Re: [tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Thanks Tones,
I’ll take a look at it!

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 7:45 AM TW Tones  wrote:

> An additional Note see Control Panel > Info > Advanced > StyleSheets
>
> The order they are in determines which styles win. use
> <> and you can drag and drop the order.
>
> Tones
>
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 07:20:26 UTC+10 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> If you change "background" to green the tiddler background take it.
>>
>> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 20:10:26 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Everything seems to be starting to come together! I noticed in the
>>> Palette that background and page-background are different, what does
>>> background refer to?
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 8:47:31 AM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>>>
 Thanks @Alvaro, I’ll take a look at those. Already, the TW-primer shows
 up in the themes tab based on my changes on my end, I tend not to push to
 GitHub until the product is able to be used.

 On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 7:00 AM Álvaro 
 wrote:

> You can include the paltte in the theme.
> Here you have two examples:
> - Mono theme
> 
> - Notebook theme
> 
>
> There is another point that you can see, these themes start with 
> *$:/themes/
> *instead of  *$:/plugins/ . *They are a kind of plugin but you will
> see them in ControlPanel > Appearance > Theme
>
> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 2:45:01 UTC+2,
> flanc...@gmail.com escribió:
>
>> Started working on it, and already another question! It seems that I
>> can't include a palette inside the theme, but instead may have to do it
>> differently ???
>>
>> My palette file looks like this:
>>
>> description: Sleek dark skin for tw5, based on primer.css!
>> name: tw5-primer
>> title: $:/palettes/tw5-primer
>> tags: $:/tags/Palette
>> type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary
>>
>> And palette code here...
>>
>> Any ideas for what's going on? I'm thinking maybe the palette may
>> have to be defined inside the css file??
>>
>> Thanks for your (continued) help!
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more
>>> issues so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>>
 A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N
 key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can 
 use it
 with <> where keyName can be page-background or
 others.

 You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think).
 If your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it
 works like stylesheet file.

 you can see more of what was discussed here
 

 Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette,
 many keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It
 is also something that has already been discussed about how to reduce 
 the
 palettes, but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of
 TiddlyWiki.
 El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2,
 strikke...@gmail.com escribió:

> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that
> will be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active 
> palette
> for their use of Tiddlywiki.
> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2
> flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to
>> include it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a
>> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as 
>> <>
>> ? Is this correct to assume?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4
>> strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to
>>> $:/ControlPanel  select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to
>>> the bottom of that and click the Show editor button. That will show 
>>> the
>>> selected palette. Select clone palette. Then you can edit that. You 
>>> will
>>> see how it is done and can choose the colours you prefer. That 

Re: [tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[TW Tones]

An additional Note see Control Panel > Info > Advanced > StyleSheets

The order they are in determines which styles win. use 
<> and you can drag and drop the order.

Tones

On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 07:20:26 UTC+10 Álvaro wrote:

> If you change "background" to green the tiddler background take it.
>
> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 20:10:26 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
> escribió:
>
>> Everything seems to be starting to come together! I noticed in the 
>> Palette that background and page-background are different, what does 
>> background refer to?
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 8:47:31 AM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks @Alvaro, I’ll take a look at those. Already, the TW-primer shows 
>>> up in the themes tab based on my changes on my end, I tend not to push to 
>>> GitHub until the product is able to be used. 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 7:00 AM Álvaro  wrote:
>>>
 You can include the paltte in the theme.
 Here you have two examples:
 - Mono theme 
 
 - Notebook theme 
 

 There is another point that you can see, these themes start with 
 *$:/themes/ 
 *instead of  *$:/plugins/ . *They are a kind of plugin but you will 
 see them in ControlPanel > Appearance > Theme 

 El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 2:45:01 UTC+2, 
 flanc...@gmail.com escribió:

> Started working on it, and already another question! It seems that I 
> can't include a palette inside the theme, but instead may have to do it 
> differently ???
>
> My palette file looks like this:
>
> description: Sleek dark skin for tw5, based on primer.css!
> name: tw5-primer
> title: $:/palettes/tw5-primer
> tags: $:/tags/Palette
> type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary
>
> And palette code here...
>
> Any ideas for what's going on? I'm thinking maybe the palette may have 
> to be defined inside the css file??
>
> Thanks for your (continued) help!
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>
>> Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more 
>> issues so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>
>>> A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
>>> key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use 
>>> it 
>>> with <> where keyName can be page-background or 
>>> others. 
>>>
>>> You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). 
>>> If your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it 
>>> works like stylesheet file.
>>>
>>> you can see more of what was discussed here 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, 
>>> many keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It 
>>> is also something that has already been discussed about how to reduce 
>>> the 
>>> palettes, but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of 
>>> TiddlyWiki. 
>>> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, 
>>> strikke...@gmail.com escribió:
>>>
 <> gives you the color number from the palette - that 
 will be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active 
 palette 
 for their use of Tiddlywiki. 
 Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.

