date:20191216

I just added it to Chrome and track tiddlywiki.com/prerelease

So, I will be notified when and how Jeremy changes it :-)

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[tw5] Re: Fraidycat, an interesting social aggregator

Hi Richard,
 Thanks for sharing!
It is really wonderful specially tracking Tiddlywikis

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Tony!

Why none of these are listed on tiddlywiki.com?
It is a pity these amount of efforts were just buried in the forum!

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 8:23:29 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> In fact the twexe could guide the choice, install use and linking of any 
> file saver or server config it documents.
>
> Twexe can be the means not the end solution.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Hi Tony!
Recently you have made a query on saving wiki folder and single file wiki!
It worth for future use to publish the result of this query!

It seems Tiddlywiki has got many solutions to overcome the saving barrier.

--Mohammad

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>
> In fact the twexe could guide the choice, install use and linking of any 
> file saver or server config it documents.
>
> Twexe can be the means not the end solution.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

In fact the twexe could guide the choice, install use and linking of any file 
saver or server config it documents.

Twexe can be the means not the end solution.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Folks

Like other simple install and config tw server solutions there is room to 
develop an install script even a setup and config process. You could generate a 
config file for the webdav solution for private or lan use, We can do this 
easily if tiddlywiki has full local file access, but then if you are setting up 
a server to access your tiddlywiki you possibly do not have this. We seem slow 
close yet so far.

This makes me ask if the recently revisited twexe could have an embedded wiki 
that helps manage the installation and configuration of this webdav server, 
perhaps even launch it. You could even test if its the static ip address your 
lan issues and if not launch a local only config for the coffee shop.

The idea would be you install an os specific twexe which can guide the setup 
and options of the webdav including provide an index to wikis created and saved 
in the webdav folders. Access to online editions etc

If we can hand hold the whole way and design a smart wiki with design Choices 
config s etc we can add to over time with lessons learned we could make tiddly 
wiki adoption much easier.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

TT

Your use is fine if these are only used in non system tiddlers and my reply 
related to when someone wanted them to be tags, I thought they would be better 
in a custom list field than tags and searchable. The gentags plugin would allow 
them to be used in filters other than search as well.

Regards
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[tw5] Fraidycat, an interesting social aggregator

2019-12-16 Thread RichardWilliamSmith

Hi all,

I just came across this fascinating project on hacker 
news, https://fraidyc.at. I'm no longer a regular here so you might already 
know about it, apologies if that is the case.

It's a browser extension that tracks updates from multiple social feeds and 
integrates them in a 'calm' dashboard. I bring it to your attention because 
it purports to also track changes in live tiddlywikis. Very cool! If you 
watch the intro video, you will see a couple of wikis shown. Always fun to 
see tw out in the wild, still waiting for the day everyone realises what 
they're missing.

Regards and Seasons Greetings,
Richard

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

Just to make CLEAR the cases I am referring to are simply stuff like ...

Nestlé cannot claim #bottledwater is 'essential public service', court 
> rules 

 

Michigan’s second-highest court rules in favor of township in case that 
> could damage company’s effort to privatize water http://ow.ly/FTRJ30pZFYM 
> 


In TW in text "*#bottledwater*" is fine in-text. Perfect to find. No need 
for tags.

It is a relaxed easy case already.

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

TonyM wrote:
>
> I would prefer to have such hash tags added to a custom list field on the 
> tiddler it was found in. 


Which hashtags do you mean? I'm unclear here cara what you mean!!

FYI I like #hashtags for my purposes in TEXT.

No need for more. They do the job . Done.

The point is simplicity, I think.

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

I would prefer to have such hash tags added to a custom list field on the 
tiddler it was found in. Adding it to tags not only potentially overuse tags 
but looses information unless you keep the leading #

I recently suggested such a field called keywords which is added to the default 
search mechanisium however unlike the default it also searches system tiddlers, 
also searching and returning the caption on the system tiddler if available.

This idea would in addition to globalizing keywords would allow system tiddlers 
like the tag manager to publish a user friendly name without the system prefix 
that users can locate with a standard search. Sometimes we do not want to hide 
a system tiddler.

I think you may use an independent hash-tags field in a similar manner to my 
proposed keywords field only that on tiddler save #word gets saved as word in 
the hash-tags field.

regards
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[tw5] Re: Easily open excised (included) tiddler?

I thought I posted a reply on this but its not here.

Marks method can be extended a number of ways. Duplicating and editing the 
excise button related tiddlers to use the alternate transclusion.

Add-in a global settings with a local override that either displays a link, the 
title of the transclusion tiddler, the transclusion, edit, copy buttons or a 
combination there of, sould help improve excising workflow.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

I suspect its because I use a taboo combination: Bob + Syncthing and 
sometimes Bob and Syncthing clash and alter some of my tiddlers.

"If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room" ;)

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Hi Mark,
for me it works fine!

-tiddler modification date is correct
-wiki.html modification date is correct

Server had several starts and shutdowns!
(Windows 10, Edge Chromium 80, FF 71)

--Mohammad

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 11:34:21 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> On at least some WebDav installations, the modification date of the file 
> is not maintained in Windows. This makes synchronization somewhat 
> unreliable. 
>
> I'm curious, if you're running Windows, whether the modification date is 
> being set correctly after changes.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 8:46:47 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Joost!
>> Based on your answer, I used a wiki for landing page!
>> So, I many create a tiddler to add wiki links from my working folder like 
>> this. Assuming I use 127.0.005:8080 as server address! as below
>>
>>
>> Tiddler
>> Title: Wiki links
>> Text: as below
>> <$list filter="[enlist{!!wikis}addprefix[
>> http://127.0.0.5:8080/]addsuffix[.html]];>
>> > target=_blank><$view tiddler=<
>> > field=title/>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 8:03:37 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 5:24:43 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:



 On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:39 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>
>
> - Linking from a landing page works, if that is what you mean ;-)
>

 I mean when you open localhost:8080 in browser have a landing page to 
 select a
 link to open a wiki. Right now I have to type each wiki in address bar 
 like http://localhost:8080/test.html

>>>
>>> If you make a landing page with the right links will work, but there 
>>> isn't a feature that will do that for you. The software doesn't has a 
>>> feature for showing a directory structure with all relevant files as well 
>>> (the Mac software I mentioned above do has that feature btw).
>>>  
>>>
  

> - I use Syncthing with file versioning enabled for my wiki's (apart 
> from my regular backup software).
>
 Here I mean something like Timimi to be able to save and backup!

