWiki's 
> registeredFileType definitions, you SHOULD be able to export tiddlers with 
> "type/cmd" to files with a ".cmd" extension.  Note that I have NOT tried 
> this myself, so there may be more involved in making it work.
>
> -e
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Add ability to save/export other extensions

Mario,

I know what you say, but as eric says we own the software here that can 
choose. 

I have asked this question in other requests to no response.  To me this 
would open a great deal of potential to store code, snipits, powershell 
scripts, terminal commands and more.

For example recently a Clients web host insisted on DNS Zone File updates 
being presented in a specific format and file standard, it would be easy to 
develop a standard tiddler one could edit some field values and generate 
the file for upload or email.

Additionally We can include a sentenal batch file, loaded on Windows (my 
expertise)  in start up that then monitors downloads (other exported 
tiddlers) and actions them. For example setting symbolic links, displaying 
the full download path, executing system commands sending them to an editor 
or SDK and much more. I also have some ways to ensure a degree of security 
on this.

One compelling example with a currently registered type is automating the 
generation of the settings.json for TiddlyServer in TiddlyWiki then export 
it to the right folder.

Of course we can write something that does not use the existing export 
features, but to me it makes sense using it because it also allows specific 
identification of such registered tiddler types.

Apart form my wanting to boost TW5 interaction with my desktop I see plenty 
of opportunity to use this to simplify install and integration tools, for 
example a tiddler could document and automate the whole install and execute 
process for newbies (by OS). We could even build HTML page builders, NodeJS 
command execution from inside tiddlywiki itself and a lot more.

Ma be I an dreaming?

Tony

On Sunday, 3 December 2017 12:43:06 UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Tony, 
>
> You can't, because there is no mime-type: text/cmd
>
>
> see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_type
> and: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml#text
>
>
> It would be better, to describe, what you want to achieve.
>
>
> -m
>

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[tw] Re: Html Export

2017-12-02 Thread tobaisch

TonyM,
something more detailed.
my wishes to Santa Claus :)
An exportoption of the tiddler into a simple html file.
The header should simply have the title of the exportet Tiddler in the title
maybe export from mytiddler.html
But that's not so important because it's easy to change.

The first line of my visible html-file should be the first line of my 
visible content of my tiddler. So mostly a headline and then the text.
No Tag-Pills, no date-stamp, no links to tiddlers in the text.
Just the visible content of the Tiddler.

For several Tiddlers who are merged together it would be best, if the 
Tiddlers are merged exactly in the content (start of content Tiddler01 -> 
content -> end of content Tiddler01 -> start of content Tiddler02 ...)

The export function is currently really good and meaningful.
But sometimes you need another variant.
Regards
Tob

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[tw] Re: [docs] Introduction to Lists

Mat,

I agree but elsewhere I pointed out what I ask for is often not available 
in existing documentation. Ideally such examples will be right next to the 
guidance that mentions it.

If I prepare some how do I contribute?

Regards
Tony


On Sunday, 3 December 2017 13:05:45 UTC+11, Mat wrote:
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> @Tony
>
> Can I suggest full code examples that a user can copy and past into an 
>> empty.html to see it working,
>>
>
> Well, the idea is for this to be included in the docs on tiddlywiki.com . 
> This is why I link to each topic there, i.e their detailed docs, where 
> examples typically are included also.
>
> <:-)
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[tw] Re: [docs] Introduction to Lists

2017-12-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Hi Mat,

Nice work!

I think without examples that show at least the output, it will be 
confusing to newbies. That is, they won't immediately grasp what the power 
of the tool is that is being discussed. 

You might call "Static" something like "Static/Manual Lists" to convey that 
it's being done by hand.

Good luck!
Mark

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 6:05:45 PM UTC-8, Mat wrote:
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> @Tony
>
> Can I suggest full code examples that a user can copy and past into an 
>> empty.html to see it working,
>>
>
> Well, the idea is for this to be included in the docs on tiddlywiki.com . 
> This is why I link to each topic there, i.e their detailed docs, where 
> examples typically are included also.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Add ability to save/export other extensions

2017-12-02 Thread Eric Shulman

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 5:43:06 PM UTC-8, PMario wrote:
>
> You can't, because there is no mime-type: text/cmd
>
> see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_type
> and: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml#text
>

Although it is not recommended, you can specify ANY string you like as a 
mime type, even if it is not included in any of the defined standards.  
Thus, you can enter "text/cmd" into the "Type" field of a tiddler.  
However, since that is not a standard type, it won't be recognized by any 
of the usual mechanisms.  Nonetheless, if you extend TiddlyWiki's 
registeredFileType definitions, you SHOULD be able to export tiddlers with 
"type/cmd" to files with a ".cmd" extension.  Note that I have NOT tried 
this myself, so there may be more involved in making it work.

-e

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[tw] Re: Hiccups modifying fonts and color palette (...)

2017-12-02 Thread Eric Shulman

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 5:30:24 PM UTC-8, Patrick Cormier wrote:
>
> I don't know what to change - for  H1 above I read  "Helvetica Neue", 
> Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande"  and I'm confused - why specify 4 
> fonts, 2 in quotes, 2 without? 
>

Different systems have different, but similar font definitions.  To address 
this, CSS allows you to specify a comma-separated list of font names.  
Names that contain spaces (e.g., "Helvetica Neue") must be enclosed in 
quotes, while names without spaces don't need the quotes.  The list of font 
names is processed left-to-right, until a font name is matched.  Thus, the 
list defines a "fallback" sequence... i.e., if "Helvetica Neue" is not 
found, try "Helvetica", then "Arial", and finally "Lucinda Grande".  If no 
matching font is found on your system (unlikely, but still possible), the 
browser will fall back to it's own default font choice (often, but not 
always, a "Times Roman" serif-ed font).

And for tiddler-body it looks like an incomplete font specification, just 
> "sans serif"?
>

"serif" and "sans-serif" are generic names that always correspond to *some* 
installed font, so it is often sufficient to just specify the one font 
name, rather than a whole list of font names

> I am not sure what this means: "you can use @@.classname Your Cell 
> content@@" / is this how to pad cells or specifiy different cell colors..?
>

TiddlyWiki syntax allows you to wrap any content (not just table cell 
content) using @@.classname ...@@ syntax.   The ".classname" refers to a 
CSS class defined in a stylesheet tiddler (a tiddler tagged with 
"$:/tags/Stylesheet", containing CSS declarations).  Note that, in the 
above TiddlyWiki syntax, there is a *space* following the classname... this 
is important, as it signals the end of the classname and the start of your 
content.  Everything following that space, up to the closing "@@" is 
content, that will be styled using the declared classname.

