[tw5] Re: troublehooting: how to see macro variables

2020-06-30 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 11:51:09 PM UTC-7, Dave Parker wrote: > > Does the ending "" act somehow as the closing "bracket" to the > "<$list" widget? no... that was editing error when i wrote the message. It should be , not -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[tw5] Re: troublehooting: how to see macro variables

2020-06-30 Thread Eric Shulman
On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 10:34:01 PM UTC-7, Dave Parker wrote: > > \define vassum2(here myfield) > <$text text={{{=[title[$here$.VAShi]get[$myfield$]] > =[title[$here$.VASlo]get[$myfield$]] > =[title[$here$.disAbil]get[$myfield$]] +[sum[]]}}}/> > \end > > \define vassum() > <$list >

[tw5] Re: troublehooting: how to see macro variables

2020-06-30 Thread Dave Parker
Does the ending "" act somehow as the closing "bracket" to the "<$list" widget? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #107 with Matt Lauber and Reece Shaw

2020-06-30 Thread Saq Imtiaz
I feel like this is a more common use case than one first realizes, there have been regular posts and questions about usage for running role playing games since the days of TWC. The combination of TiddlyMap and images could be translated back to our own world. Use a world map or portion there

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Birthe C
Ash, I understand, when I used the public sidebar, I also changed it around, so that I could use it from one and the same tiddlyspot ;-), just using a well hidden button. Your wiki look so much better and clearer now. I like it. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > I probably won't be pursuing the dynaview option, since that didn't seem > to improve performance. > > > As a reminder, the NW file can be found at: > > > https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey.html > Ciao Mark Regarding performance and Dynaview---looking at the

Re: [tw5] Re: Adding text to newly imported tiddlers

2020-06-30 Thread Robert Jopling
Tony Many thanks for responding to my query. This is what i am trying to achieve. I have some data in a database and, with Eric's help, I have transferred that data via JSON into a number of tiddlers with data in a number of fields. To see the data I have to add the same text to the body of

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
Ash Rubigo wrote: > > It'd be great to get some feedback on on the aesthetic, layout, and > navigability of my wiki http://www.ashrubigo.com/. > - Am I the only one who doesn't get any scrolling when clicking the links? (win/chrome) - I'm on desktop: It says "Show/hide sidebar" but

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #107 with Matt Lauber and Reece Shaw

2020-06-30 Thread TW Tones
I enjoyed the video Great to see and hear being done what I imagined could be done. I was a DND play when in high school and University. The ad hoc or extensible database that can develop overtime is I believe a key feature of tiddlywiki. With DND you could even build virtual multi-sided dice

Re: [tw5] Re: Adding text to newly imported tiddlers

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
@Robert, is there any other commonality - besides that they're all imported - among the relevant tiddlers? For example, do they happen to be tagged in a specific way that is unique for all tiddlers where you want this text to show, or are they all prefixed in some way or do they all have some

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: Below is a modified $:/core/macros/export > tiddler. Now when you click on the "export tiddler" option, you get two > more choices. One copies the rendered tiddler to HTML, and the other copies > to plain text. > > I don't think copying the all-up wikitext would be easy.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark I spent a while working with the outliner. I had hoped to get the entries in TiddlyWiki Toolmap into it (simply to help me track issues I want to report to David.) It brought up the problem I encountered before with performance. My current impression in Outliner Mode Noto does a

Re: [tw5] Re: Adding text to newly imported tiddlers

2020-06-30 Thread Robert Jopling
Hello Thank you for responding to my query. It is probably worth outlining what i am trying to achieve. I have some data in a database and, with Eric's help, I have transferred that data via JSON into a number of tiddlers with data in a number of fields. To see the data I have to add the same

Re: [tw5] Re: Adding text to newly imported tiddlers

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
OK, modify this and see if it works: \define append() $(text)$ My added text *one *two \end <$button> clicketyclick <$list filter="[tag[HelloThere]]"> <$set name=text value={{{ [{!!title}get[text]] }}}> <$action-setfield $tiddler={{!!title}} text=<> /> <:-) -- You received this message

[tw5] Re: Adding text to newly imported tiddlers

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
As Tony notes, is it the same text that is to be inserted for them all? Would it be OK if it was really inserted via a viewtemplate rather than to manipulate the text field? This would appear the same when you look at the tiddler. A viewtemplate solution would be simpler but the text would e.g

Re: [tw5] Re: Adding text to newly imported tiddlers

2020-06-30 Thread Robert Jopling
Thanks Mat. Really appreciate it. Will give it a go and let you know how i get on Cheers Rob On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 12:49, Mat wrote: > OK, modify this and see if it works: > > \define append() > $(text)$ > > My added text > > *one > *two > \end > > <$button> > clicketyclick > <$list