>>>
>>> I somehow did understand what you meant :-) but this is my current 
>>> setup. I didn't test any scripts/plugins/tools for that purpose.. sorry ;-)
>>>
  

>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:36:50 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Joost,
>>  Is it possible to have a landing page?
>>
>> Also what do you think for making backup when saving over webdav?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:03:19 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You can use it on an USB stick too. You can set a fixed address as 
>>> well, but you need to set a predefined port in the config file for that 
>>> to 
>>> work properly, otherwise the software picks a random one (the example 
>>> has 
>>> this already covered)
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Joost
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter 
>>> wrote:

 Could you use this approach Portably? 
 What I mean is, does this system require you install something on 
 the PC at a fixed address? 
 Or could you install it on a usb-stick too?

 Just wondering
 Josiah

 On Monday, 16 December 2019 10:12:07 UTC+1, Joost wrote:
>
>
> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy 
> saving with a small system footprint and storage.
>
> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one 
> for my Windows devices. Both are free and have security features 
> build in 
> for access.
>
> 1. Windows
>
> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>
> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration 
> file called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>
> scope: .
> modify: true
> address: 0.0.0.0
> port: 8080
> tls: false
> cert: cert.pem
> key: key.pem
> users:
>   - username: admin
> password: admin
>
> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the 
> test)
> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login 
> with "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your 
> configuration file).
>
> 2. Mac
>
> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is 
> very easy to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>
>
> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never 
> had any problems.
>

[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Hi Mohammad,

On at least some WebDav installations, the modification date of the file is 
not maintained in Windows. This makes synchronization somewhat unreliable. 

I'm curious, if you're running Windows, whether the modification date is 
being set correctly after changes.

Thanks!


On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 8:46:47 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks Joost!
> Based on your answer, I used a wiki for landing page!
> So, I many create a tiddler to add wiki links from my working folder like 
> this. Assuming I use 127.0.005:8080 as server address! as below
>
>
> Tiddler
> Title: Wiki links
> Text: as below
> <$list filter="[enlist{!!wikis}addprefix[
> http://127.0.0.5:8080/]addsuffix[.html]];>
> > target=_blank><$view tiddler=<
> > field=title/>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 8:03:37 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 5:24:43 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:39 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:


 - Linking from a landing page works, if that is what you mean ;-)

>>>
>>> I mean when you open localhost:8080 in browser have a landing page to 
>>> select a
>>> link to open a wiki. Right now I have to type each wiki in address bar 
>>> like http://localhost:8080/test.html
>>>
>>
>> If you make a landing page with the right links will work, but there 
>> isn't a feature that will do that for you. The software doesn't has a 
>> feature for showing a directory structure with all relevant files as well 
>> (the Mac software I mentioned above do has that feature btw).
>>  
>>
>>>  
>>>
 - I use Syncthing with file versioning enabled for my wiki's (apart 
 from my regular backup software).

>>> Here I mean something like Timimi to be able to save and backup!
>>>
>>
>> I somehow did understand what you meant :-) but this is my current setup. 
>> I didn't test any scripts/plugins/tools for that purpose.. sorry ;-)
>>
>>>  
>>>

 On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:36:50 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Joost,
>  Is it possible to have a landing page?
>
> Also what do you think for making backup when saving over webdav?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:03:19 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>>
>>
>> You can use it on an USB stick too. You can set a fixed address as 
>> well, but you need to set a predefined port in the config file for that 
>> to 
>> work properly, otherwise the software picks a random one (the example 
>> has 
>> this already covered)
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Joost
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Could you use this approach Portably? 
>>> What I mean is, does this system require you install something on 
>>> the PC at a fixed address? 
>>> Or could you install it on a usb-stick too?
>>>
>>> Just wondering
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>> On Monday, 16 December 2019 10:12:07 UTC+1, Joost wrote:


 I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy 
 saving with a small system footprint and storage.

 I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one 
 for my Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build 
 in 
 for access.

 1. Windows

 Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/

 See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration 
 file called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:

 scope: .
 modify: true
 address: 0.0.0.0
 port: 8080
 tls: false
 cert: cert.pem
 key: key.pem
 users:
   - username: admin
 password: admin

 Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the 
 test)
 Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
 http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
 "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your 
 configuration 
 file).

 2. Mac

 Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is 
 very easy to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.


 I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never 
 had any problems.

 Best regards,

 Joost




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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Added to toolmap 
 
under "Saving Tools"

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 1:12:07 AM UTC-8, Joost wrote:
>
>
> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy saving 
> with a small system footprint and storage.
>
> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for my 
> Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in for 
> access.
>
> 1. Windows
>
> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>
> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration file 
> called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>
> scope: .
> modify: true
> address: 0.0.0.0
> port: 8080
> tls: false
> cert: cert.pem
> key: key.pem
> users:
>   - username: admin
> password: admin
>
> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your configuration 
> file).
>
> 2. Mac
>
> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very easy 
> to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>
>
> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never had any 
> problems.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joost
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

Ciao Mark

That is it. TX! I feel ashamed as I actually use it but forgot her origin.

TT

On Monday, 16 December 2019 19:42:41 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> From the toolmap : 
>
>
>
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/pluginsandmacros/hashtag2tag.html#Hashtag2tag
>  
> 
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:12:51 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> A long time ago Riz made me a tool to convert inline hashtags into TW 
>> tags. Let me see if I can find it.
>>
>> On Monday, 16 December 2019 19:02:44 UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>>
>>> On hastags:
>>> Ive always thought it would be really helpful to make use of the "On 
>>> Save" action of tiddlers to employ a hashtag mechanism. If its enabled, 
>>> when a user saves a tiddler the contents are scanned for hashtags and added 
>>> as tags (according to pre-specified well defined rules, just like tiddler 
>>> tittles). Also, any hashtags currently in the tag field that are not 
>>> present in the text, can also be removed (this could be another option to 
>>> enable this). 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:27:12 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 Ciao Eric

 Totally agree. The point I was getting at was that it is often not 
 necessary to proliferate tags to IDENTIFY a Tiddler's scope through a 
 #hashtag.

 And that was my point. The very power of Tags in TW is superb -- when 
 you need that -- in 90% of my cases I don't. A simple literal #hashtag 
 will 
 do the job!