 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 
 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to 
> include it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as 
> <> 
> ? Is this correct to assume?
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 
> strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
>> $:/ControlPanel  
>> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and 
>> click 
>> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select 
>> clone 
>> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
>> choose 
>> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 
>> flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> 

Re: [tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Álvaro]

If you change "background" to green the tiddler background take it.

El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 20:10:26 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
escribió:

> Everything seems to be starting to come together! I noticed in the Palette 
> that background and page-background are different, what does background 
> refer to?
>
> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 8:47:31 AM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Alvaro, I’ll take a look at those. Already, the TW-primer shows 
>> up in the themes tab based on my changes on my end, I tend not to push to 
>> GitHub until the product is able to be used. 
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 7:00 AM Álvaro  wrote:
>>
>>> You can include the paltte in the theme.
>>> Here you have two examples:
>>> - Mono theme 
>>> 
>>> - Notebook theme 
>>> 
>>>
>>> There is another point that you can see, these themes start with 
>>> *$:/themes/ 
>>> *instead of  *$:/plugins/ . *They are a kind of plugin but you will see 
>>> them in ControlPanel > Appearance > Theme 
>>>
>>> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 2:45:01 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
>>> escribió:
>>>
 Started working on it, and already another question! It seems that I 
 can't include a palette inside the theme, but instead may have to do it 
 differently ???

 My palette file looks like this:

 description: Sleek dark skin for tw5, based on primer.css!
 name: tw5-primer
 title: $:/palettes/tw5-primer
 tags: $:/tags/Palette
 type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary

 And palette code here...

 Any ideas for what's going on? I'm thinking maybe the palette may have 
 to be defined inside the css file??

 Thanks for your (continued) help!
 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more 
> issues so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
>> key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use 
>> it 
>> with <> where keyName can be page-background or 
>> others. 
>>
>> You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). 
>> If your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it 
>> works like stylesheet file.
>>
>> you can see more of what was discussed here 
>> 
>>
>> Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, 
>> many keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is 
>> also something that has already been discussed about how to reduce the 
>> palettes, but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of 
>> TiddlyWiki. 
>> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, 
>> strikke...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>>> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that 
>>> will be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active 
>>> palette 
>>> for their use of Tiddlywiki. 
>>> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to 
 include it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
 text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as 
 <> 
 ? Is this correct to assume?

 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 
 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

>
>
> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
> $:/ControlPanel  
> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and 
> click 
> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select 
> clone 
> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
> choose 
> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 
> flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>
>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first 
>> theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just 
>> need to be 
>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro 

Re: [tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Everything seems to be starting to come together! I noticed in the Palette 
that background and page-background are different, what does background 
refer to?

On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 8:47:31 AM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Thanks @Alvaro, I’ll take a look at those. Already, the TW-primer shows up 
> in the themes tab based on my changes on my end, I tend not to push to 
> GitHub until the product is able to be used. 
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 7:00 AM Álvaro  wrote:
>
>> You can include the paltte in the theme.
>> Here you have two examples:
>> - Mono theme 
>> 
>> - Notebook theme 
>> 
>>
>> There is another point that you can see, these themes start with *$:/themes/ 
>> *instead of  *$:/plugins/ . *They are a kind of plugin but you will see 
>> them in ControlPanel > Appearance > Theme 
>>
>> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 2:45:01 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Started working on it, and already another question! It seems that I 
>>> can't include a palette inside the theme, but instead may have to do it 
>>> differently ???
>>>
>>> My palette file looks like this:
>>>
>>> description: Sleek dark skin for tw5, based on primer.css!
>>> name: tw5-primer
>>> title: $:/palettes/tw5-primer
>>> tags: $:/tags/Palette
>>> type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary
>>>
>>> And palette code here...
>>>
>>> Any ideas for what's going on? I'm thinking maybe the palette may have 
>>> to be defined inside the css file??
>>>
>>> Thanks for your (continued) help!
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more 
 issues so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)

