[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[Bob Jansen]

I have been following the discussion on how to provide 360 panoramas 
through Tiddlywiki. The numerous messages so far indicate a work in 
progress.

I have the 360 app from Occipital on my iPhone with which I record 
panoramas. I can then make these viewable through Tiddlywiki using the 
following code in a tiddler.

http://360.io/ffqQK5; width="100%" height="700" 
frameborder="0" style="border:0" allowfullscreen>

This loads up the panorama from the 360 web site through the URL in the SRC 
attribute  and allows display and manipulation through the TW interface. I 
know this is not what is specifically desired but at least it gives a 
reasonable and free workaround whilst we wait for a TW plugin.

Note to the unwary, this does require an Internet connection unless you 
mount the videos locally through something like MAMP and then amend the URL 
as appropriate.

bobj

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Re: [tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[Olegh Bondarenko]

Does not work yet. See screenshot
[image: image.png]
Olegh Bondarenko
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пт, 17 лип. 2020 о 22:34 Siniy-Kit  пише:

>  I make panorama.html and write this instruction for the first version.
> In second version *You can add many anyName.jpg files ,save TW, and all
> of them will become panoramas  .  Test it, don't read instruction *
>
>
>
> четверг, 16 июля 2020 г., 21:35:36 UTC+3 пользователь oleghbond написал:
>>
>> *You can add many anyName.jpg files ,save TW, and all of them will become
>>> panoramas *
>>
>>
>> The latter statement contradicts the instruction from
>> https://heeg.ru/panorama.html and eventually does not work.
>>
>> четвер, 16 липня 2020 р. 20:29:04 UTC+3 користувач Siniy-Kit написав:
>>>
>>> , it is limited to a single panoramic shot having fixed name
 "panorama.jpg".
>>>
>>>
>>> You can add many anyName.jpg files ,save TW, and all of them will become
>>> panoramas
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 12 июля 2020 г., 11:31:14 UTC+3 пользователь oleghbond
>>> написал:

 Dear All,

 there are scarce examples on the topic "*360 panorama galleries and
 tours in Tiddlywiki*". I actually found the only one:

- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/AOWugx5hZ9k

 The given example is impressive, however, it is limited to a single
 panoramic shot having fixed name "panorama.jpg". Neither gallery, nor
 transitions between shots for the tour making.

 At the same time there are plenty of JS plugins/libraries in Internet
 covering this topic.

 Does somebody of the TW community has notion regarding how some of
 these JS plugins/libraries can be implemented in Tiddlywiki?

 I believe it is another promising niche for Tiddlywiki use.

 Olegh

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Re: [tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[Olegh Bondarenko]

It's a bit unexpected to meet several people who are interesting in TW and
360 panorama issues simultaneously. I keep my own TW resourse (meanwhile in
Ukrainian) dedicated to some special application using 360 camera (at the
moment GoPro MAX) -  https://protw.github.io/treemap.

Olegh Bondarenko
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пт, 17 лип. 2020 о 22:01 Scott Kingery  пише:

> Hi Tony,
> I have a One X and they are interesting. It is really a switch in how you
> think about recording video because, as you mentioned, you can reframe your
> shots in post-production.
>
> Naturally, I'm keeping notes to helpful links via Tiddlywiki :) I'm
> producing a static site here:
> https://techlifeweb.com/tiddlywiki/onex/static/Home.html
>
> Scott
>
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 5:16:01 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Folks
>>
>> With 360 degree mentioned in this thread, I just though I would share
>> this, I fell upon this device, I knew nothing about until recently;
>> the INSTA360 One X
>>
>> What I found most interesting was not the production of a single 360x360
>> image, or even a 360 video but the in phone post production on videos to
>> produce a standard format video. Basically you place the camera in a
>> particular location, let the event occur you are filming, and later choose
>> what view point is taken. The recording is aware of the position so you can
>> throw the camera in the air and while it tumbles around the recorded video
>> is stable.
>>
>> This may be a boost to 360 video that it needed.
>>
>>
>>- It would also allow one camera recording of two or more people and
>>again edit after the event, choosing who the camera or in this case the
>>video is pointing at after the event, and according to the content.
>>- With long self sticks you can actually have the stick removed from
>>the image and the result can look like a drone
>>- Whilst I recently obtained a gimble DJI osmo mobile 3 for stability
>>and a lot of other features 360 video's stand to make the hardware all but
>>obsolete in the long run.
>>
>> Very interesting area to explore.
>>
>> Regards
>> TW Tones
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:31:14 PM UTC+10, oleghbond wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> there are scarce examples on the topic "*360 panorama galleries and
>>> tours in Tiddlywiki*". I actually found the only one:
>>>
>>>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/AOWugx5hZ9k
>>>
>>> The given example is impressive, however, it is limited to a single
>>> panoramic shot having fixed name "panorama.jpg". Neither gallery, nor
>>> transitions between shots for the tour making.
>>>
>>> At the same time there are plenty of JS plugins/libraries in Internet
>>> covering this topic.
>>>
>>> Does somebody of the TW community has notion regarding how some of these
>>> JS plugins/libraries can be implemented in Tiddlywiki?
>>>
>>> I believe it is another promising niche for Tiddlywiki use.
>>>
>>> Olegh
>>>
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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[Siniy-Kit]

 I make panorama.html and write this instruction for the first version. 
In second version *You can add many anyName.jpg files ,save TW, and all of 
them will become panoramas  .  Test it, don't read instruction *



четверг, 16 июля 2020 г., 21:35:36 UTC+3 пользователь oleghbond написал:
>
> *You can add many anyName.jpg files ,save TW, and all of them will become 
>> panoramas *
>
>
> The latter statement contradicts the instruction from 
> https://heeg.ru/panorama.html and eventually does not work.
>
> четвер, 16 липня 2020 р. 20:29:04 UTC+3 користувач Siniy-Kit написав:
>>
>> , it is limited to a single panoramic shot having fixed name 
>>> "panorama.jpg".
>>
>>
>> You can add many anyName.jpg files ,save TW, and all of them will become 
>> panoramas 
>>
>> воскресенье, 12 июля 2020 г., 11:31:14 UTC+3 пользователь oleghbond 
>> написал:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> there are scarce examples on the topic "*360 panorama galleries and 
>>> tours in Tiddlywiki*". I actually found the only one:
>>>
>>>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/AOWugx5hZ9k 
>>>
>>> The given example is impressive, however, it is limited to a single 
>>> panoramic shot having fixed name "panorama.jpg". Neither gallery, nor 
>>> transitions between shots for the tour making.
>>>
>>> At the same time there are plenty of JS plugins/libraries in Internet 
>>> covering this topic.
>>>
>>> Does somebody of the TW community has notion regarding how some of these 
>>> JS plugins/libraries can be implemented in Tiddlywiki?
>>>
>>> I believe it is another promising niche for Tiddlywiki use.
>>>
>>> Olegh
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[Scott Kingery]

Hi Tony,
I have a One X and they are interesting. It is really a switch in how you 
think about recording video because, as you mentioned, you can reframe your 
shots in post-production.

Naturally, I'm keeping notes to helpful links via Tiddlywiki :) I'm 
producing a static site here: 
https://techlifeweb.com/tiddlywiki/onex/static/Home.html