 Best wishes
 TT


 On Monday, 16 December 2019 17:18:00 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> *   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*
>> For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add 
>> hashtags to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director
>> Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they 
>> were TW tags.
>>
>
> But... you can do things with tags other than "searching"... like:
>
> 1) generating lists using filter="[tag[foo]]"
> 2) navigating to tag-related items by using a tag pill
> 3) customize the ViewTemplate with conditional elements based on tags
>
> Sure, you *could* do (1), and maybe (3) using 
> filter="[search:text[#foo]]", but is that the best approach?
>
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

The only lingering question is whether there was a reason for that tiddler 
to have been altered ;-)

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:13:08 AM UTC-8, Dave wrote:
>
> I'd mark this "Complete" but I don't see how to do that
>

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

>From the toolmap : 

https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/pluginsandmacros/hashtag2tag.html#Hashtag2tag

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:12:51 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> A long time ago Riz made me a tool to convert inline hashtags into TW 
> tags. Let me see if I can find it.
>
> On Monday, 16 December 2019 19:02:44 UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> On hastags:
>> Ive always thought it would be really helpful to make use of the "On 
>> Save" action of tiddlers to employ a hashtag mechanism. If its enabled, 
>> when a user saves a tiddler the contents are scanned for hashtags and added 
>> as tags (according to pre-specified well defined rules, just like tiddler 
>> tittles). Also, any hashtags currently in the tag field that are not 
>> present in the text, can also be removed (this could be another option to 
>> enable this). 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:27:12 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciao Eric
>>>
>>> Totally agree. The point I was getting at was that it is often not 
>>> necessary to proliferate tags to IDENTIFY a Tiddler's scope through a 
>>> #hashtag.
>>>
>>> And that was my point. The very power of Tags in TW is superb -- when 
>>> you need that -- in 90% of my cases I don't. A simple literal #hashtag will 
>>> do the job!
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 16 December 2019 17:18:00 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:

 On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> *   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*
> For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add 
> hashtags to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director
> Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they 
> were TW tags.
>

 But... you can do things with tags other than "searching"... like:

 1) generating lists using filter="[tag[foo]]"
 2) navigating to tag-related items by using a tag pill
 3) customize the ViewTemplate with conditional elements based on tags

 Sure, you *could* do (1), and maybe (3) using 
 filter="[search:text[#foo]]", but is that the best approach?

 -e



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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

I'd mark this "Complete" but I don't see how to do that

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

A long time ago Riz made me a tool to convert inline hashtags into TW tags. 
Let me see if I can find it.

On Monday, 16 December 2019 19:02:44 UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> On hastags:
> Ive always thought it would be really helpful to make use of the "On Save" 
> action of tiddlers to employ a hashtag mechanism. If its enabled, when a 
> user saves a tiddler the contents are scanned for hashtags and added as 
> tags (according to pre-specified well defined rules, just like tiddler 
> tittles). Also, any hashtags currently in the tag field that are not 
> present in the text, can also be removed (this could be another option to 
> enable this). 
>
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:27:12 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Eric
>>
>> Totally agree. The point I was getting at was that it is often not 
>> necessary to proliferate tags to IDENTIFY a Tiddler's scope through a 
>> #hashtag.
>>
>> And that was my point. The very power of Tags in TW is superb -- when you 
>> need that -- in 90% of my cases I don't. A simple literal #hashtag will do 
>> the job!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 16 December 2019 17:18:00 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 *   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*
 For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add 
 hashtags to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director
 Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they 
 were TW tags.

>>>
>>> But... you can do things with tags other than "searching"... like:
>>>
>>> 1) generating lists using filter="[tag[foo]]"
>>> 2) navigating to tag-related items by using a tag pill
>>> 3) customize the ViewTemplate with conditional elements based on tags
>>>
>>> Sure, you *could* do (1), and maybe (3) using 
>>> filter="[search:text[#foo]]", but is that the best approach?
>>>
>>> -e
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

Thank you - that worked!

Mental note: if a built-in function is not working (you get that "don't 
mess with shadow tiddlers" edit message) deleting that tiddler will 
(probably) reset things

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

2019-12-16 Thread Diego Mesa

On hastags:
Ive always thought it would be really helpful to make use of the "On Save" 
action of tiddlers to employ a hashtag mechanism. If its enabled, when a 
user saves a tiddler the contents are scanned for hashtags and added as 
tags (according to pre-specified well defined rules, just like tiddler 
tittles). Also, any hashtags currently in the tag field that are not 
present in the text, can also be removed (this could be another option to 
enable this). 


On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:27:12 AM UTC-6, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Eric
>
> Totally agree. The point I was getting at was that it is often not 
> necessary to proliferate tags to IDENTIFY a Tiddler's scope through a 
> #hashtag.
>
> And that was my point. The very power of Tags in TW is superb -- when you 
> need that -- in 90% of my cases I don't. A simple literal #hashtag will do 
> the job!
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
>
> On Monday, 16 December 2019 17:18:00 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> *   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*
>>> For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add 
>>> hashtags to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director
>>> Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they 
>>> were TW tags.
>>>
>>
>> But... you can do things with tags other than "searching"... like:
>>
>> 1) generating lists using filter="[tag[foo]]"
>> 2) navigating to tag-related items by using a tag pill
>> 3) customize the ViewTemplate with conditional elements based on tags
>>
>> Sure, you *could* do (1), and maybe (3) using 
>> filter="[search:text[#foo]]", but is that the best approach?
>>
>> -e
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: The Wild #Hashtag ... a footnote from the wild

Repeat for those on email & adrenaline ... 

On Monday, 16 December 2019 18:55:13 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> In the wild the three-legged #Hashtag, sometimes named #McTiege, 
> perambulates the hills of the Cairngorms counter-clockwise, due to his 
> missing leg.
>
> Some say #McTeige is in search of the Lost Tag; others that #Hashtag is 
> committed to Textual exculpation.
>
> This is just information for the penitents of Aviemore.
>
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

2019-12-16 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi Dave,

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 5:53:25 PM UTC+1, Dave wrote:
>
> Ton, here's my finding (see attached): there's no "recent" in there but 
> there is the "default sidebar tab" which has a TableOfContents in there 
> (but it worked before this)
>
> The  weird thing is that when I go to the "More" tab, the recents there is 
> correct
>
>  
Upon inspection the (sidebar) Recent tab ($:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent) and 
the More > Recent tab ($:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Recent) are different 
tiddlers (and with different tags $:/tags/SideBar & $:/tags/MoreSideBar) 
but contain the same code:

<$macrocall $name="timeline" 
format={{$:/language/RecentChanges/DateFormat}}/>

It looks like $:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent is in the list of overridden shadow 
tiddlers (at least I see it in your picture).
If that is the case, just delete $:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent and the original 
shadow tiddler will be active again.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw5] Re: Recents tab out of order

Ton, here's my finding (see attached): there's no "recent" in there but 
there is the "default sidebar tab" which has a TableOfContents in there 
(but it worked before this)

The  weird thing is that when I go to the "More" tab, the recents there is 
correct

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Thanks Joost!
Based on your answer, I used a wiki for landing page!
So, I many create a tiddler to add wiki links from my working folder like 
this. Assuming I use 127.0.005:8080 as server address! as below


Tiddler
Title: Wiki links
Text: as below
<$list 
filter="[enlist{!!wikis}addprefix[http://127.0.0.5:8080/]addsuffix[.html]];>
> target=_blank><$view tiddler=<
> field=title/>