 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:

> A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
> key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use 
> it 
> with <> where keyName can be page-background or 
> others. 
>
> You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If 
> your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works 
> like stylesheet file.
>
> you can see more of what was discussed here 
> 
>
> Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many 
> keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also 
> something that has already been discussed about how to reduce the 
> palettes, 
> but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki. 
> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, 
> strikke...@gmail.com escribió:
>
>> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that 
>> will be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active 
>> palette 
>> for their use of Tiddlywiki. 
>> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to 
>>> include it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
>>> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as 
>>> <> 
>>> ? Is this correct to assume?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 
>>> strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>


 Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
 $:/ControlPanel  
 select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and 
 click 
 the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select 
 clone 
 palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
 choose 
 the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 
 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks @Alvaro,
>
> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first 
> theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need 
> to be 
> pointed in the right direction :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>
>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many 
>> values of some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>> For example, the 

Re: [tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Thanks @Alvaro, I’ll take a look at those. Already, the TW-primer shows up
in the themes tab based on my changes on my end, I tend not to push to
GitHub until the product is able to be used.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 7:00 AM Álvaro 
wrote:

> You can include the paltte in the theme.
> Here you have two examples:
> - Mono theme
> 
> - Notebook theme
> 
>
> There is another point that you can see, these themes start with *$:/themes/
> *instead of  *$:/plugins/ . *They are a kind of plugin but you will see
> them in ControlPanel > Appearance > Theme
>
> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 2:45:01 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com
> escribió:
>
>> Started working on it, and already another question! It seems that I
>> can't include a palette inside the theme, but instead may have to do it
>> differently ???
>>
>> My palette file looks like this:
>>
>> description: Sleek dark skin for tw5, based on primer.css!
>> name: tw5-primer
>> title: $:/palettes/tw5-primer
>> tags: $:/tags/Palette
>> type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary
>>
>> And palette code here...
>>
>> Any ideas for what's going on? I'm thinking maybe the palette may have to
>> be defined inside the css file??
>>
>> Thanks for your (continued) help!
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more
>>> issues so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>>
 A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N
 key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use it
 with <> where keyName can be page-background or others.

 You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If
 your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works
 like stylesheet file.

 you can see more of what was discussed here
 

 Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many
 keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also
 something that has already been discussed about how to reduce the palettes,
 but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki.
 El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2,
 strikke...@gmail.com escribió:

> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that
> will be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette
> for their use of Tiddlywiki.
> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to
>> include it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a
>> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as 
>> <>
>> ? Is this correct to assume?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
>>> $:/ControlPanel
>>> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and 
>>> click
>>> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select 
>>> clone
>>> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
>>> choose
>>> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start.
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks @Alvaro,

 Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first
 theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need 
 to be
 pointed in the right direction :)

 Thanks again!

 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:

> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>
> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values
> of some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>
> body.tc-body {
> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
> line-height:
> {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
> word-wrap: break-word;
> <>
> color: <>;
> *background-color: <>;*
> fill: <>;
> }
>
> You will need 

[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Álvaro]

You can include the paltte in the theme.
Here you have two examples:
- Mono theme 

- Notebook theme 


There is another point that you can see, these themes start with *$:/themes/ 
*instead of  *$:/plugins/ . *They are a kind of plugin but you will see 
them in ControlPanel > Appearance > Theme 

El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 2:45:01 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
escribió:

> Started working on it, and already another question! It seems that I can't 
> include a palette inside the theme, but instead may have to do it 
> differently ???
>
> My palette file looks like this:
>
> description: Sleek dark skin for tw5, based on primer.css!
> name: tw5-primer
> title: $:/palettes/tw5-primer
> tags: $:/tags/Palette
> type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary
>
> And palette code here...
>
> Any ideas for what's going on? I'm thinking maybe the palette may have to 
> be defined inside the css file??
>
> Thanks for your (continued) help!
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>
>> Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more 
>> issues so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>
>>> A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
>>> key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use it 
>>> with <> where keyName can be page-background or others. 
>>>
>>> You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If 
>>> your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works like 
>>> stylesheet file.
>>>
>>> you can see more of what was discussed here 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many 
>>> keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also 
>>> something that has already been discussed about how to reduce the palettes, 
>>> but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki. 
>>> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, 
>>> strikke...@gmail.com escribió:
>>>
 <> gives you the color number from the palette - that will 
 be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
 their use of Tiddlywiki. 
 Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.