Scott

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 5:16:01 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks
>
> With 360 degree mentioned in this thread, I just though I would share 
> this, I fell upon this device, I knew nothing about until recently;
> the INSTA360 One X
>
> What I found most interesting was not the production of a single 360x360 
> image, or even a 360 video but the in phone post production on videos to 
> produce a standard format video. Basically you place the camera in a 
> particular location, let the event occur you are filming, and later choose 
> what view point is taken. The recording is aware of the position so you can 
> throw the camera in the air and while it tumbles around the recorded video 
> is stable.
>
> This may be a boost to 360 video that it needed.
>
>
>- It would also allow one camera recording of two or more people and 
>again edit after the event, choosing who the camera or in this case the 
>video is pointing at after the event, and according to the content.
>- With long self sticks you can actually have the stick removed from 
>the image and the result can look like a drone
>- Whilst I recently obtained a gimble DJI osmo mobile 3 for stability 
>and a lot of other features 360 video's stand to make the hardware all but 
>obsolete in the long run.
>
> Very interesting area to explore.
>
> Regards
> TW Tones
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:31:14 PM UTC+10, oleghbond wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> there are scarce examples on the topic "*360 panorama galleries and 
>> tours in Tiddlywiki*". I actually found the only one:
>>
>>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/AOWugx5hZ9k 
>>
>> The given example is impressive, however, it is limited to a single 
>> panoramic shot having fixed name "panorama.jpg". Neither gallery, nor 
>> transitions between shots for the tour making.
>>
>> At the same time there are plenty of JS plugins/libraries in Internet 
>> covering this topic.
>>
>> Does somebody of the TW community has notion regarding how some of these 
>> JS plugins/libraries can be implemented in Tiddlywiki?
>>
>> I believe it is another promising niche for Tiddlywiki use.
>>
>> Olegh
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[oleghbond]

>
> *You can add many anyName.jpg files ,save TW, and all of them will become 
> panoramas *


The latter statement contradicts the instruction from 
https://heeg.ru/panorama.html and eventually does not work.

четвер, 16 липня 2020 р. 20:29:04 UTC+3 користувач Siniy-Kit написав:
>
> , it is limited to a single panoramic shot having fixed name 
>> "panorama.jpg".
>
>
> You can add many anyName.jpg files ,save TW, and all of them will become 
> panoramas 
>
> воскресенье, 12 июля 2020 г., 11:31:14 UTC+3 пользователь oleghbond 
> написал:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> there are scarce examples on the topic "*360 panorama galleries and 
>> tours in Tiddlywiki*". I actually found the only one:
>>
>>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/AOWugx5hZ9k 
>>
>> The given example is impressive, however, it is limited to a single 
>> panoramic shot having fixed name "panorama.jpg". Neither gallery, nor 
>> transitions between shots for the tour making.
>>
>> At the same time there are plenty of JS plugins/libraries in Internet 
>> covering this topic.
>>
>> Does somebody of the TW community has notion regarding how some of these 
>> JS plugins/libraries can be implemented in Tiddlywiki?
>>
>> I believe it is another promising niche for Tiddlywiki use.
>>
>> Olegh
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[Siniy-Kit]

>
> , it is limited to a single panoramic shot having fixed name 
> "panorama.jpg".


You can add many anyName.jpg files ,save TW, and all of them will become 
panoramas 

воскресенье, 12 июля 2020 г., 11:31:14 UTC+3 пользователь oleghbond написал:
>
> Dear All,
>
> there are scarce examples on the topic "*360 panorama galleries and tours 
> in Tiddlywiki*". I actually found the only one:
>
>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/AOWugx5hZ9k 
>
> The given example is impressive, however, it is limited to a single 
> panoramic shot having fixed name "panorama.jpg". Neither gallery, nor 
> transitions between shots for the tour making.
>
> At the same time there are plenty of JS plugins/libraries in Internet 
> covering this topic.
>
> Does somebody of the TW community has notion regarding how some of these 
> JS plugins/libraries can be implemented in Tiddlywiki?
>
> I believe it is another promising niche for Tiddlywiki use.
>
> Olegh
>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[TW Tones]

Folks

With 360 degree mentioned in this thread, I just though I would share this, 
I fell upon this device, I knew nothing about until recently;
the INSTA360 One X

What I found most interesting was not the production of a single 360x360 
image, or even a 360 video but the in phone post production on videos to 
produce a standard format video. Basically you place the camera in a 
particular location, let the event occur you are filming, and later choose 
what view point is taken. The recording is aware of the position so you can 
throw the camera in the air and while it tumbles around the recorded video 
is stable.

This may be a boost to 360 video that it needed.


