Once again Android is making me alter plans. I'm back to saving to an external
(not private) dir. This time it will be a
subdir of a documents folder. I don't know if it will be on the actual external
drive or not. One feature of this
arrangement is that any files added to the directory will be
Quinoid is the OS, List is the start menu, TW is the GUI, plugins are the apps?
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It occurred to me that if you had a configuration directory, with setup
files and icons, you could essentially make your own TW-driven app.
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On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:11:50 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> Ciao Mark S.
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> This is *not* a request for you to do anything.
Ciao Mark S.
This is *not* a request for you to do anything. Just thinking out-load.
The mechanism to "fetch" and auto-install a wiki is great (currently
"Download Test").
What I'm wondering is if a user like me can configure a version of the tool
so it can fetch a TW I set-up?
Use Case: I'm
Mark,
If it is possible to use the import mechanism as the destination of a share
to a wiki, it may result in more possibilities. ctrl-V acts like a drop on
Tiddlywiki and generates an untitled import from the clipboard. If a json
or tid file were pasted perhaps it would allow import. I same
Mark,
My data plan is faster than Wifi and I normally have no complaints, However
on Wifi for my test , and just entering tiddlywiki.com/empty now seems to
take forever. I will see if I can get better performance and retest.
Empty files open OK on my desktop, znd in the mobile FireFox
The
Fantastic! If there's anything useful I can contribute say the word.
Tiddlyclip did actually use exactly that 'designated shared wiki' method.
Called it docking.
Thanks again for the perseverance!
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So I think I've decided on a design direction. I'm going to give up on
downloading to external drives, since Android doesn't want to give me
accurate information about them. Instead downloads will go to an internal
app directory. Because they're internal, it will be possible to scan them
at
Since its limited. Since you have to fit in.
I think "Documents" is better than "Download" as the parent category.
TW working is a document in Androidville.
Just IMO
J.
On Monday, 18 February 2019 19:10:20 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
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> Well, they need to be some place that Q can write to. There's
I don't blame you, hope I didn't sound too intents! If you get a chance have a
look at Orgzly, and try and share some text into it.
I appreciate how much work you've already done on Quinoid, I use it and aTW
daily so thanks a lot!
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It would need to send to a previously designated TW and/or tiddler. Having
to select from a list of TW's and/or tiddlers would interfere with one's
concentration, I imagine (or maybe I'm just avoiding the work of writing
all those dialogs ;-) ).
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"What sort of apps would use Q's internal files?"
All of them potentially, but I think I may have explained it badly. It's not
Q's internal files but the wiki files that 'intents' would target.
'All' I'm talking about is the ability to 'share...' to a wiki in Quinoid.
It already works sharing
Just a footnote, I hope is practical.
*Decide your base Android version. Then look at typical memory on actual
phones that run it.*
TBH on the Andy 8 I am on ... "external" stores are for backup, not
running. I'd need another 20 bloated TW to start worrying internally.
Just a thought
Josiah
Well, they need to be some place that Q can write to. There's only certain
places (libraries) that Android will help the developer find -- for
Documents, Download, Images, Music. The days of the Wild West, write
anywhere are over. Unless you root your device, of course. Is there
somewhere in
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> 2 -- do I need to NOT have "Download" on "internal" (currently,
> /storage/emulated/0/Download/)
That's a good question. I may be fighting someone else's (or some other
times') war. The only reason to not use the internal Download is space. But
TW files are small in the great scope of
Quick note regarding paths.
Once Quinoid is up and running can it decide its own default paths?
"Download" is fine for starting but auto-downloads from within Quinoid,
once running, do they HAVE to be in a Downloads sub-dir?
Just wondering
Josiah
Mark S. wrote:
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> Probably
The path root to my "external" is ... "/storage/8806-1BFD"
TBH I get lost in a forest of NO drive identifiers on my internal and
external.
I will keep on probing.
J.
Mark S. wrote:
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> Well, darn. I pulled every knob Android gave me hoping for the files to
> end up on the external drive
What sort of apps would use Q's internal files? I can't think of anything
other than browsers. How would other apps use Q's internal files?
Going the other way, when Q gets a file on GDrive, it's actually using the
internal sharing.
My original goal was to have Q access external files the way
For me the specific 'intent' I'm interested in is the ability to 'share..'
something e.g selected text, from any android app to a Quinoid housed wiki (or
vice versa).