On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 8:03:37 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 5:24:43 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:39 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> - Linking from a landing page works, if that is what you mean ;-)
>>>
>>
>> I mean when you open localhost:8080 in browser have a landing page to 
>> select a
>> link to open a wiki. Right now I have to type each wiki in address bar 
>> like http://localhost:8080/test.html
>>
>
> If you make a landing page with the right links will work, but there isn't 
> a feature that will do that for you. The software doesn't has a feature for 
> showing a directory structure with all relevant files as well (the Mac 
> software I mentioned above do has that feature btw).
>  
>
>>  
>>
>>> - I use Syncthing with file versioning enabled for my wiki's (apart from 
>>> my regular backup software).
>>>
>> Here I mean something like Timimi to be able to save and backup!
>>
>
> I somehow did understand what you meant :-) but this is my current setup. 
> I didn't test any scripts/plugins/tools for that purpose.. sorry ;-)
>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:36:50 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:

 Joost,
  Is it possible to have a landing page?

 Also what do you think for making backup when saving over webdav?

 --Mohammad

 On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:03:19 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>
>
> You can use it on an USB stick too. You can set a fixed address as 
> well, but you need to set a predefined port in the config file for that 
> to 
> work properly, otherwise the software picks a random one (the example has 
> this already covered)
>
> BR,
>
> Joost
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Could you use this approach Portably? 
>> What I mean is, does this system require you install something on the 
>> PC at a fixed address? 
>> Or could you install it on a usb-stick too?
>>
>> Just wondering
>> Josiah
>>
>> On Monday, 16 December 2019 10:12:07 UTC+1, Joost wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy 
>>> saving with a small system footprint and storage.
>>>
>>> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one 
>>> for my Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build 
>>> in 
>>> for access.
>>>
>>> 1. Windows
>>>
>>> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>>>
>>> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration 
>>> file called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>>>
>>> scope: .
>>> modify: true
>>> address: 0.0.0.0
>>> port: 8080
>>> tls: false
>>> cert: cert.pem
>>> key: key.pem
>>> users:
>>>   - username: admin
>>> password: admin
>>>
>>> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the 
>>> test)
>>> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
>>> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
>>> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your 
>>> configuration 
>>> file).
>>>
>>> 2. Mac
>>>
>>> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is 
>>> very easy to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never 
>>> had any problems.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Joost
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav



On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 5:24:43 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:39 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>>
>>
>> - Linking from a landing page works, if that is what you mean ;-)
>>
>
> I mean when you open localhost:8080 in browser have a landing page to 
> select a
> link to open a wiki. Right now I have to type each wiki in address bar 
> like http://localhost:8080/test.html
>

If you make a landing page with the right links will work, but there isn't 
a feature that will do that for you. The software doesn't has a feature for 
showing a directory structure with all relevant files as well (the Mac 
software I mentioned above do has that feature btw).
 

>  
>
>> - I use Syncthing with file versioning enabled for my wiki's (apart from 
>> my regular backup software).
>>
> Here I mean something like Timimi to be able to save and backup!
>

I somehow did understand what you meant :-) but this is my current setup. I 
didn't test any scripts/plugins/tools for that purpose.. sorry ;-)

>  
>
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:36:50 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Joost,
>>>  Is it possible to have a landing page?
>>>
>>> Also what do you think for making backup when saving over webdav?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:03:19 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:


 You can use it on an USB stick too. You can set a fixed address as 
 well, but you need to set a predefined port in the config file for that to 
 work properly, otherwise the software picks a random one (the example has 
 this already covered)

 BR,

 Joost

 On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Could you use this approach Portably? 
> What I mean is, does this system require you install something on the 
> PC at a fixed address? 
> Or could you install it on a usb-stick too?
>
> Just wondering
> Josiah
>
> On Monday, 16 December 2019 10:12:07 UTC+1, Joost wrote:
>>
>>
>> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy 
>> saving with a small system footprint and storage.
>>
>> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for 
>> my Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in 
>> for 
>> access.
>>
>> 1. Windows
>>
>> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>>
>> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration 
>> file called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>>
>> scope: .
>> modify: true
>> address: 0.0.0.0
>> port: 8080
>> tls: false
>> cert: cert.pem
>> key: key.pem
>> users:
>>   - username: admin
>> password: admin
>>
>> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
>> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
>> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
>> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your 
>> configuration 
>> file).
>>
>> 2. Mac
>>
>> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very 
>> easy to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>>
>>
>> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never 
>> had any problems.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Joost
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

Ciao Eric

Totally agree. The point I was getting at was that it is often not 
necessary to proliferate tags to IDENTIFY a Tiddler's scope through a 
#hashtag.

And that was my point. The very power of Tags in TW is superb -- when you 
need that -- in 90% of my cases I don't. A simple literal #hashtag will do 
the job!

Best wishes
TT


On Monday, 16 December 2019 17:18:00 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> *   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*
>> For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add hashtags 
>> to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director
>> Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they were 
>> TW tags.
>>
>
> But... you can do things with tags other than "searching"... like:
>
> 1) generating lists using filter="[tag[foo]]"
> 2) navigating to tag-related items by using a tag pill
> 3) customize the ViewTemplate with conditional elements based on tags
>
> Sure, you *could* do (1), and maybe (3) using 
> filter="[search:text[#foo]]", but is that the best approach?
>
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav


People might find your webdav server with some scanning tools..  Security 
you could consider:

For the software:

- Enable TLS (see readme)
- Use strong credentials/encyption (see readme)

Additional security you could consider:

- Only allow localhost for your device in your firewall or security tooling
- Consider using a VPN at the coffee shop ;-)

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:54:55 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Would this be secure enough for the "coffee shop" scenario? I notice that 
> it's set to use the local network.
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 1:12:07 AM UTC-8, Joost wrote:
>>
>>
>> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy saving 
>> with a small system footprint and storage.
>>
>> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for my 
>> Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in for 
>> access.
>>
>> 1. Windows
>>
>> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>>
>> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration file 
>> called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>>
>> scope: .
>> modify: true
>> address: 0.0.0.0
>> port: 8080
>> tls: false
>> cert: cert.pem
>> key: key.pem
>> users:
>>   - username: admin
>> password: admin
>>
>> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
>> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
>> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
>> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your configuration 
>> file).
>>
>> 2. Mac
>>
>> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very 
>> easy to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>>
>>
>> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never had 
>> any problems.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Joost
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav



On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:39 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>
>
> - Linking from a landing page works, if that is what you mean ;-)
>

I mean when you open localhost:8080 in browser have a landing page to 
select a
link to open a wiki. Right now I have to type each wiki in address bar like 
http://localhost:8080/test.html
 

> - I use Syncthing with file versioning enabled for my wiki's (apart from 
> my regular backup software).
>
Here I mean something like Timimi to be able to save and backup!
 