Alternatively, you can also use CSS definitions directly "inline", rather 
than defining a classname in a separate Stylesheet tiddler.  For example, 
using the standard CSS text style "color", you can write:

@@font-family:Times New 
Roman;font-weight:bold;color:green;background-color:yellow; THIS IS A BOLD, 
GREEN, AND SERIF-ED FONT@@

Note also that items of inline CSS are separated by a semi-colon (;) and, 
unlike the .classname example above, the CSS does not *require* a trailing 
space, as long as the content that follows it does not match any valid CSS 
syntax.  Even so, it's a good idea to *always* include the trailing space 
to ensure that the end of the CSS syntax is clearly defined, regardless of 
the text content that follows it.

hope this helps,

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
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InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Add ability to save/export other extensions



Hi Tony, 

You can't, because there is no mime-type: text/cmd


see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_type
and: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml#text


It would be better, to describe, what you want to achieve.


-m

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[tw] Re: [docs] Introduction to Lists

Mat,

Good work, Can I suggest full code examples that a user can copy and past 
into an empty.html to see it working, in addition I hope we may include 
examples that refer to the current tiddler using its title, tags or fields.
Most people learn by doing.

Thaks
Tony

On Sunday, 3 December 2017 11:49:25 UTC+11, Mat wrote:
>
> I hope to get the following "Introductions to Lists" into tiddlywiki.com. 
> The text is intentionally brief - it is just an overview of the relevant 
> concepts collect in one place.
>
> This could/should perhaps be posted on TiddlyWikiDocs 
> ... but I figured 
> this forum is more likely to give feedback, especially from noobs. I'm also 
> hoping the Wizards here will point out if anything is missing or wrong.
>
> Note: If you don't like the wikitext formatting below, you can paste the 
> text right into a tiddler on tiddlywiki.com to read it more easily and 
> with working links.
>
> <:-)
>
> ---
>
> title: Introduction to Lists
>
>
> tags: Learning
>
>
> text:
>
> Lists play a central role in TiddlyWiki and there are several aspects of 
> lists worth understanding. The following is a brief run-through of some of 
> the more common techniques associated with lists.
>
> Note that lists often don’t have the typical one-item-per-row appearance. 
> This is especially true for //generated// lists (see below).
>
> !Static lists
>
> !!~WikiText
>
> WikiText lists are explicitly typed lists where special characters are 
> parsed to show special styling. Examples include bullet lists created with 
> asterisks (*) and numbered lists (#). Behind the scenes, WikiText lists are 
> based on the simple `` and `` html-elements. For more, see [[Lists 
> in WikiText]]
>
> !Generated lists
>
> Generated lists center around [[filters|Filters]] in which [[filter 
> operators|Filter Operators]] define which are the concerned tiddlers and 
> which parts of these tiddlers, such as their titles or their texts, that 
> are desired for the output. 
>
> !!~ListWidget
>
> This widget is the most powerful tool for creating lists. It allows the 
> filter output to be manipulated and styled within the ListWidget - also 
> into many forms that don't resemble lists at all, for example tables or 
> complex texts.
>
> ''Side note'': Even tiddlers themselves are made with a ListWidget. The 
> [[tiddler template|$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate]] lists the templates for each 
> constituting field of the tiddler such as the title, the tags, the text and 
> more. 
>
> !!Filtered transclusion
>
> The short form for filtered transclusion (`{{{...}}}`) takes a filter as 
> argument and outputs a line-broken but otherwise unstyled list, unless a 
> template is applied to the output. For example `{{{ [tag[HelloThere]] || 
> $:/core/ui/TagTemplate }}}` lists all tiddlers tagged HelloThere and 
> presents them as tags. 
>
> !!list-links Macro
>
> The [[list-links|list-links Macro]] macro was created to let you quickly 
> and easily get a preformatted list, typically a bullet list. Behind the 
> scenes it really is a ListWidget with some styling.
>
> !Other “list related” commands
>
> [[list|ListField]], [[list-before|Order of Tagged Tiddlers]] and 
> [[list-after|Order of Tagged Tiddlers]] are all //field names// to control 
> the position of tiddlers in a list.
>
> [[list|list Operator]] and [[listed|listed Operator]] are //filter 
> operators// that operate on the [[list field|ListField]]. ([[listed|listed 
> Operator]] can also operator on other fields.)
>
>
>
>
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[tw] Re: Hiccups modifying fonts and color palette (...)

2017-12-02 Thread Patrick Cormier

Thanks Tony,

About the fonts, The problem is I am not a CSS coder or developer... So I 
can read and follow instructions when they are not open to interpretation, 
for example, I found how to upload a font to fontsquirrel to download a 
webkit and then create a tiddler to make the font available. But when I 
read the following which is said to change the fonts of tiddler body text 
and headings:

.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-tiddler-body {
font-family: serif;
}

.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-tiddler-body > h1 {
font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", 
sans-serif;
}

.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-tiddler-body > h2 {
font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", 
sans-serif;
}

.tc-tiddler-frame .tc-tiddler-body > h3 {
font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", 
sans-serif;
}

I don't know what to change - for  H1 above I read  "Helvetica Neue", 
Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande"  and I'm confused - why specify 4 fonts, 
2 in quotes, 2 without? 

And for tiddler-body it looks like an incomplete font specification, just 
"sans serif"?

Is there any hope of getting through this even if I do not know CSS...? 

Also, about "Has the style applying to your smudgy test have a boarder", I 
haven't applied any stype, the text is like that and I do not know why.

I am not sure what this means: "you can use @@.classname Your Cell 
content@@" / is this how to pad cells or specifiy different cell colors..?

Thank you so much for the tips you suggested I am experimenting with them 
now!

