[tw] Extra br's

2013-03-10 Thread Arc Acorn
Is there a way to prevent Tw from adding spanned br's in HTML blocks, with 
out having to write a single line of hard to read code?

Tiddly content example:
html
diva div! spana span!/span/div
divstyle scoped div { color: red; } span { color: green; } /style a 
div! spana span!/span/div
diva div! spana span!/span/div
/html


HTML that is actually generated:
div class=viewer
span
span
br
/span
div
spana div! /span
span
/div
span
br
/span
div
style scoped=
div { color: red; } span { color: green; }
/style
span a div! /span
span
spana span!/span
/span
/div
span
br
/span
div
spana div! /span
span
spana span!/span
/span
/div
span
/span
/div

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[tw] Re: @Osmosoft ethical brigades

2013-03-10 Thread Mat
Hi Tobias. Thanks for your always valuable points. I've adjusted a few 
things according now but I'm not confident with all of them so I've added 
you as a member to improve as you see fit.

From my perspective, all that a *plugin space* should hold is a brief 
*SiteInfo 
 *that explains what the plugin does which is tagged '*plugin*'.


- include this *SiteInfo *in the *GettingStarted* using the tiddler 
macro


- make the *SiteTitle* point to *GettingStarted*

  Check x3


- use a short but meaningful *SiteSubtitle*

 I couldn't come up with a snappy summary that made justice to the plugin 
so I didn't do this. 


- tag the plugin not only *systemConfig* but also *excludeLists* and *
excludeSearch*
   - the target spaces really don't need to see it in lists or search 
   results next to actual content

 This I find problematic as it will prevent it from showing up also in the 
plugin space list itself where I do consider it relevant. But also for my 
own spaces I prefer to have included plugins show up in the lists/search.
 

 That's it, no documentation and no additional content, 


Ok, doc deleted. As for included system spaces I'm uncertain what I can 
remove without messing things up so I've left them. But again, I've added 
you so..
 

 Nowadays I even minify plugins using jscompress.com because in this 
 context (from my perspective), it does not need to be readable or have any 
 further documentation other than the plugin header (which points to the 
 documentation).


Hm, not sure I agree with this. Because of my [low] level of competence in 
this I'm happy the more I understand when I look at the code. Also, there 
have been times when I wish to change something minor and this would 
probably not be possible then. I very much appreciate the transparency of 
TW. 

Thank you!

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[tw] Re: several versions of a tiddler?

2013-03-10 Thread Måns
Hi Frederic

 I would like to know if it is possible to have several version of a
 tiddler, with different author? (like alfresco..) Then, perhaps, the way to
 return to the best previous version...?

On tiddlyspace you have an option to revert to previous versions from
a revisions list:
http://docs.tiddlyspace.com/#[[Can%20two%20people%20change%20a%20space%20at%20the%20same%20time%3F]]
Example: 
http://docs.tiddlyspace.com/bags/docs_public/tiddlers/ColorPalette/revisions
There's a diff handler to help generate the correct version of a
tiddler.

If you want to be able to revert to previous versions of a tiddler in
a stand alone TW (no server backend) there's Eric's UndoPlugin:
http://tiddlytools.com/#UndoPlugin
It records changes to tiddlers edited during the session, allowing
you to quickly revert to previous revisions of a tiddler, even after
pressing 'done'.

There's no multi-user revision handler available for stand alone TW
- I'm afraid.

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: @Osmosoft ethical brigades

2013-03-10 Thread PMario
On 10 Mrz., 10:59, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:
  Nowadays I even minify plugins using jscompress.com because in this
  context (from my perspective), it does not need to be readable or have any
  further documentation other than the plugin header (which points to the
  documentation).

 Hm, not sure I agree with this. Because of my [low] level of competence in
 this I'm happy the more I understand when I look at the code. Also, there
 have been times when I wish to change something minor and this would
 probably not be possible then. I very much appreciate the transparency of
 TW.
I second this.
The first thing I do, if a new plugin is introduced, I have a look at
the code. I'm frustrated, if I can't read the code. If the minified
plugin contains a direct link to the code, I'm ok.

If there is an issue with a plugin, having a minified plugin just
raises the bar to contribute, because you have to do a lot of
additional workt to test it.

just my 2€ents
-m

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[tw] Re: several versions of a tiddler?

2013-03-10 Thread Måns
Hi Frederic

 Thanks for your answer... :-) I'm going to install Eric's UndoPlugin but I
 don't see undo button when I edit a tiddler modified... Could you explain 
 this please?

