[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed, Mate, It seems to be a constant attribute of yours to under estimate the value of your contributions and how much people use them. True there is minimal feedback and no quantification of who in and what the community is using. A proxy for this is people in the community talking about

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

thanks Jed. I think its an interesting idea to pursue. I see if can understand how to do it. Best Josiah On Thursday, 5 April 2018 21:55:59 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote: > > The executable has everything that is in the repo on gitlab, so It has all > the core plugins and editions available. The ones

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Your boredom level I'd rather not know about :-) It makes me slightly nervous as i am extremely boring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

The executable has everything that is in the repo on gitlab, so It has all the core plugins and editions available. The ones listed are just the ones I typed in before getting bored. New wikis are made using the the createNewWiki message that uses a modified version of the builtin init

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Ciao Jed & Kevin FWIW, its quite easy in Windows to achieve the minimalisation, or hiding, of the "console" window. But I think Jed is right that this is an issue for O/S specific wrappers. I'm not sure it should be his problem. But, rather people who use it and re-wrap it to support specific

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed This is a great bit of kit! Am I right in thinking that at the moment the wikis listed under "Wiki Edition" ... ... are compiled into the executable? I was wondering if it would be possible to have a "Wiki Template Gallery" that is outside the executable to copy boilerplate wikis from?

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

A setting to prevent the wiki from opening up automatically should be easy enough to add. I will add an issue on GitHub to add it. And I am a bit surprised that anyone is using this consistently. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group.

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed, I think the feature "open up the wiki automatically in the default browser" is a great feature especially on first run. I know have this launched at login to my Windows Box and a pinned tab for the index wiki. In fact one feature of multi-user is I can open a wiki when needed and need

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Kevin, In order: I am sure there is some way to make this run without a terminal opening, but I suspect that it would require an additional wrapper on the executable. I can look into it but I have the process for building these automated because I don't use them (I have my wikis running on a

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

And one more question: Suppose I run it on my Mac for a few weeks and then decide to move it to my Linux server. Can I just: - Recursively copy the directory containing tiddlyOSX.command to my Linux server - Replace tiddlyOSX.command with tiddlyLinux - Launch tiddlyLinux and I'll

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

The Command/Terminal window drives me nuts. Both Windows and Mac offer ways to run programs without a Command/Terminal window. If I were to run it invisibly, redirecting stdout and stderr to log files... Does it have to have an orderly shutdown in order to save files? If I waited 10 seconds

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed I don't think the issue is anything to do with your program, so forget I ever said anything :-). The issue was Adobe Creative Cloud that uses node and restarts it when it wants to :-). FWIW, I noticed that using TiddlyServer it creates a second instance of node that works fine alongside

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed Update: Sorry. I may be wrong. It looks like there is some piece of software on the computer that is using node I was unaware of. I don't know what it is yet. Its a bit complicated to pin down but after a time it restarts node. So its difficult to know what your app does and what is being

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed FYI, Windows reads the tiddlyWin.exe "Original filename" as "node.exe". Here is a screen shot ... On Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:38:20 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Jed: >> >> That should not be happening, I am not sure that you should even see >> node.exe running as part of this. I

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed: > > That should not be happening, I am not sure that you should even see > node.exe running as part of this. I am not sure how windows handles it. Are > you running TiddlyServer or something else that uses Node? > I'm not using other Node software at the same time. "node.exe *32" appears

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

That should not be happening, I am not sure that you should even see node.exe running as part of this. I am not sure how windows handles it. Are you running TiddlyServer or something else that uses Node? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Ciao Jed All is well. I'm testing it out various ways. I'll give more feedback when I can make it clear enough to be worth having. I have one tech query. Am I right that "node.exe" remains in memory once started? Even if you close all wikis? I don't see it as a problem. I'd just like to know

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

I already have the executables for osx and linux. Packaging a version for distribution with the portable apps stuff wouldn't change that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Ciao Ste & Jed Its early days but from the look of it it does look like it might be possible to make a legit portable app of the PortableApps.com type if someone wanted to. It wouldn't need to be Jed. In terms of usability widely an issue would be how many folk run PortableApps.com system

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

My portable Apps thought was as much about getting our wonderful Wiki some visability as anything else but I appericiate it's probably extra hassle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

The way you listed the wiki is exactly how to do it. I keep forgetting people use windows, putting ~ in a path in linux or osx makes it start at that users home folder. For windows you just put the full path to the tiddlywiki.info file. I haven't set this up to server single file wikis yet so

