[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-20 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Mario

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 12:18:10 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> hi,  
>
> The PR contains a user facing "exclude" parameter.  
>
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-20 Thread PMario
hi,  

The PR contains a user facing "exclude" parameter.  

-m

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-19 Thread Mohammad
Mario,
 Based on the Jeremy announcement 
here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/X7pZkPLc_Xg/OWMovlRTAgAJ
It seems TW 5.1.20 soon will be released. I am asking to see if it is 
possible to have the exclude parameter working for TOC macro
as explained here: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3975

--Mohammad

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 1:42:57 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad, 
>
> I did add a "fix toc" pull request [1], last week. This PR also contains a 
> very little (but extremely powerful) new feature, that will let us 
> highlight a so called "focused-tiddler". .. 
>
> This focused tiddler can be different to the current-tiddler element of 
> the $:/HistoryList. It will allow us to eg: style the focused tiddler 
> border. In the future, it will be easy to make focus changes visible. ... 
>
> With the PR the focused tiddler status is used to highlight the "current" 
> element in the sidebar TOC. .. With a plugin, this behaviour can be 
> extended. So if an open tiddler reaches the eg: upper 1/3 of the screen, 
> the focused-tiddler field will be updated, in the TOC. So you can see, 
> which tiddler is "active" at the moment. 
>
> I did release a video about the TOC refactoring some time ago. .. The 
> behaviour described above can be seen  
> from about: 3:20 - 4:40.  
>
> The plugin _is not_ part of the PR. It will be published at wikilabs, once 
> the PR is merged. I hope, it will be merged and published with 5.1.20. ... 
>
> The PR still contains a glitch, that I have to fix, this week, since I've 
> been on holidays last week :)
>
> The full video [2] also demonstrates some functions, that I did remove 
> from the PR, to increase the chance to get the PR merged. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> [1] the PR: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3975
> [2] the full Video about TOC refactoring status: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaevaODdKyA
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-17 Thread PMario
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 11:55:29 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
..

> "Focus tiddler" button could be a good name because I think once we have 
> the ability to have a focused tiddler people will innovate around that. For 
> example they may make a sidebar tab that lists the focused tiddlers fields 
> or references and backlinks. Or a quick edit view etc.


This should be relatively easy to implement. ... The mechanism is similar 
to the "HotZone" plugin from tiddlymap. ... But the implementation is 
"simpler", since it only uses existing TW core functions. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-17 Thread PMario
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 8:11:39 PM UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
... 

> I also hope this also simplify the story and history mechanism.
>

I'm not sure about this one. ... It doesn't change any mechanisms. At the 
moment, it only uses mechanisms that already exist in TW, which are "kind 
of hidden" at the moment. 

But the idea is, .. in the future .., to have a simple mechanism to deal 
with several story-rivers. There has been a proposal at github 
some time ago, which 
goes into the same direction. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-17 Thread TonyM
Post script

Having a focus tiddler button will allow it to be used in lists so I wonder if 
an action focus tiddler would be helpful?

tony

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-17 Thread TonyM
Mario

"Focus tiddler" button could be a good name because I think once we have the 
ability to have a focused tiddler people will innovate around that. For example 
they may make a sidebar tab that lists the focused tiddlers fields or 
references and backlinks. Or a quick edit view etc.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-17 Thread Mohammad
Many thanks Mario,
 This is great and I am really looking forward to have this excellent 
feature in TW 5.1.20.

I also hope this also simplify the story and history mechanism.

Best
Mohammad



On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 1:42:57 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad, 
>
> I did add a "fix toc" pull request [1], last week. This PR also contains a 
> very little (but extremely powerful) new feature, that will let us 
> highlight a so called "focused-tiddler". .. 
>
> This focused tiddler can be different to the current-tiddler element of 
> the $:/HistoryList. It will allow us to eg: style the focused tiddler 
> border. In the future, it will be easy to make focus changes visible. ... 
>
> With the PR the focused tiddler status is used to highlight the "current" 
> element in the sidebar TOC. .. With a plugin, this behaviour can be 
> extended. So if an open tiddler reaches the eg: upper 1/3 of the screen, 
> the focused-tiddler field will be updated, in the TOC. So you can see, 
> which tiddler is "active" at the moment. 
>
> I did release a video about the TOC refactoring some time ago. .. The 
> behaviour described above can be seen  
> from about: 3:20 - 4:40.  
>
> The plugin _is not_ part of the PR. It will be published at wikilabs, once 
> the PR is merged. I hope, it will be merged and published with 5.1.20. ... 
>
> The PR still contains a glitch, that I have to fix, this week, since I've 
> been on holidays last week :)
>
> The full video [2] also demonstrates some functions, that I did remove 
> from the PR, to increase the chance to get the PR merged. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> [1] the PR: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3975
> [2] the full Video about TOC refactoring status: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaevaODdKyA
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-17 Thread PMario
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 4:25:02 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 11:56:24 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
> ...
>
>> I am really looking forward to a focused tiddler. will be able to somehow 
>> add the ability click on a tiddler in the story view to cause it to be 
>> focused or only from such a toc.
>>
>> great addition
>>
>
> The idea is to have a 2 way communication between the TOC and the story. 
> BUT ... The TW tagging has to be simplified first. I did already check, 
> what needs to be done. .. It isn't that hard. Just manually remove some 
> tags, to make the toc-structure "unique". That's it.  So it should be 
> enough, to change the doc-tiddlers a little bit. 
>