Cheers

Patrick

Le samedi 2 décembre 2017 19:49:39 UTC-5, TonyM a écrit :
>
> Patrick,
>
> Without necessarily t answering all your questions, 
>
>- you can use all HTML table and other markup if you know that which 
>allows you to use style or class against most elements
>- Has the style applying to your smudgy test have a boarder?
>- I think someone else has addressed google fonts, and font awesome so 
>search for tiddlywiki + fonts
>- Change the Settings (controlPanel > Appearance > Theme Tweeks 
>Options > Side Bar Layout (I use Fluid Story , Fixed Side bar)
>- $:/core/ui/SideBarLists system tiddler has a lot to to with display 
>of the sidebar
>- You can add tabs in the Side bar by tagging a tiddler $:/tags/SideBar
>- Or perhaps you want a tiddler tagged with one of the following to 
>place things around the page (try this for an image banner
>
> $:/tags/TopLeftBar
> $:/tags/TopRightBar
> $:/tags/AboveStory
> $:/tags/BelowStory
> $:/SiteSubtitle
>
>
>- In tw tables you can use @@.classname Your Cell content@@
>- Or aforementioned full html tables
>
>
> Have a go and ask again :)
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, 3 December 2017 10:34:37 UTC+11, Patrick Cormier wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I used TW about 12 years ago and I just came back to it today... Long 
>> absence, I want to use it to issue newsletters.
>>
>> I made a view only link to the TW hosted on google drive: 
>> http://bit.ly/digitransfo-newletter-1712 (you would have to download and 
>> open lhe file locally)
>>
>> I'm having no problem using the chrome extension for saving changes - 
>> great. Saving is much easier than 12 years ago... :)
>>
>> I did my best changing the color palette so it matches the look & feel 
>> I'm after. I'm stuck however with these unresolved issues:
>>
>>- How can I change the table header text *foreground* color? I only 
>>found how to change the table header text *background*, not 
>>foreground...? See table in tiddler "Featured Content" 
>>- I can't figure out why my white text in the sidebar menu under tabs 
>>"Newsletter Contents" and "About" is smudgy and not as clean as the other 
>>white text?! I've been trying to figure this out for two hours, to no 
>> avail
>>- Is there a way to specify different google fonts for body text and 
>>headings..?
>>- Is there a way to change the horizontal 50-50% screen real estate 
>>split between the sidebar menu and the story? I find the sidebar should 
>>take less than 50%...
>>- Has anyone tried to add an image banner above the sidebar menu? Or 
>>above the whole page? And/or add a page footer?
>>- Does anyone have a cheat sheet or reference guide that explains how 
>>to do more advanced stuff with tables than what is in the basic guide, 
>> for 
>>example, cell padding and modifying the foreground (text) and background 
>>(fill) cell colour on a cell by cell basis? I could do this 12 years ago 
>>but completely forgot how...
>>
>> Sorry, lots of questions for a first post, but I rarely post and can 
>> usually find out stuff on my own, but the questions above, no luck...
>>
>> Merci :)
>>
>> Patrick
>> http://patrick-cormier.info/
>>
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[tw] [TW5] Add ability to save/export other extensions

Folks With a deep understanding of the core perhaps,

In $:/boot/boot.js various types and extensions are registered in lines like

$tw.utils.registerFileType("text/plain","utf8",".txt");


How can I add another such as


$tw.utils.registerFileType("text/cmd","utf8",".cmd");


So I can export with the cmd extension?


Regards

Tony

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[tw] Re: [docs] Introduction to Lists

2017-12-02 Thread Diego Mesa

Thanks for this Mat! Its very helpful and I think essential to the new user 
experience! 

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 6:49:25 PM UTC-6, Mat wrote:
>
> I hope to get the following "Introductions to Lists" into tiddlywiki.com. 
> The text is intentionally brief - it is just an overview of the relevant 
> concepts collect in one place.
>
> This could/should perhaps be posted on TiddlyWikiDocs 
> ... but I figured 
> this forum is more likely to give feedback, especially from noobs. I'm also 
> hoping the Wizards here will point out if anything is missing or wrong.
>
> Note: If you don't like the wikitext formatting below, you can paste the 
> text right into a tiddler on tiddlywiki.com to read it more easily and 
> with working links.
>
> <:-)
>
> ---
>
> title: Introduction to Lists
>
>
> tags: Learning
>
>
> text:
>
> Lists play a central role in TiddlyWiki and there are several aspects of 
> lists worth understanding. The following is a brief run-through of some of 
> the more common techniques associated with lists.
>
> Note that lists often don’t have the typical one-item-per-row appearance. 
> This is especially true for //generated// lists (see below).
>
> !Static lists
>
> !!~WikiText
>
> WikiText lists are explicitly typed lists where special characters are 
> parsed to show special styling. Examples include bullet lists created with 
> asterisks (*) and numbered lists (#). Behind the scenes, WikiText lists are 
> based on the simple `` and `` html-elements. For more, see [[Lists 
> in WikiText]]
>
> !Generated lists
>
> Generated lists center around [[filters|Filters]] in which [[filter 
> operators|Filter Operators]] define which are the concerned tiddlers and 
> which parts of these tiddlers, such as their titles or their texts, that 
> are desired for the output. 
>
> !!~ListWidget
>
> This widget is the most powerful tool for creating lists. It allows the 
> filter output to be manipulated and styled within the ListWidget - also 
> into many forms that don't resemble lists at all, for example tables or 
> complex texts.
>
> ''Side note'': Even tiddlers themselves are made with a ListWidget. The 
> [[tiddler template|$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate]] lists the templates for each 
> constituting field of the tiddler such as the title, the tags, the text and 
> more. 
>
> !!Filtered transclusion
>
> The short form for filtered transclusion (`{{{...}}}`) takes a filter as 
> argument and outputs a line-broken but otherwise unstyled list, unless a 
> template is applied to the output. For example `{{{ [tag[HelloThere]] || 
> $:/core/ui/TagTemplate }}}` lists all tiddlers tagged HelloThere and 
> presents them as tags. 
>
> !!list-links Macro
>
> The [[list-links|list-links Macro]] macro was created to let you quickly 
> and easily get a preformatted list, typically a bullet list. Behind the 
> scenes it really is a ListWidget with some styling.
>
> !Other “list related” commands
>
> [[list|ListField]], [[list-before|Order of Tagged Tiddlers]] and 
> [[list-after|Order of Tagged Tiddlers]] are all //field names// to control 
> the position of tiddlers in a list.
>
> [[list|list Operator]] and [[listed|listed Operator]] are //filter 
> operators// that operate on the [[list field|ListField]]. ([[listed|listed 
> Operator]] can also operator on other fields.)
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

Mark,

In all my years of using Portable apps (perhaps even 20 years) off and On I 
have never seen malware. Once you install it running a scan against it 
should be insightful as many people use it and most virus programs know 
these files, most of which are the same as the original just packaged to be 
portable.

ie PortableApps.com is my source.

I have a high level of confidence in portableapps.com

Regards
Tony 

On Sunday, 3 December 2017 11:07:11 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> But portable apps isn't mozilla, so there's the possibility of malware 
> having been inserted.
>
> On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-8, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> With FF portable you may also use as many profiles as you want:
>>
>> https://portableapps.com/support/firefox_portable#second_profile
>>
>> There's also FF ESR portable versions in 17 languages if preferred:
>>
>> https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox-portable-esr
>>
>> I am using portable versions out of an USB at my office for many years 
>> now, due to being prohibited to install anything on my work PC, with no 
>> issues at all.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alfonso
>>
>> On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 10:52:22 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I always wonder whether I can trust the portable apps site.
>>>
>>> Using profiles, a command argument string, and a zip extractor, you can 
>>> run multiple versions of FF. (See 
>>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1170758) Presumably you 
>>> could run an old version of FF as long as the operating system supports it 
>>> (e.g. it doesn't break when 128 bits OS comes out). Old copies are 
>>> available at https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/. You would 
>>> need to remember not to do any important browsing or commerce on the 
>>> browser. And you would want to load it up with all the special extensions 
>>> it needs before they disappear from Mozilla and/or the net.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Hiccups modifying fonts and color palette (...)

