[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Jeremy

One really big PLUS about TiddlyDesktop is the EASE of install and initial 
use.

Feedback and questions are welcome
>

Best wishes
Josiah 

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Jeremy

First off for me is that serious CSS (outdate) rendering issues of the 
previous version are gone.

BEFORE update (messed-up) ...



AFTER update (correct) ...


I'll look at the rest of issues next, but that one, for me, CSS 
reliability, was central.

Best wishes
Josiah

Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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> ... Feedback and questions are welcome ...
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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[Birthe C]

This is what I tried 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40477785/nwjs-how-to-distribute-app-on-linux
and it works for me on linux Mint Mate 17.3


Birthe


Den torsdag den 19. oktober 2017 kl. 14.18.43 UTC+2 skrev kelsang sherab:
>
> Birthe C
>
> I assume you are not asking me but making an observation.
> We need to turn to the gods...;-)
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[Birthe C]

Hi James,

I am running Mint, and nw doesn't do anything. Looking in properties it is 
a shared library. 
When I tried to run it at first I got an error telling me, that something 
was missing.

@Kelsang nw was marked executable, when unpacked but something is missing.

It seems to me that some versions of linux always have this problem with nw.


Birthe


Den torsdag den 19. oktober 2017 kl. 05.07.51 UTC+2 skrev James A Bernard:
>
> Hey kelsang,
> How did you get it working?
> I'm running debian (similar to Mint) and nw file doesn't do anything!
> Cheers
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[TonyM]

Jeremy,

It is reoccurring under Chrome Canary exactly the same. But I also 
discovered it is the Same in General release Chrome. But Not in FireFox. I 
tend to have stayed with FireFox for this legacy and large TWC and not used 
it in Chrome as a rule.

Anyway in an attempt to give you a minimum case I discovered FireFox does 
not show anything in view mode, but in edit it shows the following box 
characters where they should not be.



In Chrome and TiddlyDesktop they faithfully reproduce these errant 
characters in view and edit mode. With a slightly different look.



I do not think this a problem, as I seem to have invalid characters that 
firefox ignored and its trivial to remove them.

Unless you think it serious I am happy to leave it there.

Can we launch a specific tiddlywiki using TiddlyDesktop from a Command 
line/shortcut so it looks like an Application?
.

Thanks heaps , and TiddlyDesktops is looking great.
Tony



 



On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 7:12:11 PM UTC+11, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Tony
>
> On 19 Oct 2017, at 03:28, TonyM  
> wrote:
>
> Looking good so far.  I am looking into some opportunities and may have 
> some questions later, however one cosmetic problem is my TWC is displaying 
> differently on TiddlyDesktop. Is there a font issue at play?
>
>
> Hmm it looks like maybe a character encoding issue.
>
> It might be interesting to see how that TWC displays in the latest 
> Chromium (which is the open source browser underlying NW.js which is the 
> engine underlying TiddlyDesktop) or Chrome Canary (which is the Googlified 
> version of Chromium that is distributed as Chrome). You can download them 
> here:
>
> https://download-chromium.appspot.com/
> https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/canary.html
>
> Otherwise, it would be helpful if you were able to post a minimal wiki 
> that exhibits the problem so that I can look at it,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Tony

> On 19 Oct 2017, at 03:28, TonyM  wrote:
> 
> Looking good so far.  I am looking into some opportunities and may have some 
> questions later, however one cosmetic problem is my TWC is displaying 
> differently on TiddlyDesktop. Is there a font issue at play?

Hmm it looks like maybe a character encoding issue.

It might be interesting to see how that TWC displays in the latest Chromium 
(which is the open source browser underlying NW.js which is the engine 
underlying TiddlyDesktop) or Chrome Canary (which is the Googlified version of 
Chromium that is distributed as Chrome). You can download them here:

https://download-chromium.appspot.com/ 
https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/canary.html 


Otherwise, it would be helpful if you were able to post a minimal wiki that 
exhibits the problem so that I can look at it,

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[James A Bernard]

Hey kelsang,
How did you get it working?
I'm running debian (similar to Mint) and nw file doesn't do anything!
Cheers

