[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

Thanks! I was hoping it was that simple. I am good to go.

Damon


On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 9:15:03 PM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> you ca add a sort operator 
> .
>   
>
>
> -m
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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[PMario]

hi,

you ca add a sort operator 
.
  


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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

Alright, I've finally figured it out and I feel fairly inept because of it. 
The filter was working the entire time. I was expecting the combined search 
to be completely alphabetical when, in fact, they two search results were 
one right after the other. The results were there, just not sorted the way 
I expected them to be. Each individual search was alphabetic, but were not 
combined alphabetically. Is there a way to make the overall results 
combined alphabetically?

Thanks,

Damon

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 11:13:25 PM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 8:51:56 AM UTC+2, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>  
>
>> Atchison Electric Motor & Street Railway
>> Atchison Electric Street Railway
>> Atchison Railway & Electric Light Company
>> Atchison Railway, Electric Light & Power Company
>>
>> Now when I do this search: [search:title[Electric]] 
>> [search:title[Street]], I only get the following:
>>
>> Atchison Railway & Electric Light Company
>> Atchison Railway, Electric Light & Power Company
>>
>>
> I did test this with tiddlywiki.com and it works as expected.  
>
> So did you include plugins that mess with, or add new filter operators??
>
> -m
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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[PMario]

On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 8:51:56 AM UTC+2, Damon Pritchett wrote:
 

> Atchison Electric Motor & Street Railway
> Atchison Electric Street Railway
> Atchison Railway & Electric Light Company
> Atchison Railway, Electric Light & Power Company
>
> Now when I do this search: [search:title[Electric]] 
> [search:title[Street]], I only get the following:
>
> Atchison Railway & Electric Light Company
> Atchison Railway, Electric Light & Power Company
>
>
I did test this with tiddlywiki.com and it works as expected.  

So did you include plugins that mess with, or add new filter operators??

-m

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Re: [tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

Hey all,

I've given up trying to figure out what's wrong, so I want to start afresh 
with a new blank Tiddlywiki file. What is the best way to make sure I get 
all of my content over to the new file without the plugins & 
customizations?  Can I just export everything from the old file and import 
all into the new file? Is bundler better suited for this?

Many thanks,

Damon

On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 2:11:09 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Thanks, Mat
>
> Did that and reverted a shadow tiddler that $:/config/manager/filter which 
> was the most obvious one to try and that didn't change anything. From the 
> search, there are 54 modified shadow tiddlers, but none of the others are 
> obvious ones to try. Here's the list:
>
>
> $:/config/AnimationDuration
> $:/config/DefaultMoreSidebarTab
> $:/config/DefaultSidebarTab
>
> $:/config/EditorToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/heading-4
>
> $:/config/EditorToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/heading-5
>
> $:/config/EditorToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/heading-6
> $:/config/EditorTypeMappings/text/vnd.tiddlywiki
> $:/config/Manager/System
> $:/config/Navigation/openLinkFromInsideRiver
> $:/config/Navigation/openLinkFromOutsideRiver
> $:/config/Navigation/UpdateAddressBar
> $:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/advanced-search
> $:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/fold-all
> $:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/home
> $:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/refresh
> $:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/storyview
> $:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/tag-manager
> $:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/unfold-all
> $:/config/Performance/Instrumentation
> $:/config/Tiddlers/TitleLinks
> $:/config/Toolbar/ButtonClass
> $:/config/Toolbar/Icons
> $:/config/Toolbar/Text
> $:/config/ViewToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-here
> $:/config/WikiParserRules/Inline/wikilink
> $:/core/ui/TextEditorToolbar/indent
> $:/DefaultTiddlers
> $:/palette
> $:/palettes/Blanca
> $:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/config
> $:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/examples
> $:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/usage
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/comments/footer-view-template-segment
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/comments/header-view-template-segment
> $:/SiteSubtitle
> $:/SiteTitle
> $:/state/showeditpreview
> $:/tags/SideBar
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate
> $:/temp/advancedsearch
> $:/temp/search
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/bodyfontsize
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/bodylineheight
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarwidth
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/codewrapping
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/stickytitles
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/settings/codefontfamily
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/settings/fontfamily
> $:/view
>
> On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>>
>> search for shadow tiddlers that have been modified?
>>>
>>
>> Ctrlpanel > first tab > first tab - at very bottom, klick search icon 
>> seen there
>>
>> <:-)
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

