[tw5] Re: Can I save tiddlywiki without re-downloading it?

2022-05-04 Thread PMario
Welcome to the club ;) !

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 5:03:40 PM UTC+2 sugamka...@gmail.com wrote:

> I started using tiddlywiki maybe two hours ago. Its nice but is there any 
> way to save the wiki without redownloading it?


You can download an empty wiki and then start it from your file-system. ... 
Saving changes can be done in the way Eric described. 
 

> I don't want to use any cloud. I want to encrypt it and push it to my 
> github repo.
>

Just to be sure. 

Be aware, that your repo can become huge, depending on how often you commit 
changes to it. ... For an encrypted wiki, if you change 1 character, 
basically the whole wiki content will be encrypted and it will be different 
to the version before. ... 

Git ususally only saves text diffs to the repo. Since it is designed to be 
used with source code text, those diffs will be small most of the time. 

If your content is encrypted it will be the full size of the whole content. 
Sice everything will be different if changed and encrypted. 
 

> Sorry if this question has been asked before.
>

No problem! 

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[tw5] Re: Can I save tiddlywiki without re-downloading it?

2022-05-03 Thread Eric Shulman
The default TiddlyWiki saver uses the browser's built-in "download a file" 
process, which includes general security handling to prevent unwanted 
"stealth payloads" from being installed on your system.  One major 
advantage of the "download saver" is that it doesn't require any special 
setup.  This makes it possible to save TiddlyWiki on almost all modern 
browsers, as long as they permit downloading.  Note that in this instance, 
"downloading" also applies when you are viewing a locally-stored TiddlyWiki 
that is already on your computer.

The download saver is also useful because it usually can be configured in 
your browser's settings so that it will always ask you choose where to save 
the file instead of using the default "Downloads" folder location.  When 
the "file/folder chooser" dialog is displayed, if the target filename 
already exists then a number (e.g., "(1)") is automatically added to the 
end of the target filename.  This allows you to ensure that you don't 
unintentionally overwrite your existing TiddlyWiki file without some kind 
of user interaction.  Of course, you can always select the existing 
filename if you ***DO*** want to overwrite it.

This interactive process also makes it easy to save temporary "checkpoint" 
files while you are working.  For example, during a long editing session, 
if I suspect that something I just wrote might "brick" the running 
TiddlyWiki or otherwise corrupt my tiddler content, I will invoke the 
download saver and confirm the save with an auto-numbered filename like 
"myfile.html (1)", "myfile.html (2)", etc...  This can even be triggered 
before I press the "done" button on the tiddler I am currently editing, so 
that there is no chance for my changes to break something.  Then, once the 
current state of my TiddlyWiki is safely saved to disk, I'll press "done" 
to accept the tiddler changes and then proceed to try my new code (usually 
by pressing a button widget to invoke some actions).  If everything goes 
OK, I just continue working.  However, if something goes horribly wrong, I 
can always re-load from my last saved checkpoint file, which still has the 
errant tiddler in "edit mode", so I can hopefully fix my code and try again.

When I am finally satisfied that all my changes are good, I can then invoke 
the download saver again, but this time I select the existing TiddlyWiki 
file so that it is overwritten.  I can then continue working, secure in the 
knowledge that everything is saved as I want it to be.  When I am 
completely done with my work session, I will then go to my system's file 
manager to select and delete all the "checkpoint" files.  If I am being 
extra cautious, I can just move those files to another folder, so that if I 
later discover some previously unnoticed bug in my code (gasp!), I can load 
the old checkpoints one at a time to determine when the errant behavior 
first appeared, and then use a "diff" utility to compare versions and 
identify any suspect changes.

HOWEVER...  having said all that...

Some people find the download saver process to be overly burdensome, and 
prefer a "file save" process that doesn't require any interaction and 
always overwrites the current TiddlyWiki file.  To this end, there are 
numerous add-ons that enable this kind of direct file saving.  Some of 
these add-ons are browser-specific extensions, while others are separate 
"helper" applications that you can install on your system.  
See https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted and select the appropriate "OS" 
and "Browser" checkboxes for more details.

Hope this helps...

enjoy,
-e
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-7 sugamka...@gmail.com wrote:

> I started using tiddlywiki maybe two hours ago. Its nice but is there any 
> way to save the wiki without redownloading it? I am using edge and am on 
> fedora os. 
>
> I don't want to use any cloud. I want to encrypt it and push it to my 
> github repo.
>
> Sorry if this question has been asked before.
>

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[tw5] Re: Can I save tiddlywiki without re-downloading it?

2022-05-03 Thread TiddlyTweeter
" Its nice but is there any way to save the wiki without redownloading it?"

Yes. Without download it restructures itself on "Save" (generally). 
BUT IF you want an actual file  to reload later you will need to save it to 
disk at some point otherwise it will evaporate if you close the browser.

TT

On Tuesday, 3 May 2022 at 17:03:40 UTC+2 sugamka...@gmail.com wrote:

> I started using tiddlywiki maybe two hours ago. Its nice but is there any 
> way to save the wiki without redownloading it? I am using edge and am on 
> fedora os. 
>
> I don't want to use any cloud. I want to encrypt it and push it to my 
> github repo.
>
> Sorry if this question has been asked before.
>

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