Patrick,

Without necessarily t answering all your questions, 

   - you can use all HTML table and other markup if you know that which 
   allows you to use style or class against most elements
   - Has the style applying to your smudgy test have a boarder?
   - I think someone else has addressed google fonts, and font awesome so 
   search for tiddlywiki + fonts
   - Change the Settings (controlPanel > Appearance > Theme Tweeks Options 
   > Side Bar Layout (I use Fluid Story , Fixed Side bar)
   - $:/core/ui/SideBarLists system tiddler has a lot to to with display of 
   the sidebar
   - You can add tabs in the Side bar by tagging a tiddler $:/tags/SideBar
   - Or perhaps you want a tiddler tagged with one of the following to 
   place things around the page (try this for an image banner

$:/tags/TopLeftBar
$:/tags/TopRightBar
$:/tags/AboveStory
$:/tags/BelowStory
$:/SiteSubtitle


   - In tw tables you can use @@.classname Your Cell content@@
   - Or aforementioned full html tables


Have a go and ask again :)

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, 3 December 2017 10:34:37 UTC+11, Patrick Cormier wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I used TW about 12 years ago and I just came back to it today... Long 
> absence, I want to use it to issue newsletters.
>
> I made a view only link to the TW hosted on google drive: 
> http://bit.ly/digitransfo-newletter-1712 (you would have to download and 
> open lhe file locally)
>
> I'm having no problem using the chrome extension for saving changes - 
> great. Saving is much easier than 12 years ago... :)
>
> I did my best changing the color palette so it matches the look & feel I'm 
> after. I'm stuck however with these unresolved issues:
>
>- How can I change the table header text *foreground* color? I only 
>found how to change the table header text *background*, not 
>foreground...? See table in tiddler "Featured Content" 
>- I can't figure out why my white text in the sidebar menu under tabs 
>"Newsletter Contents" and "About" is smudgy and not as clean as the other 
>white text?! I've been trying to figure this out for two hours, to no avail
>- Is there a way to specify different google fonts for body text and 
>headings..?
>- Is there a way to change the horizontal 50-50% screen real estate 
>split between the sidebar menu and the story? I find the sidebar should 
>take less than 50%...
>- Has anyone tried to add an image banner above the sidebar menu? Or 
>above the whole page? And/or add a page footer?
>- Does anyone have a cheat sheet or reference guide that explains how 
>to do more advanced stuff with tables than what is in the basic guide, for 
>example, cell padding and modifying the foreground (text) and background 
>(fill) cell colour on a cell by cell basis? I could do this 12 years ago 
>but completely forgot how...
>
> Sorry, lots of questions for a first post, but I rarely post and can 
> usually find out stuff on my own, but the questions above, no luck...
>
> Merci :)
>
> Patrick
> http://patrick-cormier.info/
>

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[tw] [docs] Introduction to Lists

2017-12-02 Thread Mat

I hope to get the following "Introductions to Lists" into tiddlywiki.com. 
The text is intentionally brief - it is just an overview of the relevant 
concepts collect in one place.

This could/should perhaps be posted on TiddlyWikiDocs 
... but I figured 
this forum is more likely to give feedback, especially from noobs. I'm also 
hoping the Wizards here will point out if anything is missing or wrong.

Note: If you don't like the wikitext formatting below, you can paste the 
text right into a tiddler on tiddlywiki.com to read it more easily and with 
working links.

<:-)

---

title: Introduction to Lists


tags: Learning


text:

Lists play a central role in TiddlyWiki and there are several aspects of 
lists worth understanding. The following is a brief run-through of some of 
the more common techniques associated with lists.

Note that lists often don’t have the typical one-item-per-row appearance. 
This is especially true for //generated// lists (see below).

!Static lists

!!~WikiText

WikiText lists are explicitly typed lists where special characters are 
parsed to show special styling. Examples include bullet lists created with 
asterisks (*) and numbered lists (#). Behind the scenes, WikiText lists are 
based on the simple `` and `` html-elements. For more, see [[Lists 
in WikiText]]

!Generated lists

Generated lists center around [[filters|Filters]] in which [[filter 
operators|Filter Operators]] define which are the concerned tiddlers and 
which parts of these tiddlers, such as their titles or their texts, that 
are desired for the output. 

!!~ListWidget

This widget is the most powerful tool for creating lists. It allows the 
filter output to be manipulated and styled within the ListWidget - also 
into many forms that don't resemble lists at all, for example tables or 
complex texts.

''Side note'': Even tiddlers themselves are made with a ListWidget. The 
[[tiddler template|$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate]] lists the templates for each 
constituting field of the tiddler such as the title, the tags, the text and 
more. 

!!Filtered transclusion

The short form for filtered transclusion (`{{{...}}}`) takes a filter as 
argument and outputs a line-broken but otherwise unstyled list, unless a 
template is applied to the output. For example `{{{ [tag[HelloThere]] || 
$:/core/ui/TagTemplate }}}` lists all tiddlers tagged HelloThere and 
presents them as tags. 

!!list-links Macro

The [[list-links|list-links Macro]] macro was created to let you quickly 
and easily get a preformatted list, typically a bullet list. Behind the 
scenes it really is a ListWidget with some styling.

!Other “list related” commands

[[list|ListField]], [[list-before|Order of Tagged Tiddlers]] and 
[[list-after|Order of Tagged Tiddlers]] are all //field names// to control 
the position of tiddlers in a list.

[[list|list Operator]] and [[listed|listed Operator]] are //filter 
operators// that operate on the [[list field|ListField]]. ([[listed|listed 
Operator]] can also operator on other fields.)




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[tw] Re: Hard Linebreaks not appearing with some text formatting

Andrew,

TiddlyWiki is fantastic as responding to most of html, a Quick check of the 
CSS rules shows you can add styles or classes to most HTML elements, 
including Pre