Thanks, Mat

Did that and reverted a shadow tiddler that $:/config/manager/filter which 
was the most obvious one to try and that didn't change anything. From the 
search, there are 54 modified shadow tiddlers, but none of the others are 
obvious ones to try. Here's the list:


$:/config/AnimationDuration 

$:/config/DefaultMoreSidebarTab 

$:/config/DefaultSidebarTab 

$:/config/EditorToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/heading-4 

$:/config/EditorToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/heading-5 

$:/config/EditorToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/heading-6 

$:/config/EditorTypeMappings/text/vnd.tiddlywiki 

$:/config/Manager/System 

$:/config/Navigation/openLinkFromInsideRiver 

$:/config/Navigation/openLinkFromOutsideRiver 

$:/config/Navigation/UpdateAddressBar 

$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/advanced-search 

$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/fold-all 

$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/home 

$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/refresh 

$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/storyview 

$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/tag-manager 

$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/unfold-all 

$:/config/Performance/Instrumentation 

$:/config/Tiddlers/TitleLinks 

$:/config/Toolbar/ButtonClass 

$:/config/Toolbar/Icons 

$:/config/Toolbar/Text 

$:/config/ViewToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-here 

$:/config/WikiParserRules/Inline/wikilink 

$:/core/ui/TextEditorToolbar/indent 

$:/DefaultTiddlers 

$:/palette 

$:/palettes/Blanca 

$:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/config 

$:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/examples 

$:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/usage 

$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/comments/footer-view-template-segment 

$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/comments/header-view-template-segment 

$:/SiteSubtitle 

$:/SiteTitle 

$:/state/showeditpreview 

$:/tags/SideBar 

$:/tags/ViewTemplate 

$:/temp/advancedsearch 

$:/temp/search 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/bodyfontsize 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/bodylineheight 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarwidth 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/codewrapping 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/stickytitles 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/settings/codefontfamily 

$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/settings/fontfamily 

$:/view 


On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> search for shadow tiddlers that have been modified?
>>
>
> Ctrlpanel > first tab > first tab - at very bottom, klick search icon seen 
> there
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Mat]

>
> search for shadow tiddlers that have been modified?
>

Ctrlpanel > first tab > first tab - at very bottom, klick search icon seen 
there

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

Disabled all plugins, saved (as new name) and reloaded and the same thing 
happens so it doesn't appear to be one of the plugins. Is there a way to 
search for shadow tiddlers that have been modified?

Damon


On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 11:33:29 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> You could disable the plugins, save, reload, and then see if the filter 
> works correctly.
>
> On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 10:45:02 AM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>
>> I just tried it on Tiddlywiki by importing the tiddlers in question and 
>> then doing the filter search. It all worked as you all described and 
>> expected. So there's definitely something in my TW that is the problem. 
>> Could there be a shadow tiddler that has been overwritten? Maybe a plugin 
>> is doing it? The plugins I have installed are:
>>
>> * Comments
>> * Indents
>> * edit-comptext
>> * tidgraph
>> * refnotes
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Damon
>>
>> On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 12:44:15 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 9:36:57 AM UTC+2, Damon Pritchett wrote:

 I wish I were but I don’t get the same results. What might be the 
 difference?

>>>
>>> Did you try it on tiddlywiki.com ?
>>>
>>> <:-) 
>>>
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

I just tried it on Tiddlywiki by importing the tiddlers in question and 
then doing the filter search. It all worked as you all described and 
expected. So there's definitely something in my TW that is the problem. 
Could there be a shadow tiddler that has been overwritten? Maybe a plugin 
is doing it? The plugins I have installed are:

* Comments
* Indents
* edit-comptext
* tidgraph
* refnotes

Thanks again,

Damon

On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 12:44:15 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 9:36:57 AM UTC+2, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>
>> I wish I were but I don’t get the same results. What might be the 
>> difference?
>>
>
> Did you try it on tiddlywiki.com ?
>
> <:-) 
>

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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

Well then somethings up because I don't see exactly what I'd expect based 
on what you all just said. Here are some screen shots from my actual TW 
with two different searches. The first one is what I would expect, but the 
second one is not. What am I missing?


