[tw5] Re: TW single file 5.1.19 upgrade saved file size

2019-08-03 Thread A Gloom

>
> When you save a wiki there is a filter in which you can exclude temp or 
> other tiddlers if desired.
>
> Thanks for sharing your observations.
>

I shall check into that, that was quite a few "$:/state/edit-title" 
tiddlers that spparently weren't needed.

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[tw5] Re: TW single file 5.1.19 upgrade saved file size

2019-08-02 Thread TonyM
When you save a wiki there is a filter in which you can exclude temp or other 
tiddlers if desired.

Thanks for sharing your observations.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TW single file 5.1.19 upgrade saved file size

2019-08-02 Thread A Gloom
Tony,

You're probably correct, this was a jump of 2 versions (tho from what I 
understand, .19 was mainly a bugs fix).


The decrease of system tiddlers (2252 to 83) counted in control panel> info 
tab, I believe was a result of state tiddlers being left out of the 
upgrade-- using the list feature of control panel> info tab, I noticed they 
where missing in the upgraded wiki.

In More tab> explorer, I noticed:

the core tiddlers went from 676 to 720

state tiddlers went from 2172 to 11, which supports my hunch

-- all "tab--" state tiddlers were missing, as well as custom name state 
tiddlers, I assume they'll reappear as I use tiddlers having tabs (macro) 
and a state gets set by their use

-- all the "$:/state/edit-title" tiddlers I saw in the upgrade import list 
were not actually imported, can't find them with advanced search

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[tw5] Re: TW single file 5.1.19 upgrade saved file size

2019-08-02 Thread TonyM
The change in the size could be the result of recoding/refactoring the core 
code to reduce the size and or improve performance.

New versions need not require more bytes, just smarter bytes and it is a 
sensible exercise to do this whenever possible.

If this is the case it is removing bloat in the code the first time, and 
you will not see it in subsequent "Re-Upgrades". 

If this were the case however It would be better to build it into the wiki 
so you can "clean up" from inside a wiki directly.

Regards
Tony


On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:31:24 AM UTC+10, A Gloom wrote:
>
> When upgrading TW single file, from 5.1.17 to 5.1.19 on Windows8.1/latest 
> Firefox, I noticed a sizeable file size decrease from 4,926 kb to 4,430 kb
>
> all I noticed tiddlers numbers wise (from control panel, info tab)
>
> Number of tiddlers: 1642 (pre-upgrade)/ 1642 after
> Number of tags: 512 / 512
> Number of system tiddlers: 2252 / 83
> Number of shadow tiddlers: 1813 / 1881
> Number of overridden shadow tiddlers: 30 / 28
>
> No content appeared to be lost.  Even all my custom non-core system (given 
> the $:/ prefix) tiddlers (macros, stylesheets, cloned, modified, given a 
> special $:/.rags tiddler title prefix core tiddlers) all transfered over.
>
> I wasn't running any installed plug-in's or modified core system tiddlers 
> other than 1 manual edit to the vanilla stylesheet and those changed by 
> control panel settings.
>
> I figured it might be old temp tiddlers being left out-- the drastic 
> decrease in system tiddlers, but in the upgrade tiddler list I noticed a 
> lot of state tiddlers included.  I figured the file size will build back up 
> as the TW is used and "use settings" made during use get restored.
>
> Strange idea-- would this be a way to "refresh" a TW, clearing built up 
> bloat?  Can an upgrade be used on the same version TW again?
>

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