[tw5] Re: [TWC]Self-hosting

2019-01-14 Thread David Szego

Hi Rob, thanks for writing. Two thoughts come to mind right off the bat - 

First, if you have a good tool, keep using it! I'm glad to hear you still 
make good use of dGSD!!

Secondly, I completely get it when you describe your unfamiliarity with 
TW5. It took me a good year before I got the gumption to tackle it's new 
macros, filters, widgets and behaviours at all, and months after that 
before I decided to start porting dGSD to TW5. 
However, once I did, I really *enjoyed* the elegance of it... as much as 
<> $(still)$ $completely$ [] '''me up''' 
{{!!endlessly}}!!!

I would be very interested in hearing detail about your dGSD workflow, what 
modifications you've made, and what aspects of Cardo you've found trip you 
up a bit. This would really help me make Cardo that much more useful, by 
understanding how people use such a tool.

As for migrating from one to the other... someone did write a script here, 
and it's not really that complex. I should just get off my tush and create 
a macro that does this. (I'll put it on the endless list - there's a reason 
why I've been putting out a release only about once a year!)

Cheers,
David.


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[tw5] Re: [TWC]Self-hosting

2019-01-13 Thread Rob
Hi David,
First off, thank you so much for all the work you've done both with Cardo, 
and with dGSD before that.

It's all the above. Fundamentally I have never developed a feel for TW5. I 
have no problem getting under the hood of TWC and tweaking, adding, 
modifying, etc. I've tried TW5 and have not developed that level of 
competence. For a while I would try but eventually always ended up going 
back to my already-working, tuned-to-my-workflow TWCs (plural). Part of 
that is due to the general lack of documentation that was available when I 
was trying to migrate, back when TW5 was just becoming usable. Not to say 
that I do not tremendously appreciate what Jeremy and everyone else has 
done to build and develop the core TW5, but I have not warmed to it.

For me then, that puts Cardo at a bit of disadvantage from the start. Over 
the years I have developed my workflow around dGSD, and conversely modified 
my dGSD to suite my workflow. Both have evolved in concert to where they 
have converged to something that works well for me. Cardo is different 
enough to introduce a bunch of little hickups that it feels awkward and 
unfamiliar to me. Couple that with my ineptitude of tweaking TW5 and I feel 
a little frustrated and hamstrung. As long as I have a tool that's working 
well, it's hard to abandon it and adopt another. And in the transition 
period, until I felt confident that Cardo was working for me, I'd need to 
maintain two tools in parallel. That just adds another layer of complexity.

And finally, even if I did feel comfortable in TW5 & Cardo, it would still 
be quite a task to populate a new Cardo with all my dGSD tiddlers without 
an automated migration tool. Building it all back by hand would be very 
painful.

So once again, thanks! I hope this helps explain. I'm not saying Cardo is 
not a great tool. But (so far) it just hasn't worked for me as well as dGSD 
has. And I freely acknowledge that that's just one person's opinion, 
nothing more. One day when I'm feeling froggy I may give it another go.

Cheers!
Rob

On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 10:04:31 PM UTC-5, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi Rob, I'm also the author of dGSD - I'd love to know what's not clicking 
> for you with Cardo, is it something Cardo-specific, or TW5 in general? Is 
> it the need for an import routine for dGSD Tiddlers?
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
> On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 21:11:43 UTC-5, Rob wrote:
>>
>>
>> ... David Szego's TW5-based *Cardo* isn't clicking with me and my dGSD 
>> has a lot of info that would be painful to move over into a cardo. ...
>>
>  
>

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[tw5] Re: [TWC]Self-hosting

2019-01-07 Thread David Szego
Hi Rob, I'm also the author of dGSD - I'd love to know what's not clicking 
for you with Cardo, is it something Cardo-specific, or TW5 in general? Is 
it the need for an import routine for dGSD Tiddlers?

Cheers,
David.

On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 21:11:43 UTC-5, Rob wrote:
>
>
> ... David Szego's TW5-based *Cardo* isn't clicking with me and my dGSD 
> has a lot of info that would be painful to move over into a cardo. ...
>
 

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