Edit ToolbarCommands: Insert undoChanges as a tool.
Insert command anywhere with toolbar undoChanges

Example: http://xn--mns-ula.dk/TWsOS/testck/

 And I don't see TBD documentation... :-/ Where is it please?

TBD: To Be Done

Notice that Eric writes this about the status of his plugin:

Experimental - DO NOT DISTRIBUTE

- which I guess means something like: I won't give support for this
plugin - if you're having trouble with it ... 

It's been available with this status since May 17th 2011.
I've been using it since it was distributed on tiddlytools.com - and I
haven't had any problems with it.

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Decoding html entities saved in TiddlyWiki's source

2013-03-10 Thread Chlorine Tan
I have made a TiddlyWiki page including a lot of Chinese tiddlers.
Now I want to convert all these simplified Chinese characters to 
traditional ones.

I checked the source and found that all Chinese characters in tiddlers are 
saved in html entities.
I tried to decode the whole html, but unfortunately codes like 
\/script\ were also converted into /script, which led to errors 
when openning the page.

Is there anyway to decode all the html entities of Chinese characters in 
the whole html file without causing other changes?

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[tw] several versions of a tiddler?

2013-03-10 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Frederic,

You could also just create a number of tiddlers that tag to the one you want 
different versions of and add the Author at the end, e.g.:

SomeTiddler
SomeTiddler (Fred) ...tagged SomeTiddler
SomeTiddler (Eric) ...tagged SomeTiddler

But then, merging anything back into the main tiddler may become more and more 
difficult. However, if you keep a tiddlers scope (=content / length / # of 
topics) at bay then this may well be a managable workflow.

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Difficulty getting started

2013-03-10 Thread Tobias Beer
If you create tbGTD directly on TiddlySpot, then it should contain all the 
required plugins required to upload changes ...either directly working on tspot 
or by uploading from a local file.

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: several versions of a tiddler?

2013-03-10 Thread Frederic ALBOU
Wonderful, it works :-) Thanks you very much, Måns...
I am also going to try what propose Tobias.. Thanks !
Cheers, Frederic.



Hi Frederic,

You could also just create a number of tiddlers that tag to the one you 
want different versions of and add the Author at the end, e.g.:

SomeTiddler
SomeTiddler (Fred) ...tagged SomeTiddler
SomeTiddler (Eric) ...tagged SomeTiddler

But then, merging anything back into the main tiddler may become more and 
more difficult. However, if you keep a tiddlers scope (=content / length / 
# of topics) at bay then this may well be a managable workflow.

Cheers, Tobias.


Le samedi 9 mars 2013 18:11:06 UTC+1, Frederic ALBOU a écrit :

 Hi,
 I would like to know if it is possible to have several version of a 
 tiddler, with different author? (like alfresco..) Then, perhaps, the way to 
 return to the best previous version...?
 Thans a lot,
 Bye


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[tw] Re: Difficulty getting started

2013-03-10 Thread Brian Clanton
I created a new account with mGSD...like the interface 
better...http://systechguy40.tiddlyspot.com/.

You comment suggests either or locally  OR from directly on tspot.  When I 
create a Project...click SAVE Changes, I am prompted with You need to save 
TiddliWiki to a file before changes are saved.
When I click 'Save to Web' I am prompted with Username and Password 
missing...I get this even though I entered it in the Welcome screen on the 
Dashboard.

I then goto Backstage and for Upload..I enterd my credentials and click 
'save password'.  I then try to 'save to web' again and I receive this 
error:

br /
bWarning/b:  include(../../prod/files/store_main.php) [a 
href='function.include'function.include/a]: failed to open stream: No 
such file or directory in 
b/home/simonb/websites/static/tiddlyspot.com/sites/s/sy/sys/systechguy40/store.php/b
 
on line b3/bbr /
br /
bWarning/b:  include() [a 
href='function.include'function.include/a]: Failed opening 
'../../prod/files/store_main.php' for inclusion 
(include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php:/usr/local/php5/lib/pear') in 
b/home/simonb/websites/static/tiddlyspot.com/sites/s/sy/sys/systechguy40/store.php/b
 
on line b3/bbr /

  I can get this working if I save to a local directory, then upload my 
file when I make a change, but it is unclear how I can work directly on 
tspot without having to do this step.


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[tw] Re: Difficulty getting started

2013-03-10 Thread Brian Clanton
I just sent an email to simon.ba...@gmail.com with that error.