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@TT could you post the document with TiddlyToolmap imported? I have a suspicion about where the performance hit on editing is coming from and comparing side by side to Streams (in which I have Tiddly toolmap imported) will be a quick way to check if I'm on the right track... Without having to

[tw5] Re: Presenting: field value selector

2020-06-30 Thread Cyrill Andreani
Mat, Thanks to your reactivity. The version is drift, derived from Roam/Stroll of course. I delete the core tiddler and will check the usibility of this edition. :) Mat schrieb am Montag, 29. Juni 2020 um 19:55:17 UTC+2: > @David Gifford and @Cyrill > > OK, after having had a look at Cyrills

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #107 with Matt Lauber and Reece Shaw

2020-06-30 Thread Dragon Cotterill
I have built a TW explaining all the rules, characters, skill and attributes for playing my MUD game. The game itself is not finished, it's still very much a work-in-progress, but the wiki makes organising it so much easier. Which is the point of any TW... it's versatile and can be used for

Re: [tw5] Re: Adding text to newly imported tiddlers

2020-06-30 Thread Robert Jopling
In response 1. Yes they are all tagged the same 2. Yes they would need to be findable in a regular search I hope this helps Rob On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 10:57, Mat wrote: > @Robert, is there any other commonality - besides that they're all > imported - among the relevant tiddlers? For example,

Re: [tw5] Re: Adding text to newly imported tiddlers

2020-06-30 Thread TW Tones
A view template to support viewing your tiddlers should be all that's needed. If the data is not private can you share it in a private reply? There are plenty of ways to automate this without appending anything. Regards Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Saq Sure, I will. Later today I put it on line. TT On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:37:11 UTC+2, Saq Imtiaz wrote: > > @TT could you post the document with TiddlyToolmap imported? I have a > suspicion about where the performance hit on editing is coming from and > comparing side by side to Streams

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark & Saq FWIW, I put on-line two example wiki. * First version works fine on my machine ... * Has 136 items * Half at Level 1 * Half at Level 2 ... https://tidbits.wiki/noto/notoGIFFORD.html * Second version was fine at First but once entries (splits) reached about 300 it got sluggish. *

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I imagine the performance hit comes from the way that hiding fold levels occurs. The method I used to structure the document was meant to be highly portable. So you can port all the tiddlers and the tag tiddler to any tiddler, and view them correctly using the <> macro and nothing else. And

[tw5] Re: Show part of field value

2020-06-30 Thread Eric Shulman
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 7:19:26 AM UTC-7, Jake wrote: > > A little question. I wanted to sort projects by projectsize. But as I > found out TW sorts them based on "text" logic, not "math" logic. So, if I > want 140.15 Gb be higher then 1.3 Gb, 2 Gb, 3 Gb and not between then I > need to

[tw5] Re: troublehooting: how to see macro variables

2020-06-30 Thread Dave Parker
Ok, thank you so much! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 7:37:00 AM UTC-7, Saq Imtiaz wrote: > > A few quick observations. Note that I work on a very high end desktop that > makes it difficult to gauge performance accurately. For example, the second > Noto document from TT loads in a few seconds for me. However,

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The dynaview, as I understand it, prevents portion of the page to which you have not yet scrolled from rendering. This appeared to work, as you could tell because when you paged down there would be a pause before the page became visible. But it didn't seem to help performance. The dynaview

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Ash Rubigo
Mat, These are some really useful points, thanks! > >- Am I the only one who doesn't get any scrolling when clicking the >links? (win/chrome) > > What exactly do you mean by no scrolling? > >- I'm on desktop: It says "Show/hide sidebar" but it not obvious that >the whole

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread David Gifford
That felt really weird to wake up and see something called NotoGifford...I expect royalties... :-) On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 8:52:57 AM UTC-5 TiddlyTweeter wrote: > Mark & Saq > > FWIW, I put on-line two example wiki. * First version works fine on my > machine ... * Has 136 items * Half at

[tw5] Show part of field value

2020-06-30 Thread 'Jake' via TiddlyWiki
A little question. I wanted to sort projects by projectsize. But as I found out TW sorts them based on "text" logic, not "math" logic. So, if I want 140.15 Gb be higher then 1.3 Gb, 2 Gb, 3 Gb and not between then I need to give them values 001.5 Gb, 002 Gb, 003 Gb. But I don't need those

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread Saq Imtiaz
A few quick observations. Note that I work on a very high end desktop that makes it difficult to gauge performance accurately. For example, the second Noto document from TT loads in a few seconds for me. However, comparing the performance of Streams and Noto might be insightful. These are

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
Ash Rubigo wrote: > > > So I take it the sidebar is at the top of the screen for you. So if you > click a link on the sidebar, the sidebar itself won't change, but if you > scroll down the active tiddler *should *have changed. This is working for > me on desktop and mobile, Chrome and Firefox.

