[tw] Re: it all started some months ago ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

It all really started when Gene and Margaret began their yearly event for 
HAPPENINGS. After several ideas about the Value of Bats for Modern 
Techniques, The Potato in History, and other worthy themes, they decided 
that a TiddlyWiki sounded like the kind of thing that people like them 
could like under ordinary circumstances. So they went ahead and ordered an 
announcement.

On Friday, 9 February 2018 23:39:19 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> This story is about tiiddly wiki, though it was something that came after 
> John and Mabel had thoughts about it and Jeremy too. And Jeremy got the 
> whole thing and Mabel & John were more concerned with the three-legged dog, 
> that, at the time, was only limping, but later was a force for good that 
> needed proof. There was a certificate for that. In triplicate. 
>
> On Friday, 9 February 2018 22:04:51 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>  the carabinieri had fun humming Bob Dylan songs. They were old 
>> enough to understands humming in harmony. It felt almost like an 
>> organisation. We decided that it would be good to honour the carabinieri in 
>> some way that would be legal. Carl & Sasha created an allotment with a shed 
>> & secured seeded leeks and onions. Obi came in and sang an old Southern 
>> Song about some woman who lost her husband in a war that gave an aura of 
>> authenticity to the whole proceedings.
>>
>> After drinking a while we were thinking: 
>> *Could this be a macro?*
>> On Friday, 9 February 2018 21:28:20 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> ... when we decided it could be a helpful gesture to carry it over the 
>>> conveyor belt as a step towards its destination. Back in the patrol car Obi 
>>> had some concerns that it wasn't quite what he was trained for. After a 
>>> while Obi understood we had a building already with pews and alters and 
>>> candles and worthy events that would keep a anxious person feeling okay. 
>>>
>>> There were all sorts of people on the bench. 
>>>
>>> Then the carabinieri came over and  interviewed me. 
>>>
>>> "Kid, have you rehabilitated?"
>>>
>>> I said, here it comes : 
>>>
>>>  "I don't know the code, yet"  
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: it all started some months ago ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

This story is about tiiddly wiki, though it was something that came after 
John and Mabel had thoughts about it and Jeremy too. And Jeremy got the 
whole thing and Mabel & John were more concerned with the three-legged dog, 
that, at the time, was only limping, but later was a force for good that 
needed proof. There was a certificate for that. In triplicate. 

On Friday, 9 February 2018 22:04:51 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>  the carabinieri had fun humming Bob Dylan songs. They were old enough 
> to understands humming in harmony. It felt almost like an organisation. We 
> decided that it would be good to honour the carabinieri in some way that 
> would be legal. Carl & Sasha created an allotment with a shed & secured 
> seeded leeks and onions. Obi came in and sang an old Southern Song about 
> some woman who lost her husband in a war that gave an aura of authenticity 
> to the whole proceedings.
>
> After drinking a while we were thinking: 
> *Could this be a macro?*
> On Friday, 9 February 2018 21:28:20 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> ... when we decided it could be a helpful gesture to carry it over the 
>> conveyor belt as a step towards its destination. Back in the patrol car Obi 
>> had some concerns that it wasn't quite what he was trained for. After a 
>> while Obi understood we had a building already with pews and alters and 
>> candles and worthy events that would keep a anxious person feeling okay. 
>>
>> There were all sorts of people on the bench. 
>>
>> Then the carabinieri came over and  interviewed me. 
>>
>> "Kid, have you rehabilitated?"
>>
>> I said, here it comes : 
>>
>>  "I don't know the code, yet"  
>>
>> 
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Table problem

[David Gifford]

I moved to HTML tables recently so that I can apply classes (in my case 
background colors) to rows and to individual cells, something that can't be 
done with TW tables.

On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 9:02:35 AM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> They also go funny if you do not have the correct number in each row.
>
> I have started using html table definitions in tiddlywiki which work well 
> and suits my structured thinking.
>
> Tony
>
>

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[tw] Re: Grouping Terminology in Links

[PMario]

On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 10:15:38 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> It sounds like you need PMario's uni-link plugin for aliases. He's even 
> got a video here:
>

As Mark points out https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/ may be an 
option. 

Not 100% what you describe, but imo worth a try. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: Work on Spaced Repetition System

[Diego Mesa]

Thanks Kirshaan,

Thats the plan! For right now Im sitll testing it, but I hope to release it 
as a plugin soon. 