I'm not 100% sure if the "focused-tiddler" plugin is able to handle the 
full 2 way communication, or if we need a button in the ViewTemplate. ... 
Something like "Show in TOC". 

For big and nested TOCs it may be a problem, if it has to do the 
"open/close" logic in a fast pace, on story scroll. At the moment the 
focused-tiddler logic waits 100ms, to be sure the user stopped scrolling. 
Then it updates the focused-tiddler history field. The rest is done by TW 
and it's "on-change" redraw magic. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-17 Thread PMario
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 11:56:24 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
...

> I am really looking forward to a focused tiddler. will be able to somehow 
> add the ability click on a tiddler in the story view to cause it to be 
> focused or only from such a toc.
>
> great addition
>

The idea is to have a 2 way communication between the TOC and the story. 
BUT ... The TW tagging has to be simplified first. I did already check, 
what needs to be done. .. It isn't that hard. Just manually remove some 
tags, to make the toc-structure "unique". That's it.  So it should be 
enough, to change the doc-tiddlers a little bit. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-17 Thread TonyM
Mario

I am really looking forward to a focused tiddler. will be able to somehow add 
the ability click on a tiddler in the story view to cause it to be focused or 
only from such a toc.

great addition
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-17 Thread PMario
Hi Mohammad, 

I did add a "fix toc" pull request [1], last week. This PR also contains a 
very little (but extremely powerful) new feature, that will let us 
highlight a so called "focused-tiddler". .. 

This focused tiddler can be different to the current-tiddler element of the 
$:/HistoryList. It will allow us to eg: style the focused tiddler border. 
In the future, it will be easy to make focus changes visible. ... 

With the PR the focused tiddler status is used to highlight the "current" 
element in the sidebar TOC. .. With a plugin, this behaviour can be 
extended. So if an open tiddler reaches the eg: upper 1/3 of the screen, 
the focused-tiddler field will be updated, in the TOC. So you can see, 
which tiddler is "active" at the moment. 

I did release a video about the TOC refactoring some time ago. .. The 
behaviour described above can be seen  
from about: 3:20 - 4:40.  

The plugin _is not_ part of the PR. It will be published at wikilabs, once 
the PR is merged. I hope, it will be merged and published with 5.1.20. ... 

The PR still contains a glitch, that I have to fix, this week, since I've 
been on holidays last week :)

The full video [2] also demonstrates some functions, that I did remove from 
the PR, to increase the chance to get the PR merged. 

have fun!
mario

[1] the PR: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3975
[2] the full Video about TOC refactoring status: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaevaODdKyA


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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-16 Thread Mohammad
Mat!

 If you create three empty tiddlers in tiddlywiki.com and close all others! 
Then if you clicked on a tittle its tiddler is in the middle you will not 
get any change on the screen!
So, while I KNOW some code is running at the behind, there is no visual 
reaction from TW! This may cause confusion!

What you said is true for* those tids cross the top and bottom screen 
borders*! They will come into focus!
--Mohammad



On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 7:13:34 PM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> if you click on a link points to one of these tiddler, TW
>> will not do anything as that tiddler is on screen!
>>
>
> This is not correct. It will scroll the tiddler to the top edge of the 
> screen BUT not if the clicked at titles are at the bottom of the river so 
> that they cant scroll up without leaving an empty gap beneath them. If you 
> need that also the bottom most tids actually align with the top edge then 
> you can use Felix Hayashis TopStoryView found in, among other places, his 
> TiddlyMap site. That plugin had some additional benefits before whihc have 
> since been integrated in native TW so it is now more or less outdated 
> except for this matter you bring up.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Navigation Issue: Small tiddlers all on the screen

2019-06-16 Thread Mat

>
> if you click on a link points to one of these tiddler, TW
> will not do anything as that tiddler is on screen!
>

This is not correct. It will scroll the tiddler to the top edge of the 
screen BUT not if the clicked at titles are at the bottom of the river so 
that they cant scroll up without leaving an empty gap beneath them. If you 
need that also the bottom most tids actually align with the top edge then 
you can use Felix Hayashis TopStoryView found in, among other places, his 
TiddlyMap site. That plugin had some additional benefits before whihc have 
since been integrated in native TW so it is now more or less outdated 
except for this matter you bring up.

<:-)

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