>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:36:50 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Joost,
>>  Is it possible to have a landing page?
>>
>> Also what do you think for making backup when saving over webdav?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:03:19 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You can use it on an USB stick too. You can set a fixed address as well, 
>>> but you need to set a predefined port in the config file for that to work 
>>> properly, otherwise the software picks a random one (the example has this 
>>> already covered)
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Joost
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 Could you use this approach Portably? 
 What I mean is, does this system require you install something on the 
 PC at a fixed address? 
 Or could you install it on a usb-stick too?

 Just wondering
 Josiah

 On Monday, 16 December 2019 10:12:07 UTC+1, Joost wrote:
>
>
> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy 
> saving with a small system footprint and storage.
>
> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for 
> my Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in for 
> access.
>
> 1. Windows
>
> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>
> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration 
> file called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>
> scope: .
> modify: true
> address: 0.0.0.0
> port: 8080
> tls: false
> cert: cert.pem
> key: key.pem
> users:
>   - username: admin
> password: admin
>
> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your 
> configuration 
> file).
>
> 2. Mac
>
> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very 
> easy to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>
>
> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never had 
> any problems.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joost
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

Ciao Mark

Yeah. You are right in that "#" in TW has a meaning it doesn't everywhere. 
I do switch it off when its a first character in a Tiddler line when I need 
to.

My hashtaggery comes because of its *very wide use in social networks* like 
Twitter & Telegram where I use it constantly.

But, I think, my key point was that the TEXT field can itself contain a 
Tiddler's own categorisation. 

The proliferation of fields is adjunctive. And sometìmes wonder if they are 
sometimes redundant?

Thoughts in process
TT

On Monday, 16 December 2019 17:05:58 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> But you have to remember that the hash exists, and exactly how you spelled 
> it, preferably including capitalization.
>
> You only have to look at the tag list for GG to see how easily that can go 
> off the wheels.
>
> Also, the tag then becomes embedded in the text, which might mess with 
> presentation. Text might be tagged with terms (#economic-justice 
> #eschatology) that don't actually occur in the text. 
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad
>>
>> It is an interesting question. I have another question too. 
>>
>> *   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*
>>
>> For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add hashtags 
>> to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director
>>
>> Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they were 
>> TW tags.
>>
>> A comment :-)
>> TT
>>
>> On Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:29:17 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> I have read Jeremy has made fields the first citizen of Tiddly wiki!
>>> But what are the pros and cons of using fields? How do you recommend to 
>>> use fields in Tiddlywiki?
>>>
>>> In another thread there is a discourage to use data tiddler in favor of 
>>> fields! I wish to know how and when to use
>>> fields!
>>>
>>> - when you put everything in fields, most search facilities in 
>>> Tiddlywiki do not easily find what you are looking for
>>> - transcludind fields value in text and other place makes it too 
>>> difficult to find the tiddler you look for
>>> - transcluding fields cause confusion for people not familiar with 
>>> Tiddlywiki
>>>
>>> Pros
>>> - field can be used for templating abstraction
>>> - field can be used to create databases
>>> - inheritance can be implemented using fields
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

2019-12-16 Thread Eric Shulman

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> *   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*
> For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add hashtags 
> to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director
> Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they were 
> TW tags.
>

But... you can do things with tags other than "searching"... like:

1) generating lists using filter="[tag[foo]]"
2) navigating to tag-related items by using a tag pill
3) customize the ViewTemplate with conditional elements based on tags

Sure, you *could* do (1), and maybe (3) using filter="[search:text[#foo]]", 
but is that the best approach?

-e

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

- Linking from a landing page works, if that is what you mean ;-)
- I use Syncthing with file versioning enabled for my wiki's (apart from my 
regular backup software).

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:36:50 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Joost,
>  Is it possible to have a landing page?
>
> Also what do you think for making backup when saving over webdav?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:03:19 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>>
>>
>> You can use it on an USB stick too. You can set a fixed address as well, 
>> but you need to set a predefined port in the config file for that to work 
>> properly, otherwise the software picks a random one (the example has this 
>> already covered)
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Joost
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Could you use this approach Portably? 
>>> What I mean is, does this system require you install something on the PC 
>>> at a fixed address? 
>>> Or could you install it on a usb-stick too?
>>>
>>> Just wondering
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>> On Monday, 16 December 2019 10:12:07 UTC+1, Joost wrote:

 I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy 
 saving with a small system footprint and storage.

 I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for 
 my Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in for 
 access.

 1. Windows

 Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/

 See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration file 
 called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:

 scope: .
 modify: true
 address: 0.0.0.0
 port: 8080
 tls: false
 cert: cert.pem
 key: key.pem
 users:
   - username: admin
 password: admin

 Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
 Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
 http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
 "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your 
 configuration 
 file).

 2. Mac

 Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very 
 easy to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.

 I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never had 
 any problems.

 Best regards,

 Joost

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

But you have to remember that the hash exists, and exactly how you spelled 
it, preferably including capitalization.

You only have to look at the tag list for GG to see how easily that can go 
off the wheels.

Also, the tag then becomes embedded in the text, which might mess with 
presentation. Text might be tagged with terms (#economic-justice 
#eschatology) that don't actually occur in the text. 

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:41:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mohammad
>
> It is an interesting question. I have another question too. 
>
> *   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*
>
> For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add hashtags 
> to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director
>
> Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they were 
> TW tags.
>
> A comment :-)
> TT
>
> On Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:29:17 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> I have read Jeremy has made fields the first citizen of Tiddly wiki!
>> But what are the pros and cons of using fields? How do you recommend to 
>> use fields in Tiddlywiki?
>>
>> In another thread there is a discourage to use data tiddler in favor of 
>> fields! I wish to know how and when to use
>> fields!
>>
>> - when you put everything in fields, most search facilities in Tiddlywiki 
>> do not easily find what you are looking for
>> - transcludind fields value in text and other place makes it too 
>> difficult to find the tiddler you look for
>> - transcluding fields cause confusion for people not familiar with 
>> Tiddlywiki
>>
>> Pros
>> - field can be used for templating abstraction
>> - field can be used to create databases
>> - inheritance can be implemented using fields
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Would this be secure enough for the "coffee shop" scenario? I notice that 
it's set to use the local network.