   - It would also allow one camera recording of two or more people and 
   again edit after the event, choosing who the camera or in this case the 
   video is pointing at after the event, and according to the content.
   - With long self sticks you can actually have the stick removed from the 
   image and the result can look like a drone
   - Whilst I recently obtained a gimble DJI osmo mobile 3 for stability 
   and a lot of other features 360 video's stand to make the hardware all but 
   obsolete in the long run.

Very interesting area to explore.

Regards
TW Tones




On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 6:31:14 PM UTC+10, oleghbond wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> there are scarce examples on the topic "*360 panorama galleries and tours 
> in Tiddlywiki*". I actually found the only one:
>
>- https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/AOWugx5hZ9k 
>
> The given example is impressive, however, it is limited to a single 
> panoramic shot having fixed name "panorama.jpg". Neither gallery, nor 
> transitions between shots for the tour making.
>
> At the same time there are plenty of JS plugins/libraries in Internet 
> covering this topic.
>
> Does somebody of the TW community has notion regarding how some of these 
> JS plugins/libraries can be implemented in Tiddlywiki?
>
> I believe it is another promising niche for Tiddlywiki use.
>
> Olegh
>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[oleghbond]

David, thanks a lot,

it's amazing how many useful stuff can be found in personal stocks of 
everyone of us, and vise versa, much less in open internet. 

In both references mentioned above in this discussion 
http://heeg.ru/panorama.html and 
https://ooktech.com/jed/360stills/gallery.html all the photos are 
controlled completely by a web resource creator. Whereas your very neat and 
tidy example is based on TW (that is exactly what I asked about), but 
references to GSV (external Google panoramic file service).

My primary idea and corresponding request were about a personally 
controllable panorama gallery, which is usually acceptable by members of 
the TW community.

I'd be grateful for any other relevant alternative approach.

Olegh

неділя, 12 липня 2020 р. 16:01:10 UTC+3 користувач David Gifford написав:
>
> This is something I did in 2018 for myself: 
>
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 7:34:31 AM UTC-5 oleghbond wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot, Birthe,
>>
>> that's the simple yet effective thing. Although it looks like a static 
>> solution made outside the TW environment. 
>>
>> As I mentioned in the topic title the capability to manage "360 panorama 
>> galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki" would be of much higher interest for the 
>> TW community.
>>
>> It's quite possible that such an html-code could be generated by (or 
>> using) TW in node.js. However, so far it is not clear.
>>
>> Are there some other alternatives?
>>
>> Olegh
>>
>> неділя, 12 липня 2020 р. 12:07:34 UTC+3 користувач Birthe C написав:
>>
>>> Are you looking for this: https://ooktech.com/jed/360stills/gallery.html 
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[oleghbond]

Thanks a lot, Birthe,

that's the simple yet effective thing. Although it looks like a static 
solution made outside the TW environment. 

As I mentioned in the topic title the capability to manage "360 panorama 
galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki" would be of much higher interest for the 
TW community.

It's quite possible that such an html-code could be generated by (or using) 
TW in node.js. However, so far it is not clear.

Are there some other alternatives?

Olegh

неділя, 12 липня 2020 р. 12:07:34 UTC+3 користувач Birthe C написав:
>
> Are you looking for this: https://ooktech.com/jed/360stills/gallery.html 
>
> Birthe
>
>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[Birthe C]

Are you looking for this: https://ooktech.com/jed/360stills/gallery.html 

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[oleghbond]

Dear Jed, 

I'd be grateful on behalf of the whole TW community.

Look forward...

Olegh

неділя, 12 липня 2020 р. 11:37:32 UTC+3 користувач Jed Carty написав:
>
> I made a prototype 360 image and video viewer that worked in tiddlywiki to 
> show off images and video from Robbie around Paris, I will see if I can 
> find them in the huge mess that is my development archive.
>

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[tw5] Re: 360 panorama galleries and tours in Tiddlywiki

[Jed Carty]

I made a prototype 360 image and video viewer that worked in tiddlywiki to 
show off images and video from Robbie around Paris, I will see if I can 
find them in the huge mess that is my development archive.

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