https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css_websafe_fonts.asp



Some text 



Some text 


or


Some text 


Regards
Tony

On Sunday, 3 December 2017 07:50:08 UTC+11, AndrewMc wrote:
>
> Thanks Tony
>
> The use of   tags does indeed give the desired line layout. It 
> also allows the use of wikitext formatting such as ''bold'' and 
> //italics//. However, it does also give a fixed-spacing font which may not 
> be desired.
>
> Cheers
> Andrew Mc
>
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 2:12:24 PM UTC+13, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> As Suggested, I did the Homework for you.
>>
>> Try this - wrap in a  tag, not tiddler links still work
>>
>>  
>> Text in a pre element
>> is displayed in a fixed-width
>> font, and it preserves
>> both  spaces and [[HTML use in Tiddlers]]
>> line breaks
>>  
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Sunday, 26 November 2017 13:32:46 UTC+11, AndrewMc wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I need to have hard linebreaks appear in some of my text (a quoted part 
>>> a poem).
>>> I followed the instructions at 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText and 
>>> successfully had the line breaks appear.
>>> However, as soon as I added italics or bold formatting to the entire 
>>> block of text, the line breaks disappeared.
>>>
>>> The following wikitext works:
>>> """
>>> This is a line
>>> and this is a new line
>>> while this is yet another line
>>> """
>>>
>>> This is a line
>>> and this is a new line
>>> while this is yet another line
>>> -
>>>
>>> However, adding italics or bold to the inside of the whole block removes 
>>> the line breaks:
>>> """
>>> //This is a line
>>> and this is a new line
>>> while this is yet another line//
>>> """
>>>
>>> """
>>> ''This is a line
>>> and this is a new line
>>> while this is yet another line''
>>> """
>>>
>>> *This is a line and this is a new line while this is yet another line*
>>>
>>>
>>> *This is a line and this is a new line while this is yet another line*
>>>
>>> Note that the italics (or bold) formatting doesn't have to surround the 
>>> whole block of text for the line breaks to be affected. If the formatted 
>>> text encompasses a line break, then that line break will not appear. 
>>> -
>>>
>>> If I put the formatting outside the hard line break block, then both the 
>>> formatting and the line breaks appear:
>>>
>>> //"""
>>> This is a line
>>> and this is a new line
>>> while this is yet another line
>>> """//
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *This is a lineand this is a new linewhile this is yet another line*
>>>
>>> Is this expected behaviour, or have I discovered a small bug in the 
>>> wikitext processing?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Andrew Mc
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

2017-12-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

But portable apps isn't mozilla, so there's the possibility of malware 
having been inserted.

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 3:35:29 PM UTC-8, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> With FF portable you may also use as many profiles as you want:
>
> https://portableapps.com/support/firefox_portable#second_profile
>
> There's also FF ESR portable versions in 17 languages if preferred:
>
> https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox-portable-esr
>
> I am using portable versions out of an USB at my office for many years 
> now, due to being prohibited to install anything on my work PC, with no 
> issues at all.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alfonso
>
> On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 10:52:22 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I always wonder whether I can trust the portable apps site.
>>
>> Using profiles, a command argument string, and a zip extractor, you can 
>> run multiple versions of FF. (See 
>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1170758) Presumably you 
>> could run an old version of FF as long as the operating system supports it 
>> (e.g. it doesn't break when 128 bits OS comes out). Old copies are 
>> available at https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/. You would 
>> need to remember not to do any important browsing or commerce on the 
>> browser. And you would want to load it up with all the special extensions 
>> it needs before they disappear from Mozilla and/or the net.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Html Export

Tobaisch,

I am developing my skills and want to build my own exporters so may build 
one. 

Can you explain what you want and I will see if I can build one for you?

eg; Export the rendered tiddler text field as a HTML snipit, such that it 
can be pasted into another HTML page (without header and tags just the text 
part rendered)
or  Export the rendered tiddler text field as a HTML, such that it a 
standalone HTML page (without header and tags just the text part rendered)
etc...

PS - in the mean time the tiddler you want to render as html can be 
designed by you not to include internal links that may interfere with your 
final product.

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, 2 December 2017 17:53:18 UTC+11, tobaisch wrote:
>
> I just cant find any starting point.
> no idea how i could change anything and especially where?
> Regards
> Tob
>

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[tw] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

2017-12-02 Thread Alfonso Arciniega

Mark,

With FF portable you may also use as many profiles as you want:

https://portableapps.com/support/firefox_portable#second_profile

There's also FF ESR portable versions in 17 languages if preferred:

https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox-portable-esr

I am using portable versions out of an USB at my office for many years now, 
due to being prohibited to install anything on my work PC, with no issues 
at all.

Cheers,

Alfonso

On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 10:52:22 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I always wonder whether I can trust the portable apps site.
>
> Using profiles, a command argument string, and a zip extractor, you can 
> run multiple versions of FF. (See 
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1170758) Presumably you could 
> run an old version of FF as long as the operating system supports it (e.g. 
> it doesn't break when 128 bits OS comes out). Old copies are available at 
> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/. You would need to remember 
> not to do any important browsing or commerce on the browser. And you would 
> want to load it up with all the special extensions it needs before they 
> disappear from Mozilla and/or the net.
>

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[tw] Hiccups modifying fonts and color palette (...)

2017-12-02 Thread Patrick Cormier

Hello everyone,

I used TW about 12 years ago and I just came back to it today... Long
absence, I want to use it to issue newsletters.

I made a view only link to the TW hosted on google drive:
http://bit.ly/digitransfo-newletter-1712 (you would have to download and
open lhe file locally)

I'm having no problem using the chrome extension for saving changes -
great. Saving is much easier than 12 years ago... :)

I did my best changing the color palette so it matches the look & feel I'm
after. I'm stuck however with these unresolved issues:

- How can I change the table header text *foreground* color? I only
found how to change the table header text *background*, not
foreground...? See table in tiddler "Featured Content"
- I can't figure out why my white text in the sidebar menu under tabs
"Newsletter Contents" and "About" is smudgy and not as clean as the other
white text?! I've been trying to figure this out for two hours, to no avail
- Is there a way to specify different google fonts for body text and
headings..?
- Is there a way to change the horizontal 50-50% screen real estate
split between the sidebar menu and the story? I find the sidebar should
take less than 50%...
- Has anyone tried to add an image banner above the sidebar menu? Or
above the whole page? And/or add a page footer?
- Does anyone have a cheat sheet or reference guide that explains how to
do more advanced stuff with tables than what is in the basic guide, for
example, cell padding and modifying the foreground (text) and background
(fill) cell colour on a cell by cell basis? I could do this 12 years ago
but completely forgot how...

Sorry, lots of questions for a first post, but I rarely post and can
usually find out stuff on my own, but the questions above, no luck...

Merci :)

Patrick
http://patrick-cormier.info/

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[tw] Re: Confused and overwhelmed

Folks,

You all miss interpret my comments, and in fact I expected that. I am all for 
warts and all critical conversation but on a thread with a newbie who had no 
need to get involved with this issue, just give them solutions. We have perhaps 
even too many.

Once again I have made a quick and short responce rather than addressing 
comments in detail. I hope you can extrapolate.

please do not be offended, its a simple point.

tony

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

Hi Diego, 

The uni-link class is basically assigned to every link which uses brackets. 
Excpet pretty-links and CamelCase links. ... 