 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include 
> it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as 
> <> 
> ? Is this correct to assume?
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
>> $:/ControlPanel  
>> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and 
>> click 
>> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select 
>> clone 
>> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
>> choose 
>> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>>
>>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first 
>>> theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need 
>>> to be 
>>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>>
 The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.

 How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values 
 of some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
 For example, the selector mentioned by you:

 body.tc-body {
 font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
 line-height: 
 {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
 word-wrap: break-word;
 <>
 color: <>;
 *background-color: <>;*
 fill: <>;
 }

 You will need create a palette for your theme
 El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
 flanc...@gmail.com escribió:

> Hi,
>
> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some 
> feedback I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette 

[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Started working on it, and already another question! It seems that I can't 
include a palette inside the theme, but instead may have to do it 
differently ???

My palette file looks like this:

description: Sleek dark skin for tw5, based on primer.css!
name: tw5-primer
title: $:/palettes/tw5-primer
tags: $:/tags/Palette
type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary

And palette code here...

Any ideas for what's going on? I'm thinking maybe the palette may have to 
be defined inside the css file??

Thanks for your (continued) help!
On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more 
> issues so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
>> key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use it 
>> with <> where keyName can be page-background or others. 
>>
>> You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If 
>> your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works like 
>> stylesheet file.
>>
>> you can see more of what was discussed here 
>> 
>>
>> Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many 
>> keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also 
>> something that has already been discussed about how to reduce the palettes, 
>> but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki. 
>> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, 
>> strikke...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>>> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that will 
>>> be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
>>> their use of Tiddlywiki. 
>>> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include 
 it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
 text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as 
 <> 
 ? Is this correct to assume?

 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
>
> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
> $:/ControlPanel  
> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and 
> click 
> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
> choose 
> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>
>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first 
>> theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to 
>> be 
>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>
>>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>>
>>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values 
>>> of some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>>> word-wrap: break-word;
>>> <>
>>> color: <>;
>>> *background-color: <>;*
>>> fill: <>;
>>> }
>>>
>>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
>>> flanc...@gmail.com escribió:
>>>
 Hi,

 Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some 
 feedback I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette 
 tweaking. Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't 
 allow 
 this behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.

 Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still 
 overrides the palette changes. For example, if I am working on 
 .tc-body, I 
 add the following CSS to my theme

 body.tc-body {
  background-color: #000;
 }

 , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
 change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
 doesn't 
 work, because the palette call of

 

[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more issues 
so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:

> A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
> key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use it 
> with <> where keyName can be page-background or others. 
>
> You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If 
> your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works like 
> stylesheet file.
>
> you can see more of what was discussed here 
> 
>
> Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many 
> keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also 
> something that has already been discussed about how to reduce the palettes, 
> but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki. 
> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, strikke...@gmail.com 
> escribió:
>
>> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that will 
>> be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
>> their use of Tiddlywiki. 
>> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include 
>>> it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
>>> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as <> 
>>> ? Is this correct to assume?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
 $:/ControlPanel  
 select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
 the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
 palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
 choose 
 the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thanks @Alvaro,
>
> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first 
> theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to 
> be 
> pointed in the right direction :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>
>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
>> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>> word-wrap: break-word;
>> <>
>> color: <>;
>> *background-color: <>;*
>> fill: <>;
>> }
>>
>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
>> flanc...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some 
>>> feedback I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette 
>>> tweaking. Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't 
>>> allow 
>>> this behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.
>>>
>>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still 
>>> overrides the palette changes. For example, if I am working on 
>>> .tc-body, I 
>>> add the following CSS to my theme
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #000;
>>> }
>>>
>>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
>>> doesn't 
>>> work, because the palette call of
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #fff;
>>> }
>>>
>>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>>
>>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Álvaro]

A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use it 
with <> where keyName can be page-background or others. 

You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If your 
file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works like 
stylesheet file.

you can see more of what was discussed here 


Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many keys 
reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also something 
that has already been discussed about how to reduce the palettes, but it 
would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki. 
El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, strikke...@gmail.com 
escribió:

> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that will be 
> the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
> their use of Tiddlywiki. 
> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include it 
>> in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
>> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as <> 
>> ? Is this correct to assume?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
>>> $:/ControlPanel  
>>> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
>>> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
>>> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
>>> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks @Alvaro,

 Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first 
 theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to 
 be 
 pointed in the right direction :)

 Thanks again!