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
Ash Rubigo wrote: > > Ah okay, that makes things clearer. Yeah, that's just default TiddlyWiki > behaviour. > No, that's not default TW behaviour: If I go to tiddlywiki.com on my android phone and click any of the sidebar links, then there's automatic scroll to that tiddler. <:-) -- You

[tw5] Re: IDEA: extend [trim[]] filter operator

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
Good idea but/and I think this request has overlapping use; Extend removeprefix op with :suffix to make less greedy #4520 Do please comment there if you agree with it. <:-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark & Saq Though I don't grasp coding complexities I can comment from observation ... > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 7:37:00 AM UTC-7, Saq Imtiaz wrote: >> >> The slow performance in Noto reminds me of what happens when editing >> forces a refresh of the containing tiddler or widget.

[tw5] Re: IDEA: extend [trim[]] filter operator

2020-06-30 Thread Eric Shulman
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 10:30:05 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote: > > Good idea but/and I think this request has overlapping use; > Extend removeprefix op with :suffix to make less greedy #4520 > > That issue is very similar to my proposal, but

Re: [tw5] Re: Family History wiki

2020-06-30 Thread Damon Pritchett
Hmm. Possibly. I'll have to think about how to do that. Is there something fundamentally wrong with my macro the way it is? Damon On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 12:06:59 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote: > > Maybe a workaround; could you introduce a "ghost" that is one level above > and that is not shown and

[tw5] IDEA: extend [trim[]] filter operator

2020-06-30 Thread Eric Shulman
Hi all, In a discussion earlier today ( https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/M8PFeakbp6U), there was a "problem" caused by the use of [removeprefix[...]]. The OP had assumed that this just removed the specified leading text from the items being filtered when, in fact, it also does

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread Dave Parker
NotoWritey / Notoriety ha ha! I just got that (better late than never :D) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Show part of field value

2020-06-30 Thread 'Jake' via TiddlyWiki
> > One minor problem arises because your fields also include a suffix of " > Gb", which makes the > field values "non-numeric" and, as written here: > https://tiddlywiki.com/#nsort%20Operator > >> "Non-numeric values are treated as having a higher value than any number" > > Which

Re: [tw5] Re: Family History wiki

2020-06-30 Thread Damon Pritchett
In an attempt to show all descendants of a person instead of just the children, I've written a macro to do the recursive listing. It works great except for one thing; on the very first pass or top level, the spouses aren't listed (the code is below the examples). It lists the descendants of

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Ash Rubigo
Ah okay, that makes things clearer. Yeah, that's just default TiddlyWiki behaviour. I completely agree the mobile version of the sidebar needs work, and I think I'll make it a priority, it's just confusing and awkward as is. Like I said before, changing it so it instead overlaps the content

[tw5] A way to add a timestamp to a tiddler every time it is opened/viewed in the story river?

2020-06-30 Thread si
I wonder if anything like this exists? I couldn't find anything with a google search, but you never know. Reason: I thought it might be cool to generate a list of tiddlers that I haven't seen in a while. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
Ash Rubigo wrote: > > >>- Am I the only one who doesn't get any scrolling when clicking the >>links? (win/chrome) >> >> What exactly do you mean by no scrolling? > Literally that. I click a link, and seemingly nothing happens other than that my scrollbar handle lengthens or shortens,

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Ash Rubigo
Mat, Literally that. I click a link, and seemingly nothing happens other than > that my scrollbar handle lengthens or shortens, i.e the tiddler is opened > but there is no navigation to it. I tried it now also on my android phone > and same result - no scrolling to display the actual tiddler.

[tw5] Re: Family History wiki

2020-06-30 Thread Damon Pritchett
As I was thinking about what Mat had suggested, I had a thought. I realized that I had to reverse the order of the list filters and all is well. Here's the new code. \define each-other-level() <$list filter= "[titletagging[]sortan[birth]tags[]!title]"> with: <$link><$view

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Ash Rubigo
Huh, you're right, I have no idea how I've broken that. That's strange. I realised making the sidebar always a sidebar was easier than I thought. Tell me what you think! Ash On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 19:37:24 UTC+1, Mat wrote: > > Ash Rubigo wrote: >> >> Ah okay, that makes things clearer.