But I like your idea. We could change the macro 
https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fwikilabs%2Funi-link%2Funi-link-macro
 
that is used and assign different classes, depending on the element that is 
used to display the title. 

eg: no change for titles,  ... uni-link both of the following: uni-caption, 
uni-subtitle,  ... Will have a look. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> I've been trying out this plugin, and I am unsure as to the behavior I am 
> seeing on my wiki. On my wiki, after installing this plugin and refreshing, 
> and changing the styled color to orange so I can easily detect it, *all* 
> normal links, eg. [[Existing Tiddler]], are orange. My pretty links remain 
> as they were. Right now, none of my tiddlers contain caption or subtitle 
> fields, so I expected to see no orange links.
>

I'll need to check that. 
-m

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[tw] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 3:46:02 AM UTC+1, vayira wrote:
>
> I'm glad I ignored FF's messages about upgrading. I've been using TW 
> classic for so long I can't remember & I run my life from it. But I'm not 
> sure what to do now. 
>
> If I upgrade FF then I'll loose autosave by the looks of things. But will 
> I be able to save at all? I'm using TiddlyWiki (clasic) 2.6.6 
>
> My heart always sinks when I see my favourite software has been 
> "improved". 
>

file-backups: https://github.com/pmario/file-backups for firefox...  chrome 
version is planned.
savetiddlers: https://github.com/buggyj/savetiddlers for firefox and chrome 

Both AddOns support TWclassic. 
-m
 

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[tw] Re: Hard Linebreaks not appearing with some text formatting

Hi,

When you block format a paragraph, it gets split into separate lines so you 
need to style them separately:

"""
//This is a line//
''and this is a new line''
//while this is yet another line//
"""

The issue is with how HTML itself treats block and inline elements, I think.

Regards,
Richard



On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 1:32:46 PM UTC+11, AndrewMc wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I need to have hard linebreaks appear in some of my text (a quoted part a 
> poem).
> I followed the instructions at 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText and 
> successfully had the line breaks appear.
> However, as soon as I added italics or bold formatting to the entire block 
> of text, the line breaks disappeared.
>
> The following wikitext works:
> """
> This is a line
> and this is a new line
> while this is yet another line
> """
>
> This is a line
> and this is a new line
> while this is yet another line
> -
>
> However, adding italics or bold to the inside of the whole block removes 
> the line breaks:
> """
> //This is a line
> and this is a new line
> while this is yet another line//
> """
>
> """
> ''This is a line
> and this is a new line
> while this is yet another line''
> """
>
> *This is a line and this is a new line while this is yet another line*
>
>
> *This is a line and this is a new line while this is yet another line*
>
> Note that the italics (or bold) formatting doesn't have to surround the 
> whole block of text for the line breaks to be affected. If the formatted 
> text encompasses a line break, then that line break will not appear. 
> -
>
> If I put the formatting outside the hard line break block, then both the 
> formatting and the line breaks appear:
>
> //"""
> This is a line
> and this is a new line
> while this is yet another line
> """//
>
>
>
> *This is a lineand this is a new linewhile this is yet another line*
>
> Is this expected behaviour, or have I discovered a small bug in the 
> wikitext processing?
>
> Cheers
> Andrew Mc
>

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[tw] Re: Html Export

Hi Again,

Unfortunately, to do what you want requires you to understand wikitext a 
bit better. The 'static tiddler' tiddler is using the 'view template' to 
render the static representation. 'view template' is rendering all the 
tiddlers that have the tag '$:/tags/ViewTemplate'. The sidebar you added 
should list those amongst the rest. If you remove the tag from a tiddler, 
it will cease to be statically rendered but it will also cease to be 
rendered into the wiki (for example, remove it from 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags and the tag pills will disappear). To change 
the static export without affecting your own wiki, you need to alter 
'static tiddler' to use a different template instead of ''view template", 
probably by cloning it and changing the references. Good luck.

Regards,
Richard

On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 4:40:33 AM UTC+11, tobaisch wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
> thank you.
> In the files $:/core/templates/static-tiddler respectively.
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate i find no approach where i could change my exports 
> in such a way that no Tiddler-Links are displayed and that the Tag-Pills in 
> the exported html file can be turned off.
> I deleted a little bit something in the files.
> Either nothing happens or everything is gone. That does not make sense. :)
>
> *
> \define frame-classes()
> tc-tiddler-frame tc-tiddler-view-frame $(missingTiddlerClass)$ 
> $(shadowTiddlerClass)$ $(systemTiddlerClass)$ $(tiddlerTagClasses)$
> \end
> \define folded-state()
> $:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$
> \end
> <$set name="storyTiddler" value=<>><$set 
> name="tiddlerInfoState" value=< "$:/state/popup/tiddler-info">>><$tiddler tiddler=<>> class=<>><$list 
> filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]!has[draft.of]]" 
> variable="listItem"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>
> 
> 
> ***
>
> I also got the systemtiddlers to the sidebar, as you recommended.
> I absolutely do not know what to do with it. 
> I'm just looking for a way to export to static Html with no Tiddler-Links 
> and Tag-Pills.
>
> Excuse me for my stupidity
> I'm just beginning to understand all that new stuff in the Tiddler system.
> Regards
> Tob
>

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[tw] Re: Hard Linebreaks not appearing with some text formatting

2017-12-02 Thread AndrewMc

Thanks Tony

The use of   tags does indeed give the desired line layout. It 
also allows the use of wikitext formatting such as ''bold'' and 
//italics//. However, it does also give a fixed-spacing font which may not 
be desired.

Cheers
Andrew Mc

On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 2:12:24 PM UTC+13, TonyM wrote:
>
> As Suggested, I did the Homework for you.
>
> Try this - wrap in a  tag, not tiddler links still work
>
>  
> Text in a pre element
> is displayed in a fixed-width
> font, and it preserves
> both  spaces and [[HTML use in Tiddlers]]
> line breaks
>  
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, 26 November 2017 13:32:46 UTC+11, AndrewMc wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I need to have hard linebreaks appear in some of my text (a quoted part a 
>> poem).
>> I followed the instructions at 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hard%20Linebreaks%20in%20WikiText and 
>> successfully had the line breaks appear.
>> However, as soon as I added italics or bold formatting to the entire 
>> block of text, the line breaks disappeared.
>>
>> The following wikitext works:
>> """
>> This is a line
>> and this is a new line
>> while this is yet another line
>> """
>>
>> This is a line
>> and this is a new line
>> while this is yet another line
>> -
>>
>> However, adding italics or bold to the inside of the whole block removes 
>> the line breaks:
>> """
>> //This is a line
>> and this is a new line
>> while this is yet another line//
>> """
>>
>> """
>> ''This is a line
>> and this is a new line
>> while this is yet another line''
>> """
>>
>> *This is a line and this is a new line while this is yet another line*
>>
>>
>> *This is a line and this is a new line while this is yet another line*
>>
>> Note that the italics (or bold) formatting doesn't have to surround the 
>> whole block of text for the line breaks to be affected. If the formatted 
>> text encompasses a line break, then that line break will not appear. 
>> -
>>
>> If I put the formatting outside the hard line break block, then both the 
>> formatting and the line breaks appear:
>>
>> //"""
>> This is a line
>> and this is a new line
>> while this is yet another line
>> """//
>>
>>
>>
>> *This is a lineand this is a new linewhile this is yet another line*
>>
>> Is this expected behaviour, or have I discovered a small bug in the 
>> wikitext processing?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrew Mc
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting my simple mobile layout...