 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:

> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>
> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>
> body.tc-body {
> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
> word-wrap: break-word;
> <>
> color: <>;
> *background-color: <>;*
> fill: <>;
> }
>
> You will need create a palette for your theme
> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
> flanc...@gmail.com escribió:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some 
>> feedback I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette 
>> tweaking. Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't 
>> allow 
>> this behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.
>>
>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still 
>> overrides the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, 
>> I 
>> add the following CSS to my theme
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>>  background-color: #000;
>> }
>>
>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
>> doesn't 
>> work, because the palette call of
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>>  background-color: #fff;
>> }
>>
>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>
>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

<> gives you the color number from the palette - that will be 
the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
their use of Tiddlywiki. 
Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include it 
> in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as <> 
> ? Is this correct to assume?
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
>> $:/ControlPanel  
>> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
>> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
>> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
>> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>>
>>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
>>> but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
>>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>>
 The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.

 How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
 some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
 For example, the selector mentioned by you:

 body.tc-body {
 font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
 line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
 word-wrap: break-word;
 <>
 color: <>;
 *background-color: <>;*
 fill: <>;
 }

 You will need create a palette for your theme
 El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
 flanc...@gmail.com escribió:

> Hi,
>
> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback 
> I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. 
> Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this 
> behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.
>
> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
> the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
> following CSS to my theme
>
> body.tc-body {
>  background-color: #000;
> }
>
> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
> doesn't 
> work, because the palette call of
>
> body.tc-body {
>  background-color: #fff;
> }
>
> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>
> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>


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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include it 
in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as <> 
? Is this correct to assume?

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

>
>
> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to $:/ControlPanel 
>  
> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>
>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
>> but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>
>>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>>
>>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
>>> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>>> word-wrap: break-word;
>>> <>
>>> color: <>;
>>> *background-color: <>;*
>>> fill: <>;
>>> }
>>>
>>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
>>> escribió:
>>>
 Hi,

 Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback 
 I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. 
 Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this 
 behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.

 Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
 the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
 following CSS to my theme

 body.tc-body {
  background-color: #000;
 }

 , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
 change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
 doesn't 
 work, because the palette call of

 body.tc-body {
  background-color: #fff;
 }

 is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
 simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.

 Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to $:/ControlPanel  
select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks @Alvaro,
>
> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
> but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
> pointed in the right direction :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>
>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
>> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>> word-wrap: break-word;
>> <>
>> color: <>;
>> *background-color: <>;*
>> fill: <>;
>> }
>>
>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback I 
>>> have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. Testing 
>>> on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this behaviour, 
>>> and I have begun to fix it.
>>>
>>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
>>> the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
>>> following CSS to my theme
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #000;
>>> }
>>>
>>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it doesn't 
>>> work, because the palette call of
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #fff;
>>> }
>>>
>>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>>
>>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Thanks @Alvaro,

Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
pointed in the right direction :)

Thanks again!

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:

> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>
> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of some 
> properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>
> body.tc-body {
> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
> word-wrap: break-word;
> <>
> color: <>;
> *background-color: <>;*
> fill: <>;
> }
>
> You will need create a palette for your theme
> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
> escribió:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback I 
>> have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. Testing 
>> on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this behaviour, 
>> and I have begun to fix it.
>>
>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
>> the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
>> following CSS to my theme
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>>  background-color: #000;
>> }
>>
>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it doesn't 
>> work, because the palette call of
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>>  background-color: #fff;
>> }
>>
>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>
>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Álvaro]

The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.

How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of some 
properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
For example, the selector mentioned by you:

body.tc-body {
font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
word-wrap: break-word;
<>
color: <>;
*background-color: <>;*
fill: <>;
}

You will need create a palette for your theme
El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
escribió:

> Hi,
>
> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback I 
> have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. Testing 
> on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this behaviour, 
> and I have begun to fix it.
>
> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides the 
> palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
> following CSS to my theme
>
> body.tc-body {
>  background-color: #000;
> }
>
> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to change 
> the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it doesn't work, 
> because the palette call of
>
> body.tc-body {
>  background-color: #fff;
> }
>
> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>
> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>

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