[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[PMario]

On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 1:28:04 AM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I meant "create a site/page/tiddlywiki just for this series." 
>

Yea. I probably will in the future. ... But this recording project already 
blocked a project, that is also important. 

-m

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I meant "create a site/page/tiddlywiki just for this series." 

Josiah

On Sunday, 5 November 2017 00:02:46 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 11:17:22 PM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> This a major series. Very useful.
>>
>
> thx
>  
>
>> Könntest du eine Seite nur dafür machen?
>>
>  
> What do you mean by: "creating a page for only this?"
>
> -m
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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[@TiddlyTweeter]

This a major series. Very useful.

Könntest du eine Seite nur dafür machen?

Buona notte
Josiah

On Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:54:51 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Did just upload several videos: 
>
> Script Todo Manager - description inline editing part - 10 
> 
>  
> ... This video shows the inlie editing components for the script 
> description fieldScript Todo Manager Problem - new bundle needed - 11 
> 
>  
> ... This video discusses a shortcomming, that requires the bundle to be 
> fixed ;)* see attachment V0.0.3 of the bundle*
> Script Todo Manager - link list part1 - functionality - 12 
> 
>  
> ... This video shows the editing components for the script links arrayScript 
> Todo Manager - link list part2 - implementation - 13 
> 
>  
> ... This video shows the editing components for the script links array. 
> Digging into the code!Script Todo Manager - lists and dynamic variables - 
> 14 
> 
>  
> ... This is a short discussion about, how the list widget uses variables 
> and how we can access and modify themScript Todo Manager - create toggle 
> button from scratch part1 - 15 
> 
>  
> ... This video discusses the creation of a toggle button from scratch. It 
> also shows, how to assign specific "on-open", "on-close" actions to the 
> buttonScript Todo Manager - create toggle button from scratch part2 - 16 
> ...  
> 
> Script Todo Manager - create toggle button from scratch part3 - 17 
> 
>  
> ... This video discusses the usage, of the newly created toggle button.
>
>
> have fun!
>
> mario
>
>

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[@TiddlyTweeter]

The CSS related video (#5) is very good. Its the extra piece needed. 

CSS in TW deserves much more documentation because its somewhat different 
in how it works than most people expect. (1) css IDs are not reliable 
[downside]. (2) css can be VERY EASILY applied and unapplied [big upside].

This is obvious to US. I'm pretty sure this is NOT obvious to new users.  

Also, you might want to document that not all of that CSS is backwards 
compatible?

Best wishes
Josiah 

On Saturday, 28 October 2017 17:53:35 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Script Todo Manager - todo list - 05 
> 
>  
> .. This video discusses the todo-list layout and the CSS used to define it.
>
> As always. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario

Tech sidenote: Auto-captioning on YT is rarely as good as its claimed. I 
think its usually too much work to get into. BUT the tech behind it IS 
getting better and maybe it works better now?

In the past you had to speak like a robot if you wanted it automatic. 
YouTube is a PRIMITIVE instrument. Professional software like Premiere and 
Avid do it quite well. 

I think your spoken English is good. 

IF you want on screen words then I think you'll have to write them & 
display them unless YT has got factors better than it was.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario,

I see Part 3 online. I can't see it mentioned on Google Groups??? But is it 
just me missing it here?

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[Eneko Gotzon]

For non English native speakers like me it would be beneficial to use
YouTube's automatic captioning
 feature (and to
try to pronounce as well as clear as possible :).

Thank you very much, code sorcerers!

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 1:57 PM, PMario  wrote:

> Hi foks,
>
> Just uploaded the 4th video: Script Todo - layout and styles - 04
> 
>
> It contains a description, how the "script-list" view was created, about
> the CSS used and a layout overview.
>
> According to the feedback form Tony, I have tweaked the audio settings a
> bit. So please tell me, if it is better for you now!
>
> The next 2 videos will discuss the ToDo-list layout and the "new todo"
> layout in more detail.
>
> As always: Feedback very welcome! ... Also *subscribe to the channel and
> Hit the Like-Button ;)*
>
> have fun!
> mario
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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario

Small tech comment on the minor sound issue that TonyM wrote about. 
Auto-on-off gates are more trouble than they are worth. In my experience 
the single biggest issue is the quality of the microphone and its 
type--some are much better for this type of thing. If you are going to do a 
lot of this type of recording its perhaps worth buying one. A mid level 
effective way is to record sound using a dedicated recording device 
separate from computer and sync the sound later. But that's likely more 
hassle and cost than you need. I would look at mike types though. If you 
need info on options you can send me a private message.

J.

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[TonyM]

Mario,

Good work, It demonstrates well how videos can be more comprehensive, 
allowing the watcher to "read between the lines" visually as well as 
understanding "context" that is hard to communicate in text or pure audio. 
I have watched the first two so far, and you now have me wanting to use and 
extend the tools you demonstrate.

Some feedback: You have a good voice for audio because a deep voice carries 
well through smaller speakers. I have good speakers at home and still had a 
little difficulty and it is possibly because there is subtle (almost 
imperceptible) echo where you are recording, that is in tune with your 
voice frequency. If you can apply some additional treble, place something 
soft over a hard surface near your recording location I think your voice 
would be clearer.

I have being convinced video is a good communication method for both 
newbies and complex communications alike for some time, but your example 
proves it.