2017-12-02 Thread Abraham Samma

Hi JD,

I was wondering if your plugin's latest version solves a problem that I've 
experienced when using TW via the mobile browser (chrome). Trying to write 
something in the editor on mobile usually brings up a javascript error 
(setting data to null). Is this experienced by others or is it just me?

Regards.

On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 12:49:23 PM UTC+3, JD wrote:
>
> Hello, I tried slowly resizing my browser window, and yep, there seems to 
> be a completely different "Sidebar break point" or something. 
>
> Interesting to note that I tried doing this on tiddlywiki.com itself and 
> tiddlywiki.com/empty.html without installing the plugin. This problem 
> seems to be a core one (I noticed that at this strange, middle ground, the 
> Vanilla theme isn't applied, evidenced by the tiddler drop shadows 
> disappearing)
>
> I wonder what this middle breakpoint is, and how to properly style it.
>
> If there are ideas, please let me know :)
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 4:58:55 AM UTC+9, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mark - I did notice that, and I saw the tb5 link above to 
>> auto-hide the sidebar as well. 
>>
>> My problem is that there seems to be 3 sidebar states: 
>>
>> 1. The default sidebar when my window is normal size
>> 2. The mobile sidebar created by this plugin
>> 3. A strange "middle state" that is white that appears for a very small 
>> margin.
>>
>> The behavior can be seen in this gif:
>>
>> https://media.giphy.com/media/3osBLlm8SRZydLLnIA/giphy.gif
>>
>>
>> An interesting (though nonrelated?) issue I'm having is that I use a 
>> window manager (lua script running in hammerspoon) to automatically resize 
>> my windows. When I resize my TW browser window, the theme does not update. 
>> I have to manually wiggle the window size to get the new layout to "kick 
>> in". 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:53:41 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> On a small screen, if you have the double chevron clicked, that is what 
>>> happens. Just click the double chevron again (lower right corner) to 
>>> restore.
>>>
>>> Apologies if this is not the problem you are describing.
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:48:59 AM UTC-8, Diego Mesa wrote:

 Hey JD,

 Thanks for this! On my TW, Im not sure why, but this is causing strange 
 rendering where basically my sidebar isn't behaving well and ends up 
 taking 
 over everything. 

 On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 9:31:14 AM UTC-6, JD wrote:
>
> Hi, I've upgraded this plugin to *1.0.2*, what is possibly the last 
> update for a long while (I will now return to my lair and focus on using 
> / 
> discovering TW5.)
>
> http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Thanks, everyone, for welcoming my stuff :)
>
> *Changelog:*
>
>- Added *Larger*, *Largest*, and *Smallest* options to font sizes
>- Added *Mobbuttons* option to topbar and bottombar
>- Added options to topbar and bottombar configurations
>- Added button to config modal (can be turned on or off)
>- Cleaned up config tiddler
>- Cleaned up code and other bugfixes
>
> Versions *0.9.9* and *1.0.0* are attached to my previous announcer 
> post (for backup)
> Version *1.0.2* is attached to this post
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 2:07:04 AM UTC+9, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello again, everyone, I've upgraded this plugin to *1.0.0* I've 
>> completed my personal *Future plans*, but my *Wishlist* (gesture-related 
>> things) remains unrealized. 
>>
>> http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> I'm going to slow down the development of this plugin because it is 
>> now exactly what I need it to be. I'll just update if I encounter bugs 
>> or 
>> if anybody needs me to. Suggestions and ideas, however, are always 
>> welcome. 
>>
>> (I feel like I had nice timing: tiddlyspot worked again, and TW 
>> itself was upgraded to 5.1.15)
>>
>> Many thanks to Riz and Jed Carty for inspiring me!
>>
>> *Changelog:*
>>
>>- Abandoned custom *lists*, reverted to core *lists*
>>- Added topbar and bottombar options (with preset combinations)
>>   - topbar: *combined searchbar*, or *titlebar*, or *controls 
>>   area*, or hidden
>>   - bottombar: *controls area*, or hidden
>>- Added ability to adjust font sizes and button sizes
>>- Added 'delete' filter button to *combined searchbar*
>>- Introduced *simple searchbar* available as a button only at 
>>topbar *controls area* and *titlebar*
>>- Added ability to use an experiment on the story river so the 
>>first tiddler in the story river won't scroll past the topbar (just a 
>>stylesheet option)
>>- Overhauled the *config *tiddler
>>- 
>>- Cleaned up code and tiddler

[tw] Re: Html Export

2017-12-02 Thread Abraham Samma

I think community members should consider taking up the challenge of 
creating new kinds of exporters. I for example use TW5 a lot to write draft 
articles for medium.com. I could very well do with an exporter that exports 
directly to medium.com

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 1:01:10 AM UTC+3, tobaisch wrote:
>
> Hello,
> short question:
> Is there a way to change the Html Export Settings?
> I don't like to export all my Tiddler-links & my TAG-Pills on the top of 
> the tiddler.
> Maybe, there is a export template to change it.
> Regards
> Tob
>

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[tw] Re: Confused and overwhelmed

2017-12-02 Thread Abraham Samma



Information/knowledge in one place is what tiddlywiki is all about. Its 
basically a html5 app that is portable and that can also be hosted online 
like a normal website. As many have already pointed out, you can start by 
checking out tiddlywiki.com

You'll find tiddlywiki to be a great way of experimenting with web 
technologies. Many in here have contributed code, plugins and projects to 
this thing. I encourage you to not falter and stay on to discover more. You 
won't regret it. 

Welcome.

On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 11:37:19 AM UTC+3, Heather Mcclelland wrote:
>
> Every time I start getting confident about my technical abilities, I find 
> something that puts me squarely in my place.
>
> I am an all over apple user. And that means I have info all over all my 
> apple devices, mostly in various apps and of course all over the cloud.
>
> I started googling personal knowledge management to see what I could do 
> about putting everything in one spot, in the hopes of sharing at some 
> point. I came across tiddlywinks. In theory, it sounds awesome. But, I have 
> no clue where to start. And worse, I'm having a hard time understanding how 
> to access whatever it is that I'm creating. 
>
> I'm a graphic design student and am feeling a little dumb at my lack of 
> knowledge in the developing area.
>
> Where is a good place to go with just some very basic info?
>
>

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[tw] Re: Html Export

2017-12-02 Thread tobaisch

Hi Richard,
thank you.
In the files $:/core/templates/static-tiddler respectively.
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate i find no approach where i could change my exports 
in such a way that no Tiddler-Links are displayed and that the Tag-Pills in 
the exported html file can be turned off.
I deleted a little bit something in the files.
Either nothing happens or everything is gone. That does not make sense. :)

*
\define frame-classes()
tc-tiddler-frame tc-tiddler-view-frame $(missingTiddlerClass)$ 
$(shadowTiddlerClass)$ $(systemTiddlerClass)$ $(tiddlerTagClasses)$
\end
\define folded-state()
$:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$
\end
<$set name="storyTiddler" value=<>><$set 
name="tiddlerInfoState" value=<>><$tiddler tiddler=<<$list 
filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]!has[draft.of]]" 
variable="listItem"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>


***

I also got the systemtiddlers to the sidebar, as you recommended.
I absolutely do not know what to do with it. 
I'm just looking for a way to export to static Html with no Tiddler-Links 
and Tag-Pills.