Best,
Diego

On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:33:31 PM UTC-6, Krishaan Khubchand wrote:
>
> It looks really cool man, is there any way to use the spaced repetition 
> system as a plugin? 
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 12:00:56 AM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I've put together a small demo of my current progress here:
>>
>> http://anwiki.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> As always, any and all feedback is welcome. And I mean on *everything*, 
>> from the way I coded it up, to the way its structured, styled, etc. 
>> Anything!
>>
>> Best,
>> Diego
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Diego,
>>>
>>> Does sound a useful tool to put in tiddlywiki. I was interested in 
>>> building something similar for review and study times rather than at the 
>>> question level. Its more about scheduling study.
>>>
>>> Once such a question answer solution exists it seems to me the next 
>>> opportunity is how to populate it with questions. Imagin if you could dump 
>>> a translation dictionary on it. Alternativly manual question creation needs 
>>> to be quick and easy. Could questions even be created from marking up your 
>>> study notes?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: Grouping Terminology in Links

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

It sounds like you need PMario's uni-link plugin for aliases. He's even got 
a video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9l-vipAoNw=youtu.be

Good luck
-- Mark

On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 1:09:07 PM UTC-8, h0p3 wrote:
>
> Sometimes I spend time defining particular words in my wiki. I often link 
> to my definitions in my writing. I write at high speed, and when I'm in the 
> flow state, I don't have time to think about what the title of a 
> definition's tiddler is. I can't afford to be bothered by it because I will 
> lose track of what I'm trying to say. 
>
> How do I make sure all of these:
>
>- Maxim
>- maxim
>- Maxims
>- maxims
>
> ...are automatically pointing to (or redirecting to) "Maxim"?
>
> I truly hate doing this by tranclusions or going back to write 
> [[foobar|Maxim]] each time. Am I using the wiki incorrectly? Please, tell 
> me the idiomatic art of handling this problem (which I assume is common). 
> Is there a tool that can handle this? Please, let me know. Do I need to 
> build a tool for this? Please point me in the right direction. Also, feel 
> free to tell me to "suck it up" and just do it by hand.
>

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[tw] Grouping Terminology in Links

[h0p3]

Sometimes I spend time defining particular words in my wiki. I often link 
to my definitions in my writing. I write at high speed, and when I'm in the 
flow state, I don't have time to think about what the title of a 
definition's tiddler is. I can't afford to be bothered by it because I will 
lose track of what I'm trying to say. 

How do I make sure all of these:

   - Maxim
   - maxim
   - Maxims
   - maxims

...are automatically pointing to (or redirecting to) "Maxim"?

I truly hate doing this by tranclusions or going back to write 
[[foobar|Maxim]] each time. Am I using the wiki incorrectly? Please, tell 
me the idiomatic art of handling this problem (which I assume is common). 
Is there a tool that can handle this? Please, let me know. Do I need to 
build a tool for this? Please point me in the right direction. Also, feel 
free to tell me to "suck it up" and just do it by hand.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] MyMenus Plugin Released - is there anything it can't do?

['Surya' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Tony,

is it possible & how, to make the button of a menu smaller? I tried it in 
the $:/PSaT/MyMenus/stylesheet, but with no success at all... (for the 
"Jump"-menu shown in the topleftbar).

And I guess, that it is not possible at the moment, to build a menu, which 
is shown at the footer of tiddlers when in tiddler-edit-mode, is it? Could 
it be possible in the future, maybe?

Thanks for your great plugin :-)
Surya

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[tw] Re: it all started some months ago ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

 the carabinieri had fun humming Bob Dylan songs. They were old enough 
to understands humming in harmony. It felt almost like an organisation. We 
decided that it would be good to honour the carabinieri in some way that 
would be legal. Carl & Sasha created an allotment with a shed & secured 
seeded leeks and onions. Obi came in and sang an old Southern Song about 
some woman who lost her husband in a war that gave an aura of authenticity 
to the whole proceedings.