PS I really want to use your tab link tool, can we make it create tiddlers 
tagged with the current tiddler and a suffix for the tab name?

Thanks for your work

Tony 

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 10:38:05 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi folks, 
>
> I want to introduce a video series, that is based on a bundle, that I 
> created and which is attached here. 
> The bundle implements a workflow, that was requested some time ago by a 
> user here in the group 
> . 
>
> I use tiddly wiki to deal with a set of scripts that allow me to reproduce 
>> some results I need to be able to reproduce (go go science !).
>> Each of these scripts is contained in a tiddler that is tagged with the 
>> name of the article it is related. 
>>
>> Each of these scripts has three main fields: 
>> *summary, that is a description of what it is computed, 
>> *todo, you know what it is,
>> *results, which is a list of path to files than are the e.g. files, 
>> tables ... generated by the script.
>>
>
> IMO we can see a request like this, relatively often here in the group. 
> That's why I wanted to explore it a little bit closer. 
>
> And here, is what I came up with as a FIRST STEP.
>
> see the ~10m video: Script / ToDo manager for TiddlyWiki 01 
> 
>  
>
> The second step will be a video about the plugins I did use to create my 
> "development environment". Which I will post soon!
>
> What do you think?
> Feedback very welcome!
>
> have fun!
> mario
> PS: The end result of this journe, should be a bundle / plugins, that are 
> generic enought to be a good base for user based layouts. 
>
> PPS: Video-list
>
> Script / ToDo manager for TiddlyWiki 01 
> 
>  
> ... How to use the bundle / workflow
> Script Todo - Footer HowTo - 02 
> .
>  
> ... It contains a short overview, how the specific footers for the Script 
> and ToDo tiddlers are created. 2nd attachment 
> 
> Script Todo Manager - elements - 03 
> 
>  
> ... Overview about the different tiddlers in the bundle
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[PMario]

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 2:06:22 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Excellent again! 
>

thx
 

> One suggestion. Say something about the skill level needed to get the 
> most out of it. 
>

ok
 

> In my guess its not "beginner" level. Its more like "medium to advanced." 
> For instance, in may case, I'll have to watch it a few times to fully get 
> the details. But that may just be my general slowness. Perhaps also write a 
> little more about what it is for, what the benefits are?
>

As I said in the first video. ... I also got tricked a bit by the clear 
definition, what's the usecase (as I did understand it). ... 

The connections between the different elements are relatively straight 
forward:

a) script ... tagged with article name ... not part of the bundle, because 
it's obvious. ... But I should mention it ;)

b) script view ... contains "summary / description" field. 
c) script view ... contains a list of "related todo's"
d) script view ... contains a list of "links to additional info / files"

Now the users question was: *How to create the connections?* + UI ... 

I did it that way: 

 - Article, scripts, todo's and links-container ... are physical tiddlers. 

 - I could have done the different links as single tiddlers too, but I 
think that would create unnecessary "noise". That's why I did contain all 
the links in one tiddler. 

 - Every script tiddler can be related to several link-containers. ... 
Link-containers are tagged with the script-name

 - Todo's contain a field named: script.  ... This field contains (links 
to) the related script


With those definitions in place, we can create all the needed lists and the 
related UI. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario

Excellent again! 

I think its a really good example of a practical, useful, tutorial on how 
to make a "DIY workshop" effectively.

One suggestion. Say something about the skill level needed to get the most 
out of it. In my guess its not "beginner" level. Its more like "medium to 
advanced." For instance, in may case, I'll have to watch it a few times to 
fully get the details. But that may just be my general slowness. Perhaps 
also write a little more about what it is for, what the benefits are?

Best wishes
Josiah

PMario wrote:
>
> This is the second video: Script Todo - Footer HowTo - 02 
> .
>  
> It contains a short overview, how the specific footers for the Script and 
> ToDo tiddlers are created.
>
> This post contains an attached bundle with the plugins, that I used to 
> create the stuff. 
> They can also be found here: https://wikilabs.github.io/
>

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[Sylvain Naudin]

Hi Mario, I just wath the first video, it's a nice one, very clear and good 
speed voice.

Cheers,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario

Further to my last ...

The second step will be a video about the plugins I did use to create my 
> "development environment". 
>

Spot on!

An issue is this: de facto people who hang out here are mainly doing DIY, 
or edging towards it. For decent DIY you need a "workshop" (in the UK its 
called "a shed", in Italy a "laboratorio" :-), an environment suited to 
on-going fiddling-about ("bricolage" in the wonderful French word that fits 
TW so very well).

I think there are many unseen "workshops" behind what happens here. I think 
if they were a bit more visible sometimes it would help quite a lot. 

Its NOT just outcomes that matter to problem solving. Its the modus 
operandi too.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario

Excellent! Useful both for the initial purpose but more generally too in 
illustrating how EASY stuff is once you know what to do.

My One Problem with such tutorials is the general problem with this group 
that in 3 weeks time no one will know it exists. More and more I feel we 
need a Central Hub of some kind that presents instructional material that 
is Organised so you can find things. We can't just leave this to Jeremy.

I think its a great shame we seem to lack the collective will to figure out 
a solution to this issue.

The truth is that IF I'd been aware that such tutorials existed when I 
started my learning would have been much faster. I wasn't so I didn't :-). 

Best wishes
Josiah

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