Re: Re: [tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-18 Thread JD
Hey Bardy, 

On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:15:26 AM UTC+9, bardy wrote:
>
> > would you mind trying out the updated theme on the main Tiddlywiki site, 
> or on Empty edition?
>
> hi, it's my pleasure
>
> just tried your current version 0.3.53 
> on both the main Tiddlywiki site and Empty edition
>
> I think everything is OK now.
>

That's great!

one thing:
> in the default Color theme
> the color of the "Save" button is highlighted, 
> and after making some change, the "Save" button is grayed out
>
> I think maybe it'd be more natural for an indicator 
> to be highlighted when there's change 
> and be grayed out when there's no change
>

This is a good observation, and I think this is because of how the theme is 
handling the save-wiki-dirty-indicator. I'd include consideration of this 
in an update (might be this weekend)


anyway I see this color can be simply changed at ControlPanel "Material 
> Tweak", "Colors of save-wiki dirty indicator on Tools sidebar"
> so it's not really a problem.
>

Yes, there's that, although I wish I could make it automatic hehe
 

another thing:
> to "Make it swipable / tappable"
> > Swipe from the left edge of the screen to open the sidebar (and from the 
> right edge of the screen to close it)
>
> on popular mobiles like Apple iPhones Safari this gesture is already used 
> as Back and Forward for navigation history
>
> maybe swipe from middle ... just a thought.
>

Oh, right! I'm not on iOS so I didn't even know about this. I'll look into 
BTC's HammerWidgets to see if enlarging the swipable area won't interfere 
with text selection. 

Thanks again!

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Re: Re: [tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-11 Thread ruby
> would you mind trying out the updated theme on the main Tiddlywiki site, or 
> on Empty edition?

hi, it's my pleasure

just tried your current version 0.3.53 
on both the main Tiddlywiki site and Empty edition

I think everything is OK now. 



one thing:
in the default Color theme
the color of the "Save" button is highlighted, 
and after making some change, the "Save" button is grayed out

I think maybe it'd be more natural for an indicator 
to be highlighted when there's change 
and be grayed out when there's no change

anyway I see this color can be simply changed at ControlPanel "Material Tweak", 
"Colors of save-wiki dirty indicator on Tools sidebar"
so it's not really a problem.


another thing:
to "Make it swipable / tappable"
> Swipe from the left edge of the screen to open the sidebar (and from the 
> right edge of the screen to close it)

on popular mobiles like Apple iPhones Safari this gesture is already used as 
Back and Forward for navigation history

maybe swipe from middle ... just a thought.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-11 Thread JD
Hey Bardy, thanks so much for the bug reports, they're really valuable to 
me!

The old zoomin problem..  looks like I needed to define the CSS more 
specifically for tiddler frames in zoomin view. I updated the theme and 
hope that this is not a persisting problem!

As for having to drag the visibility tiddlers, that wasn't needed. Buttons 
for the header could be set at ControlPanel > Appearance > Toolbars > Page 
Toolbar... same as for Vanilla theme :) 

If you haven't lost patience in this, would you mind trying out the updated 
theme on the main Tiddlywiki site, or on Empty edition? Thanks a bunch!

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 12:12:35 PM UTC+9, bardy wrote:
>
> hi, as said , I draw them to https://tiddlywiki.com/empty.html,
> obviously it's empty, no need to delete anything.
>
> anyway I've figured out something.
>
> I need to drag these extra tiddlers to get the same:
> * 
> [[$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler]] 
> * $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout 
> * 
> [[$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-page-actions]]
> * $:/tags/PageControls
>
> so it's ok now. 
>
> but, there's another problem.
> the old zoomin story view mode problem.
>
> after drag to http://emptymaterial.tiddlyspot.com/,
> if change to "zoomin" mode, the tiddler width is wider than that in 
> classic mode,
> and there's no space at right tiddler frame border,  a little problem.
> see http://emptymaterial.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> and at http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/, 
> currently versioned 0.3.47, if change to "zoomin" mode, 
> the tiddler width is much wider than that in classic mode, and cause 
> bottom scroll bar to appear
> I remember you've fixed this problem. at least at version 0.3.43 it's ok. 
> don't know why this problem reappears.
>
> I use latest firefox and chrome explorer on windows 10
>
> > Oh my, Bardy, looks like the theme tiddlers at 
> > http://emptymaterial.tiddlyspot.com/ are not in sync with each other. 
> Do 
> > you mind going over the following steps? I just want to know the cause 
> of 
> > the problem (which I see as the tiddler frame not filling the story 
> river)
> > 1. Go to filter search, copy+paste ... delete ... drag again ...
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread ruby
hi, as said , I draw them to https://tiddlywiki.com/empty.html,
obviously it's empty, no need to delete anything.

anyway I've figured out something.