Excuse me for my stupidity
I'm just beginning to understand all that new stuff in the Tiddler system.
Regards
Tob

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[tw] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

2017-12-02 Thread vayira

Yes. I downloaded the latest version of the classic TW yesterday to check 
it out. At least that gives the option of download type saving on any 
browser in case of emergency. When I have time i'll try to import my 
tiddlers to that. I'm also thinking of trying waterfox, as I'm very used to 
a number of extensions for FF. Such a waste of time all this :-( I have 
other things to do. 

On Saturday, 2 December 2017 00:48:28 UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Vayira;
>
> Try TiddlyDesktop first, but also consider Getting a Portable Firefox ESR 
> V 52
>
> There are a lot of solutions available and looking in this forum will 
> help, however having a version which is a few steps behind even TWC 
> (classic) could be an issue, have a go at upgrading (a copy)
>
> Otherwise post in the forum for help.
>
> Regards
> Tony 
>
> On Saturday, 2 December 2017 13:46:02 UTC+11, vayira wrote:
>>
>> I'm glad I ignored FF's messages about upgrading. I've been using TW 
>> classic for so long I can't remember & I run my life from it. But I'm not 
>> sure what to do now. 
>>
>> If I upgrade FF then I'll loose autosave by the looks of things. But will 
>> I be able to save at all? I'm using TiddlyWiki (clasic) 2.6.6 
>>
>> My heart always sinks when I see my favourite software has been 
>> "improved". 
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Weird Tag

2017-12-02 Thread Birthe C

Hi Captain Packers,

I think Ton Gerner is right, find the explanation in the link given by Ton. 
At some point in time I think most of us used that solution, so maybe you 
imported it from someones old TW. If so be ready to rewrite some buttons. 
It is also possible that you created a tag with illegit characters as Tony 
explains. I've had the problem after creating a button from a filter with 
errors.

Birthe


Den lørdag den 2. december 2017 kl. 13.11.42 UTC+1 skrev Ton Gerner:
>
> Hi Captain Packers,
>
> I have this weird tag that shows up in my Tag Manager and the tag drop 
>> list when I'm editing a tiddler (see attachment).
>>
>> Does anyone know where this comes from and how I can get rid of it?
>>
>> I think it is coming from Stephan Hadrek's 
> http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Look at his tags and search for JournalSkeleton.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>

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[tw] Re: Confused and overwhelmed

2017-12-02 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

Ciao TonyM

TonyM wrote:
>
> ... "I bet there are literally hundreds who give up and walk away feeling 
> stupid" is speculation
>

... and I do not think it fair to say it to new users. It could be a "self 
> fulfilling prophecy". 
>

Yes and a big NO.

The issue, to make it coldly rational, is between IDEOGRAPHIC explanation 
(a person's experientially informed intuitive grasp of the situation) and 
NOMOTHETIC reasoning (objective data collection to instantiate material 
trends).

Lacking clear statistics on who takes up what when and how here making 
ideographic guesses about usage is VERY important. RWS did that. 

RichardWS' comments I think were spot on. Mat has made similar points in 
the past. And I and others have too.

The "User who never signed up" remains largely unknowable. But that does 
NOT have any implying that we can't know there is a problem that they 
didn't sign-up. We have that signal from our own knowing.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Confused and overwhelmed

2017-12-02 Thread @TiddlyTweeter

Ciao RichardWS

RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> ... I think there is too much clutter and confusion on the homepage at 
> present and the text that greets first-time users doesn't do a good enough 
> job of explaining what Tiddlywiki is and why it might be useful.
>

Right. 

RichardWilliamSmith also wrote:
the current situation of having 17 (!) different available saving 
mechanisms listed on the main page and expecting people to somehow know 
what's going on.

I agree. IMO, TiddlyWiki is Blessed/Cursed by its flexibility. On the one 
hand, once you get some footing with it, its an ever expanding horizon of 
ways ahead. On the other hand, it can be an off-putting mess for being able 
to find a simple way to just start.

I think this partly reflects love of the great DIY routes to TW. BUT I 
think we sell many potential users short by giving more options than many a 
starter can cope with. 

Its not anyone's fault. This situation was not planned. But the complexity 
of entry is, I think, too much.

I often wonder if whether TW uptake would improve if we had ONE saving 
method (or the practically closest to that). Surely the real point is 
writing Tiddlers, not having to obsess over saving methods?

I am simply, I think, of the view that most potential users probably 
neither need multiple routes nor have interest in them. 

And my guess is pitching TW as a more "click & go" mechanism with the LEAST 
NO OF STEPS to get started would improve uptake.

In some previous posts @Jermolene has referred to one possible future for 
TW for "starting users" might be an online service that deals with all the 
complexity on saving for the basic user. In an increasingly "cloud" world 
that might have merit too.

Just thoughts.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Html Export

Hi,

As a starting point, you can try looking at 
$:/core/templates/static-tiddler - it's including everything that has the 
tag $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate by default, which is the same tag used to 
include them in the wiki itself, so you could change that and add your new 
tag to the pieces of the view template that you want.

In general you can find these system tiddlers using the advanced search 
menu, but I also find it useful to have a tiddler like this one:

\define setStateTid()
> $:/state/systemtags/$(currentTiddler)$
> \end
>
> <$list filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tags[]prefix[$]]">
>
>
> <$reveal type="nomatch" state=<> text="show">
> <$button set=<> setTo="show" 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/right-arrow}}<$link>{{!!title}}
>
> 
> <$reveal type="match" state=<> text="show">
>
> <$button set=<> setTo="hide" 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">{{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}<$link>{{!!title}}
> 
>
>
> <>
>
>
> 
> 
>
>
>
> 
>

that lets me inspect all of them (I add it to the sidebar and this version 
also lets me re-order the tags by dragging them, which is especially useful 
when working with view templates)

Regards,
Richard

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 5:53:18 PM UTC+11, tobaisch wrote:
>
> I just cant find any starting point.
> no idea how i could change anything and especially where?
> Regards
> Tob
>

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[tw] Re: Confused and overwhelmed