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 1:12:07 AM UTC-8, Joost wrote:
>
>
> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy saving 
> with a small system footprint and storage.
>
> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for my 
> Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in for 
> access.
>
> 1. Windows
>
> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>
> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration file 
> called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>
> scope: .
> modify: true
> address: 0.0.0.0
> port: 8080
> tls: false
> cert: cert.pem
> key: key.pem
> users:
>   - username: admin
> password: admin
>
> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your configuration 
> file).
>
> 2. Mac
>
> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very easy 
> to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>
>
> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never had any 
> problems.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joost
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons



On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:11:15 PM UTC+3:30, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mohammad
>
> It is an interesting question. I have another question too. 
>
> *   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*
>

Absolutely NOT!
 

>
> For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add hashtags 
> to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director
>
> Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they were 
> TW tags.
>

That is true! But these need to be learned! Where is the good Tiddlywiki 
practice?
 

>
> A comment :-)
> TT
>
> On Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:29:17 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> I have read Jeremy has made fields the first citizen of Tiddly wiki!
>> But what are the pros and cons of using fields? How do you recommend to 
>> use fields in Tiddlywiki?
>>
>> In another thread there is a discourage to use data tiddler in favor of 
>> fields! I wish to know how and when to use
>> fields!
>>
>> - when you put everything in fields, most search facilities in Tiddlywiki 
>> do not easily find what you are looking for
>> - transcludind fields value in text and other place makes it too 
>> difficult to find the tiddler you look for
>> - transcluding fields cause confusion for people not familiar with 
>> Tiddlywiki
>>
>> Pros
>> - field can be used for templating abstraction
>> - field can be used to create databases
>> - inheritance can be implemented using fields
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

That is VERY useful. Because it opens possibility you could wrap it into a 
app install.

I will play around a bit.

Tx!
TT

Joost wrote:
>
> You can use it on an USB stick too. You can set a fixed address as well, 
> but you need to set a predefined port in the config file for that to work 
> properly, otherwise the software picks a random one (the example has this 
> already covered)
>

Mohammad wrote:
>
> It is totally portable, put it on your thumb drive and fire up just by 
> running the startServer.cmd as was explained in previous posts. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Using Fields: Pros and Cons

Mohammad

It is an interesting question. I have another question too. 

*   Are we making best use of the TEXT field?*

For instance, rather than add tags in the tag field, I often add hashtags 
to the TEXT field like: #Iran #Kiarostami #director

Searching for those in the text field is just as accurate as if they were 
TW tags.

A comment :-)
TT

On Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:29:17 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> I have read Jeremy has made fields the first citizen of Tiddly wiki!
> But what are the pros and cons of using fields? How do you recommend to 
> use fields in Tiddlywiki?
>
> In another thread there is a discourage to use data tiddler in favor of 
> fields! I wish to know how and when to use
> fields!
>
> - when you put everything in fields, most search facilities in Tiddlywiki 
> do not easily find what you are looking for
> - transcludind fields value in text and other place makes it too difficult 
> to find the tiddler you look for
> - transcluding fields cause confusion for people not familiar with 
> Tiddlywiki
>
> Pros
> - field can be used for templating abstraction
> - field can be used to create databases
> - inheritance can be implemented using fields
>
>
> What do you think?
>

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[tw5] Combind two transcluded ToCs with no vertical space

2019-12-16 Thread DemoniWaari

I have two different ToCs in my sidebar, one for Journal entried (reversed 
creation sorting) and the rest are sorted by title. I have combined them by 
just transcluding both {{TableOfContents-Journal}}{{TableOfContents}} but 
there is an annoying vertical space in between the two. I think that 
TiddlyWiki thinks there should be a new paragraph in between them but I'd 
like to seamlessly combine the two.

Tried googling a little but was not able to find anything on how to combine 
them well. Can someone help? 

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Joost,
 Is it possible to have a landing page?

Also what do you think for making backup when saving over webdav?

--Mohammad

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 7:03:19 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>
>
> You can use it on an USB stick too. You can set a fixed address as well, 
> but you need to set a predefined port in the config file for that to work 
> properly, otherwise the software picks a random one (the example has this 
> already covered)
>
> BR,
>
> Joost
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Could you use this approach Portably? 
>> What I mean is, does this system require you install something on the PC 
>> at a fixed address? 
>> Or could you install it on a usb-stick too?
>>
>> Just wondering
>> Josiah
>>
>> On Monday, 16 December 2019 10:12:07 UTC+1, Joost wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy saving 
>>> with a small system footprint and storage.
>>>
>>> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for my 
>>> Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in for 
>>> access.
>>>
>>> 1. Windows
>>>
>>> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>>>
>>> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration file 
>>> called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>>>
>>> scope: .
>>> modify: true
>>> address: 0.0.0.0
>>> port: 8080
>>> tls: false
>>> cert: cert.pem
>>> key: key.pem
>>> users:
>>>   - username: admin
>>> password: admin
>>>
>>> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
>>> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
>>> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
>>> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your configuration 
>>> file).
>>>
>>> 2. Mac
>>>
>>> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very 
>>> easy to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never had 
>>> any problems.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Joost
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav


You can use it on an USB stick too. You can set a fixed address as well, 
but you need to set a predefined port in the config file for that to work 
properly, otherwise the software picks a random one (the example has this 
already covered)

BR,

Joost

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 4:20:51 PM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Could you use this approach Portably? 
> What I mean is, does this system require you install something on the PC 
> at a fixed address? 
> Or could you install it on a usb-stick too?
>
> Just wondering
> Josiah
>
> On Monday, 16 December 2019 10:12:07 UTC+1, Joost wrote:
>>
>>
>> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy saving 
>> with a small system footprint and storage.
>>
>> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for my 
>> Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in for 
>> access.
>>
>> 1. Windows
>>
>> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>>
>> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration file 
>> called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>>
>> scope: .
>> modify: true
>> address: 0.0.0.0
>> port: 8080
>> tls: false
>> cert: cert.pem
>> key: key.pem
>> users:
>>   - username: admin
>> password: admin
>>
>> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
>> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
>> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
>> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your configuration 
>> file).
>>
>> 2. Mac
>>
>> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very 
>> easy to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>>
>>
>> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never had 
>> any problems.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Joost
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Hi Josiah,

It is totally portable, put it on your thumb drive and fire up just by 
running the startServer.cmd as was explained in previous posts.

You can give access to several folders, but note to use the relative path 
for total portability!

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

Ciao Luis

If you decide to do this TW you might want to add a version control system 
so YOU can evaluate changes: for example 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J-eYE8N68lE/_h8szdHDHQAJ 

Best wishes
TT

On Sunday, 15 December 2019 15:58:06 UTC+1, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Now I realize that my choice of editor is a big problem to collaborate, 
> so I am thinking of another approach.
>
>
> As the most important is the content, it may be more operative to create 
> a wiki so that we can all collaborate more easily. Then I will pass 
> everything to pdf.
>
> I will start a Tiddlywiki with all chapters, drawings etc. But, tell me 
> please: What platform do we have to choose to make collaboration easier?
>
>
> This week I will pass everything I already have in Lyx to a wiki.. This 
> will be  a big effort, but I want this book to be everyone's job.
>
>
> Thanks!! 
> This support gives me a lot of energy to continue with the project
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Could you use this approach Portably? 
What I mean is, does this system require you install something on the PC at 
a fixed address? 
Or could you install it on a usb-stick too?

