[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

There needs to be a way to activate TWO savers. So, for instance, you could 
save to tiddlyspot (or any replacement) and simultaneously download a copy 
to your local download directory. That way people wouldn't have to 
consciously remember to copy their cloud-based TW periodically, though they 
would need to remember to delete backup copies -- unless of course the 2nd 
saver was something like timimi, which will trim for you. 

The problem with convenient systems is that ... they're too darn convenient.


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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark

Quick update. I host several sites at DH. I'm having similar issues on some 
of them too.

The issues with TiddlySpot should not be seen in isolation, there are 
several different things going on.

A specific issue with TiddlySpot, linked to by Eric, is outlined 
here: http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/
and is likely related to what DH see as the right mechanism for "backups."

FWIW, I think DH, right now, are overwhelmed with support requests. They 
haven't replied to mine yet of two days ago.

Best wishes
TT

On Friday, 23 October 2020 21:44:47 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[kuzi]

Hi all, just in case you're not aware, the Internet Archive may have a copy 
of some sites stored within the last month or two. Not the most recent but 
better than nothing I would imagine. It's worth a try: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20201013022309/http://tiddlyspot.com/ 

On Sunday, 25 October 2020 at 21:54:24 UTC-5 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow, that sucks. Cool to see the community try to mitigate the damage...
>
> Best of luck,
> Joshua F 
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 7:12:45 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Folks Simon et all
>>
>> Although I do not know how to set up my own tiddlyspot, I wanted to 
>> contact Simon to offer my own hosting (cpanel/apache) but even 
>> http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ 
>> 
>>   
>> is not live. 
>>
>> My host although in Australia, international cloud flare CDN should make 
>> this practical from my host.
>>
>> Any Suggestions?
>>
>> I have a few personally, somewhat neglected tiddlyspots, and can live 
>> without them, but over the years a lot of great solutions were documented 
>> on tiddlyspot sites, I would hate to see them lost.
>>
>> The key questions are?
>>
>>- Is there a fairly recent backup?
>>- What is its total size?
>>- What technologies does it need?
>>- Would it be easy to bring up elsewhere?
>>- Can we find a way to mirror it to avoid loss.
>>
>> Feel free to send a private message with contact info for Simon if you 
>> have it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 06:44:47 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. 
>>> They seem to be offering to sell the site.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Joshua Fontany]

Wow, that sucks. Cool to see the community try to mitigate the damage...

Best of luck,
Joshua F 

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 7:12:45 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks Simon et all
>
> Although I do not know how to set up my own tiddlyspot, I wanted to 
> contact Simon to offer my own hosting (cpanel/apache) but even 
> http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ 
> 
>   
> is not live. 
>
> My host although in Australia, international cloud flare CDN should make 
> this practical from my host.
>
> Any Suggestions?
>
> I have a few personally, somewhat neglected tiddlyspots, and can live 
> without them, but over the years a lot of great solutions were documented 
> on tiddlyspot sites, I would hate to see them lost.
>
> The key questions are?
>
>- Is there a fairly recent backup?
>- What is its total size?
>- What technologies does it need?
>- Would it be easy to bring up elsewhere?
>- Can we find a way to mirror it to avoid loss.
>
> Feel free to send a private message with contact info for Simon if you 
> have it.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 06:44:47 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. 
>> They seem to be offering to sell the site.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[TW Tones]

Folks Simon et all

Although I do not know how to set up my own tiddlyspot, I wanted to contact 
Simon to offer my own hosting (cpanel/apache) but even 
http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ 

  
is not live. 

My host although in Australia, international cloud flare CDN should make 
this practical from my host.

Any Suggestions?

I have a few personally, somewhat neglected tiddlyspots, and can live 
without them, but over the years a lot of great solutions were documented 
on tiddlyspot sites, I would hate to see them lost.

The key questions are?