[tw5] Stroll - Position of backlink text

2020-06-30 Thread Robert Jopling
Hi there I have just downloaded an empty version of Stroll and have been trying it out. Its functionality is right for recording questions and their answers. What I have found is that the back link text in the child tiddler is above the horizintal line, whereas the forward link text in the

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
Ash Rubigo wrote: > > I realised making the sidebar always a sidebar was easier than I thought. > Tell me what you think! > I guess it depends on your target audience. You indicated, apropos possibly keeping the tiddler tool buttons, that your audience is other TW users in which case a sidebar

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Ash Rubigo
> > You indicated that your audience is other TW users > Actually I aim to have a large amount of traffic from all over the Internet, primarily Reddit. This wiki is the hub for the projects I work on, which is why I'm trying refine the style before promoting it to the general public. Reddit

Re: [tw5] Re: Family History wiki

2020-06-30 Thread Mat
Maybe a workaround; could you introduce a "ghost" that is one level above and that is not shown and whose non-appearing spouse is irrelevant if it shows or not? <:-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark P.S. to last, is the populating of the "*reset*" field also a factor in performance? Just wondering? Best wishes TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[tw5] Re: Presenting: GRAPHS - pies, bars, scatter and whatever turns you on

2020-06-30 Thread Dave Parker
Is there a way to get a line graph with super simple input like this: <> I tried that on your site, but it doesn't render anything Ultimately I want to input a string of values generated by a list widget like this: <$list filter="[addsuffix[.VAShi]fields[]regexp[\d\d\d\d-\d\d-\d\d]]"

[tw5] Re: Presenting: GRAPHS - pies, bars, scatter and whatever turns you on

2020-06-30 Thread TW Tones
Dave, Can I suggest in future posting a new topic even if you provide the link to the old thread. There is a danger the old thread you raised from the dead has being superseded, and your reactivating the old one will cause problems. Thanks Tony On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 6:54:52 AM

[tw5] Re: Request for some feedback

2020-06-30 Thread Ash Rubigo
Mat, I found out why clicking a link does not move the screen to the top of the tiddler. The problem is it does not work with the 'Zoomin' story view, because in $:/core/modules/storyviews/zoomin.js, line 115 is commented out: //$tw.pageScroller.scrollIntoView(targetElement); Uncommenting

Re: [tw5] Re: Adding text to newly imported tiddlers

2020-06-30 Thread Robert Jopling
Hi Mat That worked a treat. Thank you so much. Rob On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 12:49, Mat wrote: > OK, modify this and see if it works: > > \define append() > $(text)$ > > My added text > > *one > *two > \end > > <$button> > clicketyclick > <$list filter="[tag[HelloThere]]"> > <$set name=text

[tw5] Re: IDEA: extend [trim[]] filter operator

2020-06-30 Thread TW Tones
Eric, I support your suggestion, in effect the trim default is "leading/trailing whitespace" but you can trim other values with this suggestion. It is true more often that not removeprefix and removesuffix work for me, but they are long operators. If trim was the equivalent of remove prefix I

[tw5] Graphs.tiddlyspot.com question

2020-06-30 Thread Dave Parker
Hi, this is a repeat question (Tony suggested it would be better to do a new thread rather than resurrect the old one) The Graphs plugin is from here: http://graphs.tiddlyspot.com/ Here is the original thread:

[tw5] Re: A way to add a timestamp to a tiddler every time it is opened/viewed in the story river?

2020-06-30 Thread TW Tones
Si, If you provide the method by which when a tiddler is opened in the story river you could include an action that sets the clock by setting a date/time field to now. By default there are multiple ways to open something in the story view, via contents, the result of a search, following an

[tw5] Re: Presenting: GRAPHS - pies, bars, scatter and whatever turns you on

2020-06-30 Thread Dave Parker
Will do, thanks Tony On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 7:19:10 PM UTC-6, TW Tones wrote: > > Dave, > > Can I suggest in future posting a new topic even if you provide the link > to the old thread. > > There is a danger the old thread you raised from the dead has being > superseded, and your

[tw5] Re: IDEA: extend [trim[]] filter operator

2020-06-30 Thread TW Tones
Mark, On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 1:07:06 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote: > > If we had a regular expression splitter (e.g. PR2963), then you could trim > out prefix, suffix, or even create multiple splits from one input string. > This would save having to create > I agree that would be desirable

[tw5] Re: IDEA: extend [trim[]] filter operator

2020-06-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
If we had a regular expression splitter (e.g. PR2963), then you could trim out prefix, suffix, or even create multiple splits from one input string. This would save having to create multiple filters for manipulating strings, especially since any new string operators would have names very