[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > But you said it runs every 5 minutes. So you kind of have to be aware that > you haven't seen an announcement in the last 5 minutes? > No. Not quite. Only be aware that I "saved" a TW and didn't see a message pop up a few minutes later (i.e. the 5-minute backup only runs when

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-10 Thread Zyb
Thanks, wjam, for this method, just tested it and it works nicely! That would have saved my ass two days ago ... Am Freitag, 9. März 2018 20:03:17 UTC+1 schrieb wjam: > > export to json is done using advanced search > > goto filter tab, > > enter the filtertext below > >

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-10 Thread Zyb
Mark: Yes, that is what I’m saying. And it’s worse: I let TW save on tiddler edit and the little popup box in the upper right corner that says ‘saved wiki’ *does* appear to signal the save when the tiddler is changed from draft to normal. So TW is lying about its status in the user

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread TonyM
Mark, Yes do that. Actually a list of methods would not hurt under an emergency save document. Due to FireFox Plugins occurring in the background has lost a lot of work for me in the past, especially with TWC. I now maintain autosave on every tiddler edit. I achieve this by using multiple

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
But you said it runs every 5 minutes. So you kind of have to be aware that you haven't seen an announcement in the last 5 minutes? Better to just get a warning from TW that something is amiss. -- Mark On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 12:11:32 PM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Mark, > > That is

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark, That is one of the reasons why I use external backup. It ALERTS me on a real save of new. I get a small notification on screen indicating a new save was found and backed. That way I know if there is a problem when I thought I saved when I don't see that message. Most auto-backup tools

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Zyb is saying (I think) that the failure occurred silently. That is, it didn't announce that it wasn't saving. So your method would fail just like the DropBox method, because no new edits were being saved to disk. Maybe TW needs to make a bigger fuss when a save fails so that the user knows to

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I'm thinking this is so useful, it should be added to the list of saving techniques under "Emergency Export Save". I hope you don't mind if I borrow your instructions... Thanks! Mark On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 11:03:17 AM UTC-8, wjam wrote: > > export to json is done using advanced search > >

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Zyb To the people suggesting backups: You’re aware, right? that we are talking > about unsaved (and unsavable), ‘dirty’ files here, for which the backup > process (simultaneous to the save) has already failed > ABSOLUTELY. That is why I run redundant backup that checks for changes every

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread wjam
export to json is done using advanced search goto filter tab, enter the filtertext below [!is[system]!sort[modified]limit[25]] Check the list of tiddlers. adjust the number "25" to make sure you found all your recently modified tiddlers Then press the bucket with the up arrow [_^_] which

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread Jed Carty
Yes, the solution Thomas suggested is one of the last result methods that always works available when you know that you can't save your file in another way but have the wiki open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread Zyb
Thanks for the sympathy. ;-) To the people suggesting backups: You’re aware, right? that we are talking about unsaved (and unsavable), ‘dirty’ files here, for which the backup process (simultaneous to the save) has already failed and cannot be fixed without restarting the browser, thus closing

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hey people, I feel with Zyb too, data loss is always a disaster or a disappointment at least. BUT in this case it was probably not necessary!!! As described in my last post, there is a workaround for even this scenario when Mario‘s save and backup (it covers that too!) refuses to save: export

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I can feel your pain, since I've lost work from time to time. Pretty much all open source is really in some kind of beta. Even professional tools, like Java, make you agree when you use their product that you won't use it for anything mission-critical. The reason it's always in beta is that

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Zyb & PMario Given that TiddlyWiki runs in a web browser and there are huge chains of complication that can lead to issues, IMO, especially for local TW, one should always also run redundant backup too. The more valuable the data the more important that is. Its not difficult. FWIW in my

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread PMario
Hi Zyb, I'm sorry that you lost work. On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 11:34:33 AM UTC+1, Zyb wrote: ... > Because they save my work without, you know, an addon with all the crappy > dependencies and unknowns and (your phrasing is ironic really) “edge > cases”. I didn't mean it ironic. I

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread Zyb
I have the greatest respect for your work, Mario, and am eternally greatful for your addon. If my posts sounded a little testy, I apologize, but I am quite angry, actually. Not at you personally of course, nor at Jeremy or anyone, but at a situation where I sit here replicating hours of lost

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread PMario
On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 6:42:24 PM UTC+1, Zyb wrote: > > Are you saying that the addon was updated not on browser startup but at > an arbitrary point in between? > I think, it's a browser background task. ... but there is no description how updates happen. .. At least I haven't found one

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-09 Thread PMario
On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 8:08:51 PM UTC+1, Thomas Elmiger wrote: > > Confirming: After the update a browser restart is necessary, otherwise the > ability to save is lost. (Mac, FF Developer Edition) I don't think, it's a browser restart. IMO reloading the tab is enough. ... But I have to

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-08 Thread Zyb
Yeah, I switched off auto-updates now ... but ... I mean, I accept that a browser restart is necessary to load the new version of an addon -- but why does the mere update process render the previous version non-functional until the restart? Is that indeed a usual thing happening? I can’t

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-08 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Confirming: After the update a browser restart is necessary, otherwise the ability to save is lost. (Mac, FF Developer Edition) Maybe the plugin could spit out a warning? This is why I switched off auto-updates in the plugin settings some time ago. Nevertheless I forgot to restart and had to

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-08 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Zyb, Mario, Yesterday I did notice the same. At a certain moment I could not save anymore (normally auto saving but got the download message now), saw the announcement of the new version of the file-backups add-on, checked my Firefox and saw the add-on had been updated autonmatically. After

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-08 Thread Zyb
What do you mean ‘restart my browser’? I started it up this morning, did some work (TW5) and then noticed that I couldn’t save it. Went to the forum and immediately saw your update notice (thanks for posting those, btw) Are you saying that the addon was updated not on browser startup but at an

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-08 Thread PMario
On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 4:08:59 PM UTC+1, Zyb wrote: > > With the new version of the add-on (I presume because nothing else has > changed since yesterday), my TWs won’t save and won’t backup anymore. > Windows 7, FF 58.0.2. Hope you can fix the fix quickly. :) > Hi, Did you restart your

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-08 Thread Zyb
Hey Mario, With the new version of the add-on (I presume because nothing else has changed since yesterday), my TWs won’t save and won’t backup anymore. Windows 7, FF 58.0.2. Hope you can fix the fix quickly. :) All best, Zyb Am Mittwoch, 7. März 2018 18:53:03 UTC+1 schrieb PMario: > > Hi

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-07 Thread PMario
On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 12:10:34 AM UTC+1, Alfonso Arciniega wrote: > > The https://github.com/pmario/file-backups/releases/tag/V0.3.5 redirects > you to the German version in FF addons, not the English one. You may want > to change a part of the link from "de" to "en-US". > Thx for the

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-07 Thread Alfonso Arciniega
Thanks, Mario, The https://github.com/pmario/file-backups/releases/tag/V0.3.5 redirects you to the German version in FF addons, not the English one. You may want to change a part of the link from "de" to "en-US". Regards, Alfonso On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 10:53:03 AM UTC-7, PMario

[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" V0.3.5 small bugfix release

2018-03-07 Thread PMario
Original intro posts with much more info: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/file-backups%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/iAx4wT_s9d0/XNOzwZx7AQAJ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/file-backups|sort:date/tiddlywiki/h0k7z62N79Y/uhfU32RXBQAJ -m -- You received this