After drinking a while we were thinking: 
*Could this be a macro?*
On Friday, 9 February 2018 21:28:20 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> ... when we decided it could be a helpful gesture to carry it over the 
> conveyor belt as a step towards its destination. Back in the patrol car Obi 
> had some concerns that it wasn't quite what he was trained for. After a 
> while Obi understood we had a building already with pews and alters and 
> candles and worthy events that would keep a anxious person feeling okay. 
>
> There were all sorts of people on the bench. 
>
> Then the carabinieri came over and  interviewed me. 
>
> "Kid, have you rehabilitated?"
>
> I said, here it comes : 
>
>  "I don't know the code, yet"  
>
> 
>

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[tw] Re: Work on Spaced Repetition System

[Krishaan Khubchand]

It looks really cool man, is there any way to use the spaced repetition 
system as a plugin? 

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 12:00:56 AM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I've put together a small demo of my current progress here:
>
> http://anwiki.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> As always, any and all feedback is welcome. And I mean on *everything*, 
> from the way I coded it up, to the way its structured, styled, etc. 
> Anything!
>
> Best,
> Diego
>
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Diego,
>>
>> Does sound a useful tool to put in tiddlywiki. I was interested in 
>> building something similar for review and study times rather than at the 
>> question level. Its more about scheduling study.
>>
>> Once such a question answer solution exists it seems to me the next 
>> opportunity is how to populate it with questions. Imagin if you could dump 
>> a translation dictionary on it. Alternativly manual question creation needs 
>> to be quick and easy. Could questions even be created from marking up your 
>> study notes?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw] it all started some months ago ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

... when we decided it could be a helpful gesture to carry it over the 
conveyor belt as a step towards its destination. Back in the patrol car Obi 
had some concerns that it wasn't quite what he was trained for. After a 
while Obi understood we had a building already with pews and alters and 
candles and worthy events that would keep a anxious person feeling okay. 

There were all sorts of people on the bench. 

Then the carabinieri came over and  interviewed me. 

"Kid, have you rehabilitated?"

I said, here it comes : 

 "I don't know the code, yet"  



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[tw] Re: I cannot seem to get Inclusion working with Markdown plugin? (using the excise button)

[David Johnston]

Hmm that should have been "Transclusion" working with Markdown

On Friday, 9 February 2018 13:46:31 UTC, David Johnston wrote:
>
> I cannot seem to get Inclusion working with the Markdown plugin? (using 
> the excise button)
>
> Is this behaving as expected?
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: how can I use tiddlywiki5 on tiddlyspot?!

[Krishaan Khubchand]

Diego, the instructions were amazing -- Thanks a ton, everything ended up 
working really well - have an awesome weekend :D

On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 6:03:06 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Krishaan,
>
> I was in exactly this same boat. This is what I did.
>
>
>1. Go to tiddlyspot.com and make a new site ID. This will be your url 
>so choose it well. For example if you site ID is testingsite, you wiki 
> will 
>be at testingsite.tiddlyspot.com
>2. Download an empty from tiddlywiki.com
>3. From the chrome browser (it didnt work for me in FF), open the 
>empty and from the control panel go to:
>- A: Go to Saving-->General and select: DO NOT Save changes 
>   automatically
>   - B: Go to Saving-->TiddlySpot Saver and put in your siteID and 
>   tiddlyspot password
>   4. Click the save button on the wiki 
>
> This should upload this empty tw5 to your tiddlyspot. Once its on 
> tiddlyspot, I just:
>
>1. opened my tiddlyspot url from chrome 
>2. Go to Saving-->TiddlySpot Saver and put in your siteID and 
>tiddlyspot password
>3. Dragged my local wiki with the content I want to be on tiddlyspot 
>ONTO the tiddlyspot wiki to import it.
>4. Clicked save on my tiddlyspot wiki 
>
> And voilà! There it was.
>
>
> I know it should be simpler, and it probably is. But I spent 20 min trying 
> to get it to work the other day, and these are the only steps that worked 
> for me.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Diego
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 9:39:19 AM UTC-6, Krishaan Khubchand 
> wrote:
>>
>> I've been trying to figure this out for 2 days and I haven't got a clue. 
>> The instructions on the FAQ make no sense, nor does 
>> tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com -- Can someone please give me a layman set of 
>> instructions?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: How-to?: Make a button in the sidebar for multiple action-possibilities (like the "more actions")

['Surya' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Tony,

I had a look at it, and it seems to be very interesting :-))

I thought before, your plugin would increase the wiki a lot, but it is not 
so much :-)

I will try it- Thanks!
Surya

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[tw] Re: How-To?: Search/Filter by multiple Tags with checkboxes or buttons for tags /taggroups

['Surya' via TiddlyWiki]

Hiho Mark,

it works :-)))
strangely & unfortunately not on my test-wiki anymore. But on one of my 
private wikis (so it should work on all my private wikis, I think & hope) 
and on my other wiki on tiddlyspot.