On Thursday, 19 October 2017 01:14:16 UTC+11, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
> Ahh my mistake.
> I went into tthe tidllywiki folder in the tiddlydesktop folder instead of 
> simply running the nw file in the tiddlydesktop folder.
>
> apologies for not getting it right.
>
> TD works now and I have created my first TW file on it 
>
> I need to work out what the TW on Node.js is but that'll probably come 
> with time.
>
> many thanks for your hard work
>
> On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 2:15:38 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> On Linux mint 18.2 I followed the insturctions in the readme.md and 
>> things seemed to be going well but then :
>>
>> Except not. lol.
>>
>> Attached is  screenshot of my terminal
>>
>> What am i doing wrong?
>>
>>
>> It looks like maybe you don’t have node.js installed properly. Visit 
>> https://nodejs.org/en/ to install it.Î
>>
>> But the screenshot shows the steps for installing TiddlyWiki itself, not 
>> those for installing TiddlyDesktop.
>>
>> Are you trying to install TiddlyWiki under Node.js, or are you trying to 
>> install TiddlyDesktop?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 9:16:13 AM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m happy to announce a new release of TiddlyDesktop, including new 
>>> features that support creating external attachments via drag and drop — in 
>>> other words, it lets you drag a .JPG file into your TiddlyWiki and have it 
>>> appear as a tiddler with a _canonical_uri field pointing to the original 
>>> file.
>>>
>>> I’ve had reservations about TiddlyDesktop for some time: particularly 
>>> that the understandable pressure from users to make it as good as 
>>> commercial browsers would become a Sisyphean task. Things change; like many 
>>> others, I’ve been relying on TiddlyFox for all my personal work with 
>>> Dropbox-based single file TiddlyWikis on my Mac. With its demise I plan to 
>>> switch to TiddlyDesktop; if it works out, it should help encourage me to 
>>> keep it up to date :)
>>>
>>> This release is mainly about integrating the latest version of the 
>>> underlying NW.js platform. Significant changes to the code were required 
>>> because of many deep changes in NW.js itself. New features include:
>>>
>>> • Latest Chromium features (e.g. integrated PDF viewer)
>>> • Resolves bugs related to window positioning (e.g. quitting while 
>>> windows are minimised) by using NW.js new built-in window handling
>>> • Updated visual appearance for the main toolbar
>>> • New, more distinctive application icon
>>>
>>> You can download the new release here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases/tag/v0.0.9
>>>
>>> As usual, please exercise caution when upgrading: take careful backups 
>>> and don’t rely on it for anything important until you’ve tested things 
>>> thoroughly.
>>>
>>> The support for external attachments takes the form of a new plugin on 
>>> the TiddlyWiki side. I did it this way around because the external 
>>> attachment support isn’t actually dependent upon TiddlyDesktop — it will 
>>> work with any browser environment that provides a “path” property with the 
>>> “File” object created during drag-and-drop operations. There are no such 
>>> alternatives right now, but it gives us room to get things working on 
>>> platforms such as Quine on iOS.
>>>
>>> The new plugin is included in the latest 5.1.15-prerelease:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fexternal-attachments
>>>  
>>> 
>>>
>>> Note that the plugin requires the matching version of the core to 
>>> operate properly; it can’t be used with older versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> Feedback and questions are welcome,
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[TonyM]

Jeremy,

Looking good so far.  I am looking into some opportunities and may have 
some questions later, however one cosmetic problem is my TWC is displaying 
differently on TiddlyDesktop. Is there a font issue at play?

as it appears in TiddlyDesktop


When it should appear




Thanks in Advance
Tony

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[coda coder]

Congrats, Jeremy.  Nice to see multi-instance support added - an issue 
which had led me to turn away from TD in the past.  Is there any hope that 
other "standard" browser features may be added? Cmd/Ctrl-F perhaps? 
(Reading the github issues, it doesn't seem likely).