   - Is there a fairly recent backup?
   - What is its total size?
   - What technologies does it need?
   - Would it be easy to bring up elsewhere?
   - Can we find a way to mirror it to avoid loss.

Feel free to send a private message with contact info for Simon if you have 
it.

Regards
Tones


On Saturday, 24 October 2020 06:44:47 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Alvin]

I never had a problem with TiddlySpot not being up to date—it did the job, 
for which I am very grateful. Thank you, Daniel!

Two of my TiddlySpot files constitute my online brain, which I accessed and 
modified almost daily, and I have three more that were simply projects.  If 
I can get the most current versions it would be wonderful.

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 2:44:47 PM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote:

> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Eric Thompson]

Any chance this is recoverable with the way back machine?

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 3:44:47 PM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:

> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Eric

I will write to Dreamhost about this immediately.

TT

On Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:58:27 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know about 
>> the problem.
>>
>
> I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a 
> simple fix".
>
> Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation: 
> http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com
>
> -e
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Jan]

Hostnightmare I would say
I hoped you all did your backups better than me :o .
There is still no sigh of life...

Best wishes Jan


Am 24.10.2020 um 13:16 schrieb TiddlyTweeter:

Ciao Eric

Just FYI, I host on Dreamhost for all my domains.

There are some issues on this recent update by DH that are affecting 
many. Its quite a radical update.


I'm sure it will come right.

Best
TT

On Saturday, 24 October 2020 00:01:29 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 12:44:47 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:

The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great
confidence. They seem to be offering to sell the site.


It looks like DreamHost has re-initialized their servers, and the
tiddlyspot.com  *account* is still defined,
but doesn't have any content.  Hopefully, this is just a matter of
reloading the content from their nightly backups,
and is not a more serious problem.

I know it was all working earlier today when I last updated one of
my tiddlyspot-hosted TW projects.

-e

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Chuck R.]

"The future of Tiddlyspot is unclear." That's unfortunate because I really 
liked Tiddlyspot and used it a lot. I did my own local backups about once a 
week, so I didn't lose that much really. Never count on that online stuff 
to be there forever. 

Thanks for that blog link with the update, Eric. I use Bluehost.com if that 
helps. They support a lot of options, programs, databases, etc. 

On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 9:58:27 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know about 
>> the problem.
>>
>
> I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a 
> simple fix".
>
> Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation: 
> http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com
>
> -e
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Eric Shulman]

On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know about 
> the problem.
>

I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a simple 
fix".

Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation: 
http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com

-e

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Chuck R.]

I just checked and tiddlyspot is down for me also. 

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 3:44:47 PM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:

> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Eric

Just FYI, I host on Dreamhost for all my domains.

There are some issues on this recent update by DH that are affecting many. 
Its quite a radical update.

I'm sure it will come right.

Best
TT

On Saturday, 24 October 2020 00:01:29 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 12:44:47 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. 
>> They seem to be offering to sell the site.
>>
>
> It looks like DreamHost has re-initialized their servers, and the 
> tiddlyspot.com *account* is still defined,
> but doesn't have any content.  Hopefully, this is just a matter of 
> reloading the content from their nightly backups,
> and is not a more serious problem.
>
> I know it was all working earlier today when I last updated one of my 
> tiddlyspot-hosted TW projects.
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Eric Shulman]

I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know about 
the problem.

Hopefully they can get DreamHost to restore the content from a backup.

-e

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Eric Shulman]

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 12:44:47 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>

It looks like DreamHost has re-initialized their servers, and the 
tiddlyspot.com *account* is still defined,
but doesn't have any content.  Hopefully, this is just a matter of 
reloading the content from their nightly backups,
and is not a more serious problem.

I know it was all working earlier today when I last updated one of my 
tiddlyspot-hosted TW projects.

-e

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Ste]

Oh bugger! 
Eeep.
Let's hope it's a temporary thing! 


On Friday, 23 October 2020 at 20:44:47 UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
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