Orgzly is an example of an app that receives and broadcasts 'shares'. It
receives to what it calls notebooks and offers a
There is Whole (off-topic) world in that subject. The main issue is stuff
gets so very obscured. Protection at the price of deepening Obscurity?
Something seems wrong!
On Monday, 18 February 2019 15:59:18 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
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> I find LE to be more logical too, but unfortunately this doesn't
Well, darn. I pulled every knob Android gave me hoping for the files to end
up on the external drive where I figure most people have more space. Do you
know if you have a download folder on your external drive? That is, where
does Firefox download its files? Google doesn't just want to limit
I find LE to be more logical too, but unfortunately this doesn't seem to be
the future for Android (or any platform, actually). Everything is about
security, and with each upgrade they've found some new way to tighten
things up. In the new paradigm, apps talk to apps only after getting
Thanks for your feedback!
I'm not sure what you mean by "intents".
Thanks!
-- Mark
On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 5:34:43 AM UTC-8, Watt wrote:
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> Hope this helps. Do you think 'intents' will ever be doable? There is an
> app in playstore called Orgzly which might give some ideas on
Mark S.
I have "external" storage .. i.e. plugin SD card that is discontinuous with
internal storage.
Empty downloaded (Download test) in seconds into
"/storage/emulated/0/Download/TW-files" on INTERNAL storage.
Auto-installed in Quinoid.
Loaded fine.
Let me check pathing on "external"
Mark S.
I reply in bits (from Andy 8-zero-zero).
I notice that Local Explorer is now deprecated?
Is this because future Android may dump it?
Personally I find it more logical and sensible than the other method that
is "picture" driven.
Josiah
Mark S. wrote:
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> Probably
Hi Mark
quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a on Android 7
Installs ok.
Opens, no location permissions requested.
Used the experimental 'Download empty' option - worked.
Fast download on wifi.
It didn't save to sdcard. It created a new folder 'TW-files' in internal
storage and saved the timestamped
Hi Tony,
Are you on a data plan or WiFi? When you normally open tiddlywiki.com/empty
in your browser, how long does it take?
I'm wondering if some combination of a data plan and/or your remoteness
from the main TW site may slow things down enough that the items don't
immediately appear on
Mark,
Reviewing now quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a on Android 8.0.0
Selecting Download tesat had no feedback so I soon had 2 downloading in the
background. Canceled one in the download manager, it is slow (but thats ok).
Found in the internal memory Download TW-files two empty files
Probably quinoid-v0-0-6-190217a.apk deserves to be in it's own release, but
there's a lot that isn't settled yet. It has a new look, with "System
Explorer" now activated through the "+" icon and "File Explorer" activated
though the overflow menu. On the new overflow menu is also a download
Quick note.
All working well. So, thanks again.
Only difference on install was that Android (8.0.0) on this version adds a
level of confirmations. "PlayProtect" popped up with a warning flag. First
time round I backed out. Mistake. I then had to disable PlayProtect in the
Google Store thing.
When you exit from Q, does it disappear from the recent-run list (the one
activated with the right-hand square) ?
On GDrive you need to tell GDrive that a file is "pinned" for offline. Does
the same concept apply on 1drive ?
At this step:
>> Waited for to it to sync latest version on android
Mark,
I will research further, but I followed these basic steps and the result
befuddled me
All from memory, thus I will retest soon.
- Placed wiki in OneDrive on desktop
- Waited for to it to sync latest version on android
- Added/Opened the wiki in Quinoid from the local synced
How are you updating the wiki from the desktop? If you back out of Q, then
update from the desktop, and then go back in, it *should* see the new wiki.
But if you're using GDrive, GDrive itself doesn't recognize the changed
date stamp. So there's a different order in which to do things. It's
Mark,
Testing 0.0.6alpha on Android 8
I can load the wiki from one drive using the system explorer. I can update
the wiki from the desktop, on one drive, close and then reopen Quinoid and
even although the file change is propagated to the mobile, it continues to
open the prior version, until
Installs ok and functionality of v0.0.5 still working but new features not
working for me this time.
Refresh: imported the Refresh-for-Quinoid.json. Exited quinoid, restarted,
refresh not doing anything. The tiddler containing the script is displaying the
script in italics minus the first
https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01/releases/tag/v0.0.6alpha
.apk is to be found under Assets
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Hi Mark,
Updated to 0.0.6alpha
Works great! The wiki on GDrive and local folder both work
favicon works
Android 9.
Note: I use the system explorer.
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On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:51:31 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
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> Two new mechanisms for refresh (see Readme.md). Installing the
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