I need to drag these extra tiddlers to get the same:
* [[$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler]] 
* $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout 
* 
[[$:/config/PageControlButtons/Visibility/$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-page-actions]]
* $:/tags/PageControls

so it's ok now. 

but, there's another problem.
the old zoomin story view mode problem.

after drag to http://emptymaterial.tiddlyspot.com/,
if change to "zoomin" mode, the tiddler width is wider than that in classic 
mode,
and there's no space at right tiddler frame border,  a little problem.
see http://emptymaterial.tiddlyspot.com/

and at http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/, 
currently versioned 0.3.47, if change to "zoomin" mode, 
the tiddler width is much wider than that in classic mode, and cause bottom 
scroll bar to appear
I remember you've fixed this problem. at least at version 0.3.43 it's ok. don't 
know why this problem reappears.

I use latest firefox and chrome explorer on windows 10

> Oh my, Bardy, looks like the theme tiddlers at 
> http://emptymaterial.tiddlyspot.com/ are not in sync with each other. Do 
> you mind going over the following steps? I just want to know the cause of 
> the problem (which I see as the tiddler frame not filling the story river)
> 1. Go to filter search, copy+paste ... delete ... drag again ...


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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread BurningTreeC
... the updates on moveablefab.tiddlyspot.com have become a bit bigger, it 
works great now (on my laptop) and can be customized further if one wants

we could have different buttons if swiping up/down/right/left for example


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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread BurningTreeC
@JD 

I made some minor updates on my moveablefab.tiddlyspot.com

mostly the handling when you press long enough to pan, but you don't 
actually pan, so that it deletes that one state tiddler that allows panning 
with the <$press> endactions (with a list filter that checks if panning was 
done)

and a bit of css to show that panning is activated


Simon

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread BurningTreeC
\define mymacro()
list
action
bla
\end

<$tap $actions="""<>""">

works, too

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread BurningTreeC

>
> Whoa, I just found out by studying your code that actions can be defined 
> in macros... I tried it with your test page just to see if it worked 
> (nothing was changed inside the macros)
>

Oh yes, that's possible :) - that allows many many ideas to become possible 

>
> \define pressStartActions()
> """
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-pan-values" $field="center-x" 
> $value={{$:/state/fab-static!!center-x}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-pan-values" $field="center-y" 
> $value={{$:/state/fab-static!!center-y}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/swipe-onoff" $field="text" 
> $value="off"/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/FABs" $field="text" $value="no"/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-panning" text="yes"/>
> """
> \end
>
> \define panEndActions()
> """
> <$list filter="[[$:/state/fab-panning]!is[missing]]">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-static" $field="center-x" 
> $value={{$:/state/fab-pan-values!!center-x}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-static" $field="center-y" 
> $value={{$:/state/fab-pan-values!!center-y}}/>
> 
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/fab-panning"/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/swipe-onoff" $field="text" 
> $value="on"/>
> """
> \end
>
> \define swipeUpActions()
> """
> <$list filter="[{$:/state/swipe-onoff}regexp[on]]">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/FABs" $field="text" $value="yes"/>
> 
> """
> \end
>
> \define swipeDownActions()
> """
> <$list 
> filter="[{$:/state/FABs}regexp[yes]addprefix{$:/state/swipe-onoff}regexp[onyes]]">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/FABs" $field="text" $value="no"/>
> 
> """
> \end
>
> <$set name="tv-config-toolbar-class" value="tc-btn-invisible FABitem">
> <$press $targets="tc-fab-press-wrapper" $time="500" 
> $startactions=<>>
> <$pan $targets="tc-fab-press-wrapper" 
> $statetiddler="$:/state/fab-pan-values" $endactions=<>>
> <$swipe $targets="tc-fab-wrapper" $velocity="0.1" $direction="up" 
> $actions=<>>
> <$swipe $targets="tc-fab-wrapper" $velocity="0.1" $direction="down" 
> $actions=<>>
> 
> 
> 
> <$transclude tiddler={{$:/themes/jd/Material/ConfigDB##fab}}/>
> 
> 
> <$reveal state="$:/state/FABs" type="match" text="yes">
> 
> <$transclude tiddler={{$:/themes/jd/Material/ConfigDB##fab1}}/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> As I understand, we can't have both *press-end* and *pan-start* actions 
> working on the same target div? 
>