On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:38:56 PM UTC-5, Brian Clanton wrote:

 I created a new account with mGSD...like the interface better...
 http://systechguy40.tiddlyspot.com/.

 You comment suggests either or locally  OR from directly on tspot.  When I 
 create a Project...click SAVE Changes, I am prompted with You need to save 
 TiddliWiki to a file before changes are saved.
 When I click 'Save to Web' I am prompted with Username and Password 
 missing...I get this even though I entered it in the Welcome screen on the 
 Dashboard.

 I then goto Backstage and for Upload..I enterd my credentials and click 
 'save password'.  I then try to 'save to web' again and I receive this 
 error:

 br /
 bWarning/b:  include(../../prod/files/store_main.php) [a 
 href='function.include'function.include/a]: failed to open stream: No 
 such file or directory in b/home/simonb/websites/static/
 tiddlyspot.com/sites/s/sy/sys/systechguy40/store.php/b on line 
 b3/bbr /
 br /
 bWarning/b:  include() [a 
 href='function.include'function.include/a]: Failed opening 
 '../../prod/files/store_main.php' for inclusion 
 (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php:/usr/local/php5/lib/pear') in 
 b/home/simonb/websites/static/
 tiddlyspot.com/sites/s/sy/sys/systechguy40/store.php/b on line 
 b3/bbr /

   I can get this working if I save to a local directory, then upload my 
 file when I make a change, but it is unclear how I can work directly on 
 tspot without having to do this step.




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[tw] Re: Difficulty getting started

2013-03-10 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Brian,

I experienced the same thing elsewhere that (password) options were not 
saved, not even over a page refresh. Possibly it's a browser issue not 
accepting or deleting cookies? I never bothered too much and just entered 
the password again.

Cheers, Tobias

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[tw] Re: Difficulty getting started

2013-03-10 Thread Eric Shulman
 href='function.include'function.include/a]: failed to open stream: No
 such file or directory in
 b/home/simonb/websites/static/tiddlyspot.com/sites/s/sy/sys/systechguy40/ 
 store.php/b
 on line b3/bbr /

I notice that there is a leading space before  store.php in the
path.  That seems like it would be the cause of the error (no such
file).  I'd check the configuration of option txtUploadStoreUrl
and make sure there's no leading space entered there.

enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Re: Difficulty getting started

2013-03-10 Thread Måns
Hi Brian


 When I click 'Save to Web' I am prompted with Username and Password
 missing...I get this even though I entered it in the Welcome screen on the
 Dashboard.

Find the shadow tiddler TspotControls - enter name (systechguy40) and
password - click upload

 I then goto Backstage and for Upload..I enterd my credentials and click
 'save password'.  I then try to 'save to web' again and I receive this
 error:

 br /
 bWarning/b:  include(../../prod/files/store_main.php) [a
 href='function.include'function.include/a]: failed to open stream: No
 such file or directory in
 b/home/simonb/websites/static/tiddlyspot.com/sites/s/sy/sys/systechguy40/ 
 store.php/b
 on line b3/bbr /
 br /
 bWarning/b:  include() [a
 href='function.include'function.include/a]: Failed opening
 '../../prod/files/store_main.php' for inclusion
 (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php:/usr/local/php5/lib/pear') in
 b/home/simonb/websites/static/tiddlyspot.com/sites/s/sy/sys/systechguy40/ 
 store.php/b
 on line b3/bbr /

TiddlySpot doesn't use store.php (which is the standard for
UploadPlugin)

You'll have to enter store.cgi in the upload dialog (to replace the
standard option: store.php)

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Extra br's

2013-03-10 Thread Arc Acorn
^^; I've been using that plugin so long I totally forgot about it...

Thank you and sorry for the question that was clearly answer in 
already written good documentation... 

On Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:17:53 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:

 On Mar 10, 2:19 am, Arc Acorn nuttyta...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Is there a way to prevent Tw from adding spanned br's in HTML blocks, 
 with 
  out having to write a single line of hard to read code? 

 If you are using 
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#HTMLFormattingPlugin 
 to enable mixing of HTML and wiki-syntax formatting, then linebreaks 
 contained within HTML blocks are treated as literal newline content to 
 be displayed.  You can prevent this handling by embedding a special 
 psuedu-tag within the HTML: hide linebreaks 

 enjoy, 
 -e 
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[tw] Re: FCKEditor has made me crazy tonight...seems broken ???

2013-03-10 Thread Jonas Susara
Thank you, Gunnar. A wonderful solution.

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