[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

This was a really interesting thread for me. 

When I made the initial post I had NO idea that it would get interest about 
deeper (& some fundamental?) issues--maybe they should rather be addresses 
on Github? Though also maybe need working through a bit more first to be 
able to do that?

I do think there is maybe a missing "bridge" somewhere.

I'm still convinced Google Groups is sup-optimal for what we need. Though 
realise its harder to think through to a way ahead that would be better 
than I first thought. 

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[Rizwan Ishak]

The usual way to avoid that would be to attach the "data" prefix,  say
"data-myparam", right?


I like your macro trick. However,  it adds a second step to the workflow.
The idea was to make multiple varying widget calls with same parameters
easy.  With macros we will have to define each widget separately before
using it. Anyway,  sans such a solution,  this would have to do I guess.

On 12-Oct-2017 9:27 PM, "PMario"  wrote:

> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 10:41:37 AM UTC+2, Riz wrote:
>>
>> Moreover, macros are not taking care of the second part, which is support
>> for unknown parameters.
>>
>>  For eg: I type
>>
>> <$button tabindex=0>My Button
>>
>> and the generated html fails to show the tabindex property. Tabindex is
>> not yet supported as a property of button widget. Currently if we want to
>> add it, we need to modify button.js. I was hoping the widgets like button,
>> edit-text etc will map all unknown parameters to the generated html
>> counterpart without modification. In the above example, it would generate
>> My Button
>>
>>
> You are right, that's a new behaviour, which could be implemented for
> every widget, that creates DOM elements. ...
>
> The only problem would be to avoid parameter names, that will be
> implemented into future HTML specs, which are unknown at the moment of this
> writing.
>
> -m
>
> ...

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[PMario]

On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 10:41:37 AM UTC+2, Riz wrote:
>
> IMO this can already be done with macors, without any new invention. 
>> -m
>>
> Can you provide an example? So far I failed to replicate the intended 
> results. When I write <$button <>> Hello  it returns an 
> error.
>

 The call I had in mind looks like this: 

<>

A heavily simplified macro implementatoin would be similar to - eg:

title: myButtonMacro
tag: $:/tags/Macro

\define myButton(params label:"click me")
<$button to={{$params$##to}} 
class={{$params$##class}}>"""$label$"""
\end


title: params
type: application/json

{
"class": "myclass",
"to": "params"
 }


call: <>

have fun!
mario
 

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[Riz]

>
>
> IMO this can already be done with macors, without any new invention. 
>
> -m
>  
>
>
Can you provide an example? So far I failed to replicate the intended 
results. When I write <$button <>> Hello  it returns an 
error.

Moreover, macros are not taking care of the second part, which is support 
for unknown parameters. 


 For eg: I type

<$button tabindex=0>My Button

and the generated html fails to show the tabindex property. Tabindex is not 
yet supported as a property of button widget. Currently if we want to add 
it, we need to modify button.js. I was hoping the widgets like button, 
edit-text etc will map all unknown parameters to the generated html 
counterpart without modification. In the above example, it would generate 
My Button



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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[TonyM]

PS

Genralise that to any link to a tiddler or tag display the tooltip field in 
that tiddler or tag if it has a value.

Tony

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[TonyM]

All,

I would like tags, who have matching tiddlers, which contain a tooltip 
field, to display that tooltip on hovering over a tag pill

Simple But powerful.

I have plenty of other ideas, but I do not want to scare anyone.

Tony

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[codacodercodacoder]

IMO, the UI for fields could do with some love, care and attention.  I have 
frequently wanted to copy/move a set of fields from one tiddler to 
another.  A way to do that without going through the standard UI would be 
very helpful.  Imagine "marking" the required fields (via checkboxes, 
perhaps?) then clicking a button "Copy" or "Move".  Open the target tiddler 
and click "paste".  The marked fields are then copied/moved into the target 
tiddler. Done.

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 4:27:32 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> There are so many great programmers here I thought it might be a useful 
> idea to have a general "Suggestions Box" for stuff that has not been (as 
> far as I know) been implemented they might be interested in ...
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[Arlen Beiler]

Popups that scroll if they are longer than the window. I remember
implementing this in TiddlyWiki Classic, but I'm not sure if I ever got it
for TiddlyWiki Five. Also center them in the window when the screen is
narrower than a certain amount. :)

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 7:18 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 2:48:26 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Ouch! Collision while catching the ball :–)
>> Ex-volley-ball-player here, Mark. But I have to admit that my VB-level
>> was only very amateur-ish, just as my development-skills.
>> Cheers, Thomas
>>
>>
> Mine too, though I did manage to break someone's foot ... when they landed
> on mine!
>
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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 2:48:26 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Ouch! Collision while catching the ball :–)
> Ex-volley-ball-player here, Mark. But I have to admit that my VB-level was 
> only very amateur-ish, just as my development-skills.
> Cheers, Thomas
>
>
Mine too, though I did manage to break someone's foot ... when they landed 
on mine!


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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[TonyM]

I replied late last night (Sydney time) on my Mobile only to loose my post 
to the digital grave yard.

I wanted to say this should be generalised rather than made specific to 
stylesheets. It should be quite easy to use a list field and step through 
each named tiddler removing then applying a named tag to the next in the 
list. It could be used to indicate one or more positions in a list,

It would be like using the list for OR rather than AND items.

Such a solution may let us use drag to drag a tag from one tiddler to 
another. More like a tag in the real world.

This would be helpful since so much of TiddlyWiki is driven by tags on 
tiddlers.

Tony

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[Thomas Elmiger]

Ouch! Collision while catching the ball :–)
Ex-volley-ball-player here, Mark. But I have to admit that my VB-level was 
only very amateur-ish, just as my development-skills.
Cheers, Thomas

Am Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2017 23:35:22 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> If you don't mind a selection drop-down and and an activate button.
>
> Obviously potential developers need to do the volley-ball thing and call 
> "mine" if they're doing something.
>
> Mark
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 2:27:32 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> There are so many great programmers here I thought it might be a useful 
>> idea to have a general "Suggestions Box" for stuff that has not been (as 
>> far as I know) been implemented they might be interested in ...
>>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Josiah

This was simply a great idea – and relatively simple to build. I didn’t 
like the cycle though. 
So here’s my Stylesheet Manager: 
http://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html#Stylesheet%20Manager 

Changing the filter at the top (e.g. the search part) allows you to show 
only the Stylesheets you want to juggle with:
 
\define myfilter() 
[tag[$:/tags/Stylesheet]search[vanilla/base]sort[title]]
\end

Have fun!
Thomas

Am Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2017 11:36:29 UTC+2 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> *Suggestion #1: Stylesheet Toggler*
>

[...]

Workings: Simply adds and removes the tag activating stylesheet 
>

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

[@TiddlyTweeter]

*Suggestion #1*

Aim: A button that cycles different CSS stylesheets ($:/tags/Stylesheet)

Workings: Simply adds and removes the tag activating stylesheet through a 
cycle. Each click on the button advancing one. A Data Tiddler holds the 
addresses of styling Tiddlers included in the cycle. 

Benefits: 
1 - Lets users modify layout easily.
2 - Aids CSS design.

Best wishes
Josiah

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