better the press-start actions, press-end would mean, you're not holding 
the pointer anymore / the finger has left the screen - then pan-start 
either has already happened or is not possible anymore

 But I don't see why press and pan shouldn't work on the same div, too - 
did you try that and it didn't work?


> (My day's about to end, will continue tomorrow)
>
> no problem, read you next time

BTC 

>  
>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread JD
Whoa, I just found out by studying your code that actions can be defined in 
macros... I tried it with your test page just to see if it worked (nothing 
was changed inside the macros)

\define pressStartActions()
"""
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-pan-values" $field="center-x" 
$value={{$:/state/fab-static!!center-x}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-pan-values" $field="center-y" 
$value={{$:/state/fab-static!!center-y}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/swipe-onoff" $field="text" 
$value="off"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/FABs" $field="text" $value="no"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-panning" text="yes"/>
"""
\end

\define panEndActions()
"""
<$list filter="[[$:/state/fab-panning]!is[missing]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-static" $field="center-x" 
$value={{$:/state/fab-pan-values!!center-x}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/fab-static" $field="center-y" 
$value={{$:/state/fab-pan-values!!center-y}}/>

<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/fab-panning"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/swipe-onoff" $field="text" 
$value="on"/>
"""
\end

\define swipeUpActions()
"""
<$list filter="[{$:/state/swipe-onoff}regexp[on]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/FABs" $field="text" $value="yes"/>

"""
\end

\define swipeDownActions()
"""
<$list 
filter="[{$:/state/FABs}regexp[yes]addprefix{$:/state/swipe-onoff}regexp[onyes]]">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/state/FABs" $field="text" $value="no"/>

"""
\end

<$set name="tv-config-toolbar-class" value="tc-btn-invisible FABitem">
<$press $targets="tc-fab-press-wrapper" $time="500" 
$startactions=<>>
<$pan $targets="tc-fab-press-wrapper" 
$statetiddler="$:/state/fab-pan-values" $endactions=<>>
<$swipe $targets="tc-fab-wrapper" $velocity="0.1" $direction="up" 
$actions=<>>
<$swipe $targets="tc-fab-wrapper" $velocity="0.1" $direction="down" 
$actions=<>>



<$transclude tiddler={{$:/themes/jd/Material/ConfigDB##fab}}/>


<$reveal state="$:/state/FABs" type="match" text="yes">

<$transclude tiddler={{$:/themes/jd/Material/ConfigDB##fab1}}/>









As I understand, we can't have both *press-end* and *pan-start* actions 
working on the same target div? 

(My day's about to end, will continue tomorrow)




On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 10:27:49 PM UTC+9, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> oh, yeah, that was pointed out in the official HammerWidgets page, too 
>> (the pointer events block). 
>>
>> While I'm well inside the div, panning very slowly so the div keeps up, 
>> the iframe doesn't block the movement... which made me think of Surgery 
>> games and such which gave me the idea of the possibility of creating a 
>> game with this lol 
>>
>> By the way, BTC... wait, maybe I'll post the rest of this thought over at 
>> the official thread
>>
>
> http://moveablefab.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> I've made progress - not much widget-tweaking but the fab itself and how 
> the widgets handle states
>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread BurningTreeC

>
> oh, yeah, that was pointed out in the official HammerWidgets page, too 
> (the pointer events block). 
>
> While I'm well inside the div, panning very slowly so the div keeps up, 
> the iframe doesn't block the movement... which made me think of Surgery 
> games and such which gave me the idea of the possibility of creating a 
> game with this lol 
>
> By the way, BTC... wait, maybe I'll post the rest of this thought over at 
> the official thread
>

http://moveablefab.tiddlyspot.com/ 

I've made progress - not much widget-tweaking but the fab itself and how 
the widgets handle states

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread JD
oh, yeah, that was pointed out in the official HammerWidgets page, too (the 
pointer events block). 