[image: Annotation 2019-05-25 233747.png]


[image: Annotation 2019-05-25 233827.png]






On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 7:19:14 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Aha, I now understand what the other guys meant. They're right; what you 
> claim is XOR isnt and your examples should actually fulfill what it is 
> you're seeking. As Jed points out, regexp doesn't change anything. (Thanks 
> Jed)
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

Something is amiss in my TW then, because I don't quite get those results. 
Attached are a couple of screen shots of searches. One is as expected (only 
searching on Electric, but when I add Street to it, two of the entries 
disappear when they shouldn't.  What am I missing?

Thanks,

Damon

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 7:19:14 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Aha, I now understand what the other guys meant. They're right; what you 
> claim is XOR isnt and your examples should actually fulfill what it is 
> you're seeking. As Jed points out, regexp doesn't change anything. (Thanks 
> Jed)
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Mat]

On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 9:36:57 AM UTC+2, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> I wish I were but I don’t get the same results. What might be the 
> difference?
>

Did you try it on tiddlywiki.com ?

<:-) 

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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

I wish I were but I don’t get the results you did. What might I be doing wrong?

Damon

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Re: [tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

I wish I were but I don’t get the same results. What might be the
difference?

Damon

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 12:34 AM Mat  wrote:

> Nope, you're wrong ;-) ;-)
>
> [image: tabort2.PNG]
>
>
> ...and in tiddler
>
> [image: tabort.PNG]
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Mat]

Nope, you're wrong ;-) ;-)

[image: tabort2.PNG]


...and in tiddler

[image: tabort.PNG]
<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Damon Pritchett]

All, 

I've tried attaching some screen shots of what I'm seeing, but the messages 
keep getting deleted.

I'll try to explain. My TW has a bunch of companies as individual tiddlers. 
When I perform the search [search:title[Electric]] in the filter expression 
tab of advanced search, I get the following:

Atchison Electric Motor & Street Railway
Atchison Electric Street Railway
Atchison Railway & Electric Light Company
Atchison Railway, Electric Light & Power Company

Now when I do this search: [search:title[Electric]] [search:title[Street]], 
I only get the following:

Atchison Railway & Electric Light Company
Atchison Railway, Electric Light & Power Company

The other two companies disappear which I wouldn't expect. What am I 
missing? Does do the filter in the advanced search behave differently than 
within a tiddler (which I haven't tried yet)?

Thanks,

Damon

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 7:19:14 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Aha, I now understand what the other guys meant. They're right; what you 
> claim is XOR isnt and your examples should actually fulfill what it is 
> you're seeking. As Jed points out, regexp doesn't change anything. (Thanks 
> Jed)
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Mat]

Aha, I now understand what the other guys meant. They're right; what you 
claim is XOR isnt and your examples should actually fulfill what it is 
you're seeking. As Jed points out, regexp doesn't change anything. (Thanks 
Jed)

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Jed Carty]

The example I did isn't an exclusive or, check it out on tiddlywiki.com. I 
don't see how using regexp changes anything here.

Exclusive or is not a simple thing to do directly with filters.

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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Mat]

Contrary to the other guys, I think your question is correct. You want OR 
not XOR and you're only talking about titles.

I think the regexp  
operator is the secret sauce; [regexp[vegetarian]] [regexp[pasta]]

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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[TonyM]

As Jed says.

Also you may need to recall that the filter reduces the list to have no 
duplicate title. So a tiddler will not appear twice if it has both tags, 
only once.

Let us know if you want differently.

tony

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 3:05:26 PM UTC+10, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> I'm trying to do a filter where I'm doing a search of tiddler titles 
> looking for this word or that word in the title. For example, let's say I 
> have a number of tiddlers with the word vegetarian in it and another group 
> with the word pasta in it. I want to find all tiddlers that have either of 
> those words in the title even if the title contains both. I tried the 
> examples on the Introduction to filter notation page (
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Introduction%20to%20filter%20notation), but so 
> far when I do the following:
>
> [search:title[vegetarian]] [search:title[pasta]] 
>
> I get only the titles that have pasta or vegetarian in them. The titles 
> that have both vegetarian and pasta in it do not get listed.
>
> What is the secret sauce for having a true or and not an exclusive or?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon
>

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[tw5] Re: Filtering an "or" condition

[Jed Carty]

That filter isn't an exclusive or. If you go onto tiddlywiki.com and put

{{{[search:title[vegetarian]] [search:title[pasta]] }}}

into a tiddler then make tiddlers called 'Vegetarian Pasta', 'Vegetarian' 
and 'Pasta' all there appear in the list.

So whatever the problem is, the or part of the filter isn't it.

Is there any more information you can give us?

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