So, the both main features are working.
Now coming to the fine tuning :-) Should I list all fine tuning wishes at 
once? Or one after the other?

Well, I'll write now all (because I guess, that some wishes depend on other 
wishes for writing the command). The numbered list is the first priority, 
then the rest comes :-)

   1. Because of the Plugin $:/plugins/eucaly/popuptagger it shows in the 
   TableOfContents in the "Search made by Mark" the tiddler 
$:/temp/pptg-taggroup 
   as a child-tag of every parent-tag. How can I hide that tiddler from the 
   TableOfContents in the "Search made by Mark"?
   2. In the TableOfContents in the "Search made by Mark" there are also 
   the tiddlers listed, which have the listed tags (for example in the 
   test-wiki the New Tiddler 1, New Tiddler 2, and so on... How can I hide 
   them from the TableOfContents in the "Search made by Mark"?
   3. I would like to have the checkboxes directly next to the listed tags (for 
   example in the test-wiki the checkbox for "A" next to "A"). In that way I 
   would have to do one click-action less. And also I could see much faster, 
   which tags I have checked / not checked. Because, when I would click on the 
   arrow of a parent-tag I could see ALL child-tags of their parent-tag WITH 
   their checkboxes at once.
  - It wouldn't matter to me, if ALL the child-tags WITH their 
  checkboxes are inside the TableOfContents or in the white space on the 
  right side of the TableOfContents.
   4. I'd like to have the checked tags shown between the "Additional 
   criteria"-Search-Field and the list of found tiddlers. For to know "By 
   which tags did I do the filtering?" With the information "These tags you 
   have chosen" (or similar) before it.
   

   - If I added a tag to search-by, I'd like to be able to remove that tag 
   very easy & fast- like in $:/plugins/danielo/tagSearch. There the added 
   tags are shown as the tagpills with their x in it.
   - Before the list of results it should be shown, how many tiddlers are 
   found.
   - The "Additional criteria"-Search-Field: At the moment it is like this:
  - When a write in "an", it lists the tiddlers with "an" somewhere in 
  the title.
  - When I write in that search field "An", then it lists the tiddlers 
  beginning with "An".
 - So it seems, that this filter is sensitive for capital & 
 non-capital letters. It would be nice, if it would dosen't matter, if 
I 
 write "an" or "An"- it should list in both ways the tiddlers 
 beginning with "An" and "an".
 - And finally there should be a button with "Open all found 
   tiddlers".

I hope, that I don't want to much from you ;-)
Thanks a lot lot lot. Surya

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[tw] Re: Formula 0.2: Functional computing & spreadsheet formulas for TiddlyWiki

[Evan Balster]

Hey, Diego —

Pardon the slow reply.  I've been pretty busy with Real Work since my 
convention trip.  I expect to do some more work on formulas this weekend 
and will be tracking down the issue.

In the future, please file an issue on the plugin's GitHub 
 if possible!  
Makes this stuff easier to keep track of.