While I'm well inside the div, panning very slowly so the div keeps up, the 
iframe doesn't block the movement... which made me think of Surgery games 
and such which gave me the idea of the possibility of creating a game 
with this lol 

By the way, BTC... wait, maybe I'll post the rest of this thought over at 
the official thread--

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 9:17:25 PM UTC+9, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @JD 
>
> I think the problem is the changing content or too many things changing 
> there within at the same time and missing handling in my widgets
> I'll have to figure out how to handle that, I'm sure there's a lot of 
> potential to tweak and correct stuff ... I hope I can make them better, 
> I'll see and report when something changes to the good side
> Maybe someone can point me to a solution for refreshing the widget when 
> its content changes, I'll have to search around how other widgets do it...
>
>
> I've looked at fab.tiddlyspot.com, have you seen that the editor blocks 
> the movement of the button?
> That's because the iframe somehow eats the pointer events. For this, the 
> pan widget automatically creates a tiddler $:/state/dragging at pan-start 
> and deletes it at pan-end
>
> it's enough to put this in a stylesheet :
>
> <$list filter="[[$:/state/dragging]!is[missing]]">
>
> iframe {
> pointer-events: none;
> }
>
> 
>
> ..maybe add !important if it doesn't work without
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread JD
Oh my, Bardy, looks like the theme tiddlers at 
http://emptymaterial.tiddlyspot.com/ are not in sync with each other. Do 
you mind going over the following steps? I just want to know the cause of 
the problem (which I see as the tiddler frame not filling the story river)

1. Go to filter search, copy+paste 
[prefix[$:/themes/jd/]]

2. Press the delete/trash button (confirm 6 tiddlers to be deleted)

3. Save, then refresh the window (this and the above steps are to delete 
all tiddlers created by Material theme)

4. From http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/ drag either Material Theme *or* 
Material 
Theme + icons + HammerWidgets into the refreshed, vanilla-themed window 
(the draggable links look like tag pills now)

5. Save, then refresh the window.

The theme should properly set now... If not, please inform me. Thanks so 
much for the bug reports!


On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 4:59:50 PM UTC+9, bardy wrote:
>
> hi, 
> as said here http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/ :
> > Drag the following into your TW if you want to use it
>
> but after I drag them to https://tiddlywiki.com/empty.html
> I didn't get the same thing as http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/
> see http://emptymaterial.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> there's some other unknown magic?
>
> maybe simple for advanced users, 
> but I'm not familiar with this system, it gave me many confusion and I 
> can't figure it out 
>
> seems that directly saving the whole site from 
> http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> is the simplest way to use this theme
>
> I see your theme is rapidly getting better and better , 
> hopefully it'll be as simple as a drag to get the same effect
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread BurningTreeC
@JD 

I think the problem is the changing content or too many things changing 
there within at the same time and missing handling in my widgets
I'll have to figure out how to handle that, I'm sure there's a lot of 
potential to tweak and correct stuff ... I hope I can make them better, 
I'll see and report when something changes to the good side
Maybe someone can point me to a solution for refreshing the widget when its 
content changes, I'll have to search around how other widgets do it...


I've looked at fab.tiddlyspot.com, have you seen that the editor blocks the 
movement of the button?
That's because the iframe somehow eats the pointer events. For this, the 
pan widget automatically creates a tiddler $:/state/dragging at pan-start 
and deletes it at pan-end

then you can put this in a stylesheet :

<$list filter="[[$:/state/dragging]!is[missing]]">

iframe {
pointer-events: none;
}



..maybe add !important if it doesn't work without


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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread JD
Yeah, I think I'm hitting the same errors as you had. Maybe it's a problem 
with sandwiching widgets with each other? I tried both

<$swipe><$press> 