Just wondering
Josiah

On Monday, 16 December 2019 10:12:07 UTC+1, Joost wrote:
>
>
> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy saving 
> with a small system footprint and storage.
>
> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for my 
> Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in for 
> access.
>
> 1. Windows
>
> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>
> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration file 
> called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>
> scope: .
> modify: true
> address: 0.0.0.0
> port: 8080
> tls: false
> cert: cert.pem
> key: key.pem
> users:
>   - username: admin
> password: admin
>
> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your configuration 
> file).
>
> 2. Mac
>
> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very easy 
> to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>
>
> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never had any 
> problems.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joost
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Itty.bitty - a cousin to the tiddler?

It is an interesting issue. 

What one wants is the "easiest route". Give me A BUTTON, always.

The itty.bitty thing goes through a server. It is a recomposition to HTML 
of a decomposition and concatenation of bits. 
Basically it is a compacted page of all elements present in render.

I am SURE we can do that.

Best wishes
TT

On Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:36:41 UTC+1, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> Does/Could/should it not occupy a similar space to the qrcode.. Press the 
> hypothetical button to create a link for.. Much like the qrcode button does 
> right now? 
> I once tried to share a tiddlywiki as an html file via email as a thing to 
> be read by someone else and they said they didn't know how to open it... A 
> link would perhaps not of encountered that kind of non it person block? 

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[tw5] Re: Itty.bitty - a cousin to the tiddler?

Ciao Steve

You can include IN email TW HTML quite easily. At the moment on the 
pre-release version, in editor, includes a "Raw HTML" preview. You just 
copy the code from that.

To make is sweetly neat you need a browser add in like "
https://markdown-here.com/; that will convert a css styleset to be inline. 
Email can only use "inline" CSS.

A comment
Best wishes, TT

On Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:36:41 UTC+1, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> Does/Could/should it not occupy a similar space to the qrcode.. Press the 
> hypothetical button to create a link for.. Much like the qrcode button does 
> right now? 
> I once tried to share a tiddlywiki as an html file via email as a thing to 
> be read by someone else and they said they didn't know how to open it... A 
> link would perhaps not of encountered that kind of non it person block? 

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

TW-Scripts solution to running webdav

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Easy%20Local%20Saving%20with%20WebDav

Easy Local Saving with WebDav
Mohammad 16th December 2019
at 2:59pm
solution
*Ref*: Joost

*Keywords*: saving single-file webdav

The hacdias/webdav is a simple Go
WebDAV server. It can be used to save Tiddlywiki single html file using any
web browser (firefox, chrome, edge) even old browser like IE.

The webdav command line interface is really easy to use so you can easily
create a WebDAV server for your own user.
How to use

1. Simply download the suitable executable from
https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/releases
- for example for Windows 64bit downlaod windows-amd64-webdav.zip
2. Unzip the file in the above step in your folder of choice
- For demonstration purpose, C:\TW\Webdav is used here. This folder
called *webdav root folder*.
3. Create a folder in the root of webdav to put your wiki files there
- In this demo it is C:\TW\Webdav\wikis
- Copy some wiki files to wiki folder. For demo purpose here test.html
has
been put in this folder
4. Create a configuration file in webdav root folder to setup the server
as you like.
- For demonstration purpose C:\TW\Webdav\webday.ymal is used here
which is contains

modify: true
address: 127.0.0.1
port: 8080
tls: false
cert: cert.pem
key: key.pem
users:
- username: admin
password: admin
scope: ./wikis

5. Create a shell script as below to fire up your server.
- For demonstration it is called here C:\TW\Webdav\startServer.cmd
containing
the below script

REM Start WebDav Server
webdav.exe -c webdav.yaml

6. Fire up your server by run C:\TW\Webdav\startServer.cmd script
(e.g double click on it)
7. Go to your browser of choice and in address bar type
http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html and login with "admin" and "admin"
(or with the credentials you used in your configuration file).
- In this demo *test.html* is used so in address bar type:
http://localhost:8080/test.html

Remarks

- The wiki folder can have any number of sub folders like
- C:\TW\Webdav\wikis\work
- C:\TW\Webdav\wikis\personal
- There is no need for shell script and one can fire up durectly from
the Windows powershell or command line e.g
- webdav.exe -c webdav.yaml
- The webdav server allows to add any number of users each with
different wiki folder, credential and access level

References

- https://github.com/hacdias/webdav
- https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20via%20WebDAV

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Added to TW-Script (will be available on the next update)

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 12:42:07 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>
>
> I hope sharing this info will help those who are looking for easy saving 
> with a small system footprint and storage.
>
> I use two small WebDav servers for saving, one for my Mac and one for my 
> Windows devices. Both are free and have security features build in for 
> access.
>
> 1. Windows
>
> Software can be found at https://github.com/hacdias/webdav/
>
> See readme for all options. For quick testing make a configuration file 
> called "webdav.yaml" and add the following lines:
>
> scope: .
> modify: true
> address: 0.0.0.0
> port: 8080
> tls: false
> cert: cert.pem
> key: key.pem
> users:
>   - username: admin
> password: admin
>
> Put your wiki in the same directory as the program (just for the test)
> Start with command: "webdav -c webdav.yaml" and go to 
> http://localhost:8080/yourwiki.html in your browser and login with 
> "admin" and "admin" (or with the credentials you used in your configuration 
> file).
>
> 2. Mac
>
> Go to the Mac App store and search for "WebDavNav Server". It is very easy 
> to setup. Let me know if you encounter any problems.
>
>
> I have used both tools for 6 months now on a daily basis and never had any 
> problems.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joost
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Post edited!
See original

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

This is amazing!
I have open 10 wiki at the same time the footprint for webdav is 4.1MB
so, it is great to be used on small and old machine Raspberry Pi or an
old mobile phone with Android installed!