On Tuesday, 6 February 2018 15:30:19 UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Evan,
>
> Sorry if Im missing something, but is
>
> now() and date(12,12,12)
>
> not working?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 2:09:26 AM UTC-6, Evan Balster wrote:
>>
>> Hey, Tony —
>>
>> The tw_date function should do what you want:  It manually turns other 
>> things into dates, bypassing the normal "interpretation" mechanism.  It 
>> will accept MMDD dates with each subsequent part being optional.  It 
>> might not work on data that have been interpreted as numbers, which can 
>> happen with {{transclude}} syntax...  To avoid the interpretation, you can 
>> use the "transclude" or "variable" functions to fetch raw, uninterpreted 
>> text:
>>
>> ... tw_date(transclude("tiddler", "field")) ...
>>
>> Basically the idea is that all automatic conversion can be bypassed or 
>> done manually.
>>
>> The "fall-back" behaviors you're describing would best be implemented 
>> with the "iferror" function, which formula doesn't implement yet.  Other 
>> than that I advise using some string-related functions to figure out what 
>> kind of data you're dealing with.  For example, 
>> len(trim(x))==0
>> tells you if some data is blank (ie, only whitespace or nothing at all).
>>
>> I might have to investigate the interoperation problems between formula 
>> and condition.
>>
>> On Saturday, 3 February 2018 21:35:13 UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Evan,
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your work.
>>>
>>> To the point : *So I suppose I am asking, "can the treatment of empty 
>>> or blank date fields be restored?", or could you "tell me a way to treat 
>>> such fields to avoid the errors?"*
>>>
>>> I will return to blank dates shortly.
>>>
>>> *Date Format*
>>> First, removing the trailing "00" or using 000 does indeed let a date 
>>> display correctly THANKYOU
>>> I was erroneously setting dates to one digit short
>>> <$action-setfield $field=date-field $value=<>> 0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss000>> $timestamp=no />
>>> Previously however this was tolerated. As was a date field with only the 
>>> date 0MM0DD and other combinations (I have not retested)
>>>
>>> *Blank dates*
>>>
>>> This behaviour has changed, I am now getting these errors below when 
>>> previously use of date fields that had empty or a single space in the date 
>>> field were tolerated and no result was returned,
>>>
>>> ComputeError: Cannot auto-convert "" to a date!
>>> ComputeError: Cannot auto-convert " " to a date!
>>>
>>> I was using the existence of a date-field to trigger the display, time 
>>> stamp or edit of that and other fields
>>>
>>>
>>>- For example if item-started existed it allows you to "select, 
>>>enter or time stamp the date"  item-started
>>>- Basically the existence of item-started indicates the tiddler is 
>>>now under disposition management (regardless of its value or not)
>>>- It also provides the ability to optionally provide a 
>>>item-completed or item-cancelled dates
>>>- If I accidentally cancelled the item and cleared the 
>>>item-cancelled date, to instead set the completed date, I would have a 
>>>blank cancelled date field.
>>>
>>> *Why permit " " dates*
>>> If I am using the existence of a date field empty or otherwise I use a 
>>> filter that includes has[fieldname]
>>> Of note was that this has[fieldname] filter often seemed only to work 
>>> when the field existed and was not empty, hence the use of " "
>>>
>>> On example of where formulas was tolerant of blank and space was in the 
>>> following, which calculates the number of days between the date-fields 
>>> value and today.
>>>
>>> \define daystoday(datefield)
>>> (= days( now(), date( {{!!$datefield$}} ) ) =)
>>> \end
>>>
>>>
>>> Other examples, It is fine for these to return nothing
>>>
>>> (= if(tw_date({{!!$datefield$}})=now(),"Today","Not Today") =)
>>>
>>>
>>> \define showtodayrange(datefield1,datefield2)
>>> > 
>>> max=<>> ))">>/> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>>
>>> <$if value=(={{!!$datefield$}}=)>
>>>  Has value (=date({{!!$datefield$}})=)
>>>  <$set name=indate value= (=date({{!!$datefield$}})=)>
>>>  
>>> <$else>
>>>  No Value (={{!!$datefield$}}=)
>>>  <$set name=indate value=(=now()=)>
>>> 
>>>
>>> The above also seems broken, using The *Condition* plugin for TiddlyWiki, 
>>> version 0.1.0 (disabled or not)
>>>
>>>
>>> *So I suppose I am asking, "can the treatment of empty or blank date fields 
>>> be restored?", or could you "tell me a way to treat such fields to avoid 
>>> the errors?"*
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 12:54:42 PM 

[tw] Re: Search duplicate caption-fields

[TonyM]

Why not have a list of all captions wrapping a list of all Tiddlers that have 
the same caption. Most may have one tiddler with each caption but you can make 
it obviouse for captions who have more than one toddler.

Has[caption]

List all Tiddlers with each caption.

Tony

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[tw] Re: Table problem

[TonyM]

They also go funny if you do not have the correct number in each row.

I have started using html table definitions in tiddlywiki which work well and 
suits my structured thinking.

Tony

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[tw] Re: Removing an index and its value from a dictionary tiddler

[hubertgk]

It works! :) Thank you.