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed/Josiah, The solution is already very easy to distribute, and need not have a portableapps.com install, or it would be very easy to make one. However If someone is trying to distribute a TiddlyWiki they built and want to host it through TiddlyWikiMU (my name for Jed's solution), it seems it

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed, Progress, looking great. I could not get this working due to something neither of us were aware of, I had a windows app installed for NodeJS, So tiddlywiki.exe was opening that session in my browser and I never got to see the "Welcome to the MultiUser TiddlyWiki." Somehow they clash, I

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed Carty wrote: > > @TiddlyTweeter try out the instructions from my last post, unless there > is some bug that I haven't tracked down it should work the way you are > describing as 'portable enough' > without any sort of configuration. > I tried the latest. Worked perfectly on first run.

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

I am going to start this by saying that I appreciate the feedback and I apologise if my tone is (or has been) a bit harsh, this has been very confusing for me. @TiddlyTweeter try out the instructions from my last post, unless there is some bug that I haven't tracked down it should work the way

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

It is not packaged like the portableapps.com things but you can go here (https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases) and download the one for your system (tiddlyLInux for linux, tiddlyOSX for mac and tiddlyWin.exe for windows). Then you copy that into whatever folder you want and

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed, comments inserted below ... Jed wrote: > ... you ... take a program written in nodejs and convert it into a single > executable file with no external dependencies. > The point of what I described is that you run an executable file and then a > working wiki opens in your browser and you

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Version 0.0.2 is up so you may have better luck with that. Also do you have the windows firewall blocking things automatically? I can't test on windows but you may have to tell it to allow the server to run or make an exception for node. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Thanks, Will review soon. I have tried every combination with and without other items running. I will try the new version. I only Get 'Websockets listening on 8081" *I am not getting* *under that say something like "Serving on 127.0.0.1:8082 "* I have now tried

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Or it is set to auto increment already. Your console should say 'Websockets listening on 8081" and under that say something like "Serving on 127.0.0.1:8082" The second one is where it is serving it. I just didn't put the updated address in the part that opens the URL for the quick demo

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed, My trial use notes Any advice please? Windows 10, FireFox latest, Also Running TiddlyServer on port 8080 Execute tiddlyWin.exe Opens http://127.0.0.1:8080/ in default browser\ (A TiddlyServer hosted wiki lets call it MyLocalWiki - a folder install) Console says NodeSettings - Failed to

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed, Perhaps there are no prerequisites "to understand it?" because you have done a full and thorugh job. Thanks for your other responses, cool. Thanks heaps Evaluating now Tony On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:22:30 AM UTC+11, Jed Carty wrote: > > And I am a bit confused. What prerequisites

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

And I am a bit confused. What prerequisites are there to understand it? It is a plugin on the node version of tiddlywiki and you install and use it the same way as the normal node version. It doesn't add anything more to understand. In fact it removes the concerns about being able to save and

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

By default it does make sure to use an open port, if 8080 is in use it increments until it finds an open one and uses that. It has a configuration file, you can edit then settings.json file yourself or you can edit the settings from within the wiki. Also while you can have multiple executables

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Jed, I am really keen to see this working. I think the lack of response on muilti-user is not because there is no demand but because it has a number of pre-requisite knowledge to understand, and people have been struggling with it for some time. I for one want it very much, only it needs to

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

The point of what I described is that you run an executable file and then a working wiki opens in your browser and you don't have to think about it. That is what I have set up and what I am asking about. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

By default it is only served on localhost because otherwise it is a huge security risk. Part of the multi-user plugin is moving configuration for the server into the wiki itself. You can go to the control panel and change everything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

I just meant, will that be the default? Although, just noticing, the tip about 0.0.0.0 doesn't seem to be in the TiddlyWiki.com node.js section. I assume you set that after --server ? But users of the exe will probably not want to think about. -- Mark On Sunday, March 11, 2018 at 8:53:09 AM

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

What do you mean 'coverage to everyone on the wifi network'? You can already serve wikis to everyone on the network by setting the host to 0.0.0.0, so anyone on the network can already use wikis being served (and with the multi-user plugin installed they can edit them simultaneously too). --

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

Since there seems to be a constant refrain that TW is too complicated, especially in terms of saving, perhaps this would provide the "one" easy-start entry that most resembles applications people are familiar with. Maybe. Could it be configured to provide coverage to everyone on the wifi

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

A portable app version sounds like a good idea. I need to look into what that requires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to