Sugestion
 - If it can create backup, it will be very useful for authoring
 - I shell script like (startServer.cmd) can be used and put as a shortcut 
on Desktop or anywhere to start the server

--Mohammad



On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 1:25:32 PM UTC+3:30, Joost wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Mohammad for your feedback and correction ;-)
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:48:49 AM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Love it!
>>
>> Just download, create the *.yaml* and worked like a charm!
>> Small footprint, simple to use!
>>
>> Info: windows 10, TW 5.1.22p, Edge Chromium 80
>>
>> Note
>>
>> users:
>>   - username: admin
>>   - password: admin
>>
>>
>>
>> should be
>>
>> users:
>>   - username: admin
>> password: admin
>>
>>
>> Wonderful! Thank you very much Joost!
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav




Thanks Mohammad for your feedback and correction ;-)

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 10:48:49 AM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Love it!
>
> Just download, create the *.yaml* and worked like a charm!
> Small footprint, simple to use!
>
> Info: windows 10, TW 5.1.22p, Edge Chromium 80
>
> Note
>
> users:
>   - username: admin
>   - password: admin
>
>
>
> should be
>
> users:
>   - username: admin
> password: admin
>
>
> Wonderful! Thank you very much Joost!
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with WebDav

Love it!

Just download, create the *.yaml* and worked like a charm!
Small footprint, simple to use!

Info: windows 10, TW 5.1.22p, Edge Chromium 80

Note

users:
  - username: admin
  - password: admin



should be

users:
  - username: admin
password: admin


Wonderful! Thank you very much Joost!

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[tw5] Re: Easily open excised (included) tiddler?

2019-12-16 Thread DemoniWaari



If someone is interested in this hack, do note that the normal tiddler save 
and cancel buttons don't do anything. Everything is immediately mirrored to 
the original tiddler and you can only close the edit field from the "hide" 
button at the bottom of the edit area. So its kinda scary, thankfully 
ctrl-z works if you do something you should not.

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 9:28:29 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> This is a little hacky, and I'm sure someone could come up with something 
> more attractive, but I use the text below in a tiddler called "TE" (for 
> template-edit).
>
> After excision, I add ||TE}} . That is, the excision might look like 
> {{mytiddler||TE}}. This puts a button next to the text, that lets me open 
> it up for editing.
>
> Using this approach, you can even do excisions inside of excised tiddlers, 
> and so on.
>
> I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to hack the excise button so that it 
> automatically adds the ||TE to the transclusion text, if it's of interest.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> <$reveal state=<> type="nomatch" text="edit"><$transclude 
> mode="block"/> <$button class="mybuttons" set=<> 
> setTo="edit">Edit
> 
> <$reveal state=<> type="match" text="edit"><$transclude 
> tiddler="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate" /> <$button class="mybuttons" set=<
> > setTo="show">Show 
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 5:30:12 AM UTC-8, DemoniWaari wrote:
>>
>> Are there any good methods of quickly opening an excised tiddler from 
>> inclusion? Oftentimes when I excise a tiddler, I would like to edit it 
>> afterwards but the only way to do this is to go to search and type in the 
>> title of the excised tiddler and open it from there. I'd like to do 
>> something like, highlight the text inside {{}} and it would directly open 
>> the tiddler with that title, with a hotkey or something for example. 
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Introducing TiddlyTables a plugin for creating sortable tables.

Alan,

Good to be added somewhere into documentation.

--Mohammad

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 12:12:28 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
>>
>>1. When the limit on the footer set to show all you, the pagination 
>>disappeared and you can not set a new limit and one has to edit the 
>> tiddler 
>>and set the tbl-limit field
>>
>> This is by design. The default value for *Show Pagination*
>  (tbl-show-pagination) is* auto*. This means it will only show pagination 
> if there are more records than what *Limit* (tbl-limit) is set to. 
> Alternatively, you can set tbl-show-pagination to true or false to force 
> it on or off. The default values for new tables can be changed in 
> *$:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/defaults.*
>  
>
>>
>>1. When the width set to some values less than 100% none of footer 
>>(pagination) nor the red strip (warning for delete all tiddlers) follow 
>> the 
>>width setting and occupy the 100% of tiddler width
>>
>> The reason these elements do not resize with the table is because they 
> are not part of the table. This is why the whole table (and these elements) 
> are wrapped in a containing  element. What you want to do is keep 
> *Table* (tbl-style-table) set to *width:100%; *and set *Container* 
> (tbl-style-container) to 
> whatever you like; for instance: *width:80%;*
>
> I hope this helps,
> Alan
>
>
> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 11:28:48 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> More comments
>>
>>1. When the limit on the footer set to show all you, the pagination 
>>disappeared and you can not set a new limit and one has to edit the 
>> tiddler 
>>and set the tbl-limit field
>>2. When the width set to some values less than 100% none of footer 
>>(pagination) nor the red strip (warning for delete all tiddlers) follow 
>> the 
>>width setting and occupy the 100% of tiddler width
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 15, 2019 at 10:35:19 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich wrote:
>>>
>>> TiddlyTables 0.6.20 is now available at: tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> This release includes:
>>>
>>>- New column template utilizing the Radio Widget. column* tbl-radio* 
>>>renders a radio input that sets field *tbl-selected-record* of the 
>>>current table to the selected record.
>>>- Title param included by default when clicking *new table button*.
>>>- *tbl-show-mode* - dedicated toggle in options menu (and defaults) 
>>>to toggle the mode button. Now the editor and mode buttons can be hidden 
>>>independently.
>>>- Several important Bugfixes.
>>>- Special thanks to Mohammad and Eric Shulman for their 
>>>contributions to this release.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:26:50 AM UTC-6, Alan Aldrich wrote:

 Mohammad, I thought about it and I cannot recall why I decided to go 
 that route. Another option would be to use the tag macro. My best guess is 
 I didn't know about either of these options at the time. I like the 
 simplicity of your suggested template and will change to it in the next 
 release. Thanks for pointing it out, excellent feedback as always!
 Alan

 On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:07:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>  I realized for tags template you have developed your own template! I 
> think you can use the core template for this purpose.
>
> So, in $:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/tags
> replace the content with below
>
> >>
> <$tiddler 
> tiddler=<>>{{||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags}}
> 
>
> where tagclass is used to adjust the margin as TW margin is high for 
> table cell
>
> .tagclass .tc-tags-wrapper{ margin:2px 0px; }
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 10:37:53 PM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
> wrote:
>>
>> Due to a critical bug, TiddlyTables 0.6.19 has been released: 
>> http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> Thanks HC Haase and Mohammad for finding the bug and recommending a 
>> fix.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 5:24:00 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Arlen,
>>>
>>> 1. edit tiddler App Idea as bellow
>>>{{!!description}} This is a test
>>> 2. Create a new Table with tbl-expand
>>> 3. expand the App Idea and look at the text it displays
>>> 4. do you see the description correctly?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 7:37:50 AM UTC+3:30, Alan Aldrich 
>>> wrote:

 Mohammad,
 I was unable to reproduce the bug as described. However I have been 
 aware of some issues with transclusion and have include some major 
 enhancements in the latest release to correct them. There are quite a 
 few 
 new features that I will

[tw5] Easy local saving with WebDav