On Friday, 9 February 2018 14:45:29 UTC, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> hello @hubertgk,
>
> try <$action-setfield $tiddler="_data000" $index="film_frame_hh"/>
>
> hope it works
> BTC
>
> Am Freitag, 9. Februar 2018 15:41:32 UTC+1 schrieb hubertgk:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So far, I've only been able to clear a value from the below index, such 
>> as below:
>>
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="_data000" $index="film_frame_hh" $value=""/>
>>
>> What I want to achieve is remove the index "film_frame_hh" altogether 
>> (along with its value, of course). Is there a way to do that? 
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Point me to the entry system and i will be your slave.
>

When there is one I'll post it here, thanks for your help!

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Point me to the entry system and i will be your slave.

On Friday, 9 February 2018 15:30:17 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> @TiddlyTweeter:

 BTC

 At level of DESIGN-for-purpose I have two responses... I'm talking here 
 about basic keyboard LANGUAGE issues. 

 1 - for DESKTOP users with real keyboards *Minimalist Sets of Variant 
 Accents* (ONE line) would be very useful ... In THIS case the user has 
 a bar of the minimal variants of a language *that work alongside the 
 keyboard*. They don't need a full keyboard on-screen as they already 
 have one. The example I gave before explains it better than words ...



>>> But if your name is BTC and you're on linux with a convertible laptop 
>>> and not many onscreen keyboards to choose from, you'll want this on 
>>> desktop, too ;)
>>>
>>
>> *Let a THOUSAND layouts bloom.*
>>
>> J. 
>>
>
> They will.
>
> *To J. : Let some language sets bloom* 
>

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[tw] Re: Removing an index and its value from a dictionary tiddler

[BurningTreeC]

hello @hubertgk,

try <$action-setfield $tiddler="_data000" $index="film_frame_hh"/>

hope it works
BTC

Am Freitag, 9. Februar 2018 15:41:32 UTC+1 schrieb hubertgk:
>
> Hi all,
>
> So far, I've only been able to clear a value from the below index, such as 
> below:
>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="_data000" $index="film_frame_hh" $value=""/>
>
> What I want to achieve is remove the index "film_frame_hh" altogether 
> (along with its value, of course). Is there a way to do that? 
>
> Thank you.
>

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[tw] Removing an index and its value from a dictionary tiddler

[hubertgk]

Hi all,

So far, I've only been able to clear a value from the below index, such as 
below:

<$action-setfield $tiddler="_data000" $index="film_frame_hh" $value=""/>

What I want to achieve is remove the index "film_frame_hh" altogether 
(along with its value, of course). Is there a way to do that? 

Thank you.

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[BurningTreeC]

>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>
>> @TiddlyTweeter:
>>>
>>> BTC
>>>
>>> At level of DESIGN-for-purpose I have two responses... I'm talking here 
>>> about basic keyboard LANGUAGE issues. 
>>>
>>> 1 - for DESKTOP users with real keyboards *Minimalist Sets of Variant 
>>> Accents* (ONE line) would be very useful ... In THIS case the user has 
>>> a bar of the minimal variants of a language *that work alongside the 
>>> keyboard*. They don't need a full keyboard on-screen as they already 
>>> have one. The example I gave before explains it better than words ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> But if your name is BTC and you're on linux with a convertible laptop and 
>> not many onscreen keyboards to choose from, you'll want this on desktop, 
>> too ;)
>>
>
> *Let a THOUSAND layouts bloom.*
>
> J. 
>

They will.

*To J. : Let some language sets bloom* 

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[tw] I cannot seem to get Inclusion working with Markdown plugin? (using the excise button)

[David Johnston]

I cannot seem to get Inclusion working with the Markdown plugin? (using the 
excise button)

Is this behaving as expected?


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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[@TiddlyTweeter]

BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>
> @TiddlyTweeter:
>>
>> BTC
>>
>> At level of DESIGN-for-purpose I have two responses... I'm talking here 
>> about basic keyboard LANGUAGE issues. 
>>
>> 1 - for DESKTOP users with real keyboards *Minimalist Sets of Variant 
>> Accents* (ONE line) would be very useful ... In THIS case the user has a 
>> bar of the minimal variants of a language *that work alongside the 
>> keyboard*. They don't need a full keyboard on-screen as they already 
>> have one. The example I gave before explains it better than words ...
>>
>>
>>
> But if your name is BTC and you're on linux with a convertible laptop and 
> not many onscreen keyboards to choose from, you'll want this on desktop, 
> too ;)
>

*Let a THOUSAND layouts bloom.*

J. 