On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 3:16:13 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m happy to announce a new release of TiddlyDesktop, including new 
> features that support creating external attachments via drag and drop — in 
> other words, it lets you drag a .JPG file into your TiddlyWiki and have it 
> appear as a tiddler with a _canonical_uri field pointing to the original 
> file.
>
> I’ve had reservations about TiddlyDesktop for some time: particularly that 
> the understandable pressure from users to make it as good as commercial 
> browsers would become a Sisyphean task. Things change; like many others, 
> I’ve been relying on TiddlyFox for all my personal work with Dropbox-based 
> single file TiddlyWikis on my Mac. With its demise I plan to switch to 
> TiddlyDesktop; if it works out, it should help encourage me to keep it up 
> to date :)
>
> This release is mainly about integrating the latest version of the 
> underlying NW.js platform. Significant changes to the code were required 
> because of many deep changes in NW.js itself. New features include:
>
> • Latest Chromium features (e.g. integrated PDF viewer)
> • Resolves bugs related to window positioning (e.g. quitting while windows 
> are minimised) by using NW.js new built-in window handling
> • Updated visual appearance for the main toolbar
> • New, more distinctive application icon
>
> You can download the new release here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases/tag/v0.0.9
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when upgrading: take careful backups and 
> don’t rely on it for anything important until you’ve tested things 
> thoroughly.
>
> The support for external attachments takes the form of a new plugin on the 
> TiddlyWiki side. I did it this way around because the external attachment 
> support isn’t actually dependent upon TiddlyDesktop — it will work with any 
> browser environment that provides a “path” property with the “File” object 
> created during drag-and-drop operations. There are no such alternatives 
> right now, but it gives us room to get things working on platforms such as 
> Quine on iOS.
>
> The new plugin is included in the latest 5.1.15-prerelease:
>
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fexternal-attachments
>  
> 
>
> Note that the plugin requires the matching version of the core to operate 
> properly; it can’t be used with older versions of TiddlyWiki.
>
> Feedback and questions are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.9

[Jeremy Ruston]

> On Linux mint 18.2 I followed the insturctions in the readme.md and things 
> seemed to be going well but then :
> 
> Except not. lol.
> 
> Attached is  screenshot of my terminal
> 
> What am i doing wrong?

It looks like maybe you don’t have node.js installed properly. Visit 
https://nodejs.org/en/  to install it.Î

But the screenshot shows the steps for installing TiddlyWiki itself, not those 
for installing TiddlyDesktop.

Are you trying to install TiddlyWiki under Node.js, or are you trying to 
install TiddlyDesktop?

Best wishes

Jeremy


> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 9:16:13 AM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> I’m happy to announce a new release of TiddlyDesktop, including new features 
> that support creating external attachments via drag and drop — in other 
> words, it lets you drag a .JPG file into your TiddlyWiki and have it appear 
> as a tiddler with a _canonical_uri field pointing to the original file.
> 
> I’ve had reservations about TiddlyDesktop for some time: particularly that 
> the understandable pressure from users to make it as good as commercial 
> browsers would become a Sisyphean task. Things change; like many others, I’ve 
> been relying on TiddlyFox for all my personal work with Dropbox-based single 
> file TiddlyWikis on my Mac. With its demise I plan to switch to 
> TiddlyDesktop; if it works out, it should help encourage me to keep it up to 
> date :)
> 
> This release is mainly about integrating the latest version of the underlying 
> NW.js platform. Significant changes to the code were required because of many 
> deep changes in NW.js itself. New features include:
> 
>   • Latest Chromium features (e.g. integrated PDF viewer)
>   • Resolves bugs related to window positioning (e.g. quitting while 
> windows are minimised) by using NW.js new built-in window handling
>   • Updated visual appearance for the main toolbar
>   • New, more distinctive application icon
> 
> You can download the new release here:
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases/tag/v0.0.9 
> 
> 
> As usual, please exercise caution when upgrading: take careful backups and 
> don’t rely on it for anything important until you’ve tested things thoroughly.
> 
> The support for external attachments takes the form of a new plugin on the 
> TiddlyWiki side. I did it this way around because the external attachment 
> support isn’t actually dependent upon TiddlyDesktop — it will work with any 
> browser environment that provides a “path” property with the “File” object 
> created during drag-and-drop operations. There are no such alternatives right 
> now, but it gives us room to get things working on platforms such as Quine on 
> iOS.
> 
> The new plugin is included in the latest 5.1.15-prerelease:
> 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fexternal-attachments
>  
> 
> 
> Note that the plugin requires the matching version of the core to operate 
> properly; it can’t be used with older versions of TiddlyWiki.
> 
> Feedback and questions are welcome,
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
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