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[tw] Re: Table problem

[David Gifford]

Anything before or after the | | | |, even a space, it will break the 
table. And if you have anything non-tabley (text, html tags, etc), that 
will also break the table. 

Tables rows need to begin and end with |

And tables need to have an empty line before and after.



On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 6:11:11 AM UTC-6, paulda...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Have a real frustrating table problem.
>
> I make a table of data using | | | |
> The table appears fine.
> Then when I edit it with | | | | the whole table format disappears so I 
> end up with lines of text that are not in a table but have | | | | between 
> them (like this sentence).
>
> Whats happening?
> How can I make tables without them screwing up please?
>
> :(
>

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao BTC

2 - for SMART-PHONE users living in virtual reality a full-keyboard would 
>> be the way. But in this case you'd need a reason to replace the default 
>> keyboard that's adding something new. It looks complex to do that. I'll 
>> comment separately on that issue. 
>>
>
For smartphones I just can't use the built-in keyboards for editing 
> tiddlers. Or the screen gets resized so that you cannot see the tiddler 
> anymore or you need to click and adjust the keyboard just to insert some 
> characters in a comfy way.
>

I totally agree. The idea smart-phones are smart was invented by a 
marketing department. They are awful to use to CREATE from. They are best 
for clicking boxes. 

IMO you are on a Big Fight to bring sensibility to Android keyboarding.

J, x 

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[BurningTreeC]

Am Freitag, 9. Februar 2018 13:51:53 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> Ciao BTC
>
> I looked at a bunch of discussions on "how to switch off/replace the 
> default keyboard" on Android. There is a LOT of useful discussion of that.
>
> Most of it is beyond me to understand.
>
> My crude understanding is ...
>
> 1 - It can be done
> 2 - Its done via identifying/specifying the app. and providing alternative 
> run options for the app.
> 3 - That's as problem if we talking TW within a browser as the browser IS 
> the app.
>
> I may be completely wrong as my grasp of this as I am Caveman --.
>
> The one thing that is clear is you need is to ask this question on 
> Android, not here. 
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

yes, it can be done - I've investigated it, too. but as you say this is not 
the forum to discuss this and it's a user decision.

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao BTC

I looked at a bunch of discussions on "how to switch off/replace the 
default keyboard" on Android. There is a LOT of useful discussion of that.

Most of it is beyond me to understand.

My crude understanding is ...

1 - It can be done
2 - Its done via identifying/specifying the app. and providing alternative 
run options for the app.
3 - That's as problem if we talking TW within a browser as the browser IS 
the app.

I may be completely wrong as my grasp of this as I am Caveman --.

The one thing that is clear is you need is to ask this question on Android, 
not here. 

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[BurningTreeC]

Am Freitag, 9. Februar 2018 13:15:12 UTC+1 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> BTC
>
> At level of DESIGN-for-purpose I have two responses... I'm talking here 
> about basic keyboard LANGUAGE issues. 
>
> 1 - for DESKTOP users with real keyboards *Minimalist Sets of Variant 
> Accents* (ONE line) would be very useful ... In THIS case the user has a 
> bar of the minimal variants of a language *that work alongside the 
> keyboard*. They don't need a full keyboard on-screen as they already have 
> one. The example I gave before explains it better than words ...
>
>
>
But if your name is BTC and you're on linux with a convertible laptop and 
not many onscreen keyboards to choose from, you'll want this on desktop, 
too ;)

>
> 2 - for SMART-PHONE users living in virtual reality a full-keyboard would 
> be the way. But in this case you'd need a reason to replace the default 
> keyboard that's adding something new. It looks complex to do that. I'll 
> comment separately on that issue. 
>
> For smartphones I just can't use the built-in keyboards for editing 
tiddlers. Or the screen gets resized so that you cannot see the tiddler 
anymore or you need to click and adjust the keyboard just to insert some 
characters in a comfy way.
 

> 3 - IF the architecture allows it (looking at the config file and it looks 
> very easy, in principle) then it would be a doddle (very easy) to create 
> many variants. 
>
 
>

> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Do you have ideas for how such a keyboard scheme should look like for you?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[@TiddlyTweeter]

FYI, Unicode support in modern browsers (i.e. font rendering) is far better 
than most users realise. We have a VAST library of characters and symbols a 
Unicode away.

On Friday, 9 February 2018 12:57:18 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @TiddlyTweeter,
>
> I'd be very happy to create some language sets. That I would know how to 
>> do.
>>
>
> that's great! Do you have ideas for how such a keyboard scheme should look 
> like for you?
>
> the currently used scheme is just a fast thing, I'd like to establish a 
> scheme but I haven't had time to think about it
>
> your proposals are welcome!
>
> *UNICODE sets*
>>
>> Could be interesting, for instance (in combination with using online 
>> fonts where needed), to have a Unicode "keyboard" set for the hexagram 
>> block (http://jrgraphix.net/r/Unicode/4DC0-4DFF) or dingbats (
>> http://jrgraphix.net/r/Unicode/2700-27BF) 
>>
>
> I don't know much about these sets, but should be easy to implement by 
> users if we have a scheme - maybe with a scheme editor accessible from 
> within the keyboard under "keyboard settings"
>
> BTC 
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[@TiddlyTweeter]

BTC

At level of DESIGN-for-purpose I have two responses... I'm talking here 
about basic keyboard LANGUAGE issues. 

1 - for DESKTOP users with real keyboards *Minimalist Sets of Variant 
Accents* (ONE line) would be very useful ... In THIS case the user has a 
bar of the minimal variants of a language *that work alongside the keyboard*. 
They don't need a full keyboard on-screen as they already have one. The 
example I gave before explains it better than words ...



2 - for SMART-PHONE users living in virtual reality a full-keyboard would 
be the way. But in this case you'd need a reason to replace the default 
keyboard that's adding something new. It looks complex to do that. I'll 
comment separately on that issue. 

3 - IF the architecture allows it (looking at the config file and it looks 
very easy, in principle) then it would be very be a doddle to create many 
variants. 

Best wishes
Josiah


BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Do you have ideas for how such a keyboard scheme should look like for you?
>

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[tw] Table problem

[pauldalley22]

Hi all,

Have a real frustrating table problem.

I make a table of data using | | | |
The table appears fine.
Then when I edit it with | | | | the whole table format disappears so I end 
up with lines of text that are not in a table but have | | | | between them 
(like this sentence).

Whats happening?
How can I make tables without them screwing up please?

:(

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

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@TiddlyTweeter,

I'd be very happy to create some language sets. That I would know how to do.
>

that's great! Do you have ideas for how such a keyboard scheme should look 
like for you?

the currently used scheme is just a fast thing, I'd like to establish a 
scheme but I haven't had time to think about it

your proposals are welcome!

*UNICODE sets*
>
> Could be interesting, for instance (in combination with using online fonts 
> where needed), to have a Unicode "keyboard" set for the hexagram block (
> http://jrgraphix.net/r/Unicode/4DC0-4DFF) or dingbats (
> http://jrgraphix.net/r/Unicode/2700-27BF) 
>

I don't know much about these sets, but should be easy to implement by 
users if we have a scheme - maybe with a scheme editor accessible from 
within the keyboard under "keyboard settings"

BTC 


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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[@TiddlyTweeter]

BTC

More ideas ...

*UNICODE sets*

Could be interesting, for instance (in combination with using online fonts 
where needed), to have a Unicode "keyboard" set for the hexagram block 
(http://jrgraphix.net/r/Unicode/4DC0-4DFF) or dingbats 
(http://jrgraphix.net/r/Unicode/2700-27BF) 

Best wishes
Josiah

BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> I was already thinking about an emoji button to switch to emoji selection
>
> greek characters
> special characters
> <$button> snippets (and more for all standard tw widgets)
>
> more ideas welcome
>

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

[BurningTreeC]

@TiddlyTweeter,

that's great! Do you have ideas for how such a keyboard scheme should look 
like for you?

the currently used scheme is just a fast thing, I'd like to establish a 
scheme but I haven't had time to think about it

your proposals are welcome!

BTC

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[tw] Re: [Proof of concept] Tiddly Onscreen Keyboard

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Ciao BTC

IF this things develops so you can create "sets" of characters/i.e. 
multiple available "keyboards", each with their own config, I'd be very 
happy to create some language sets. That I would know how to do.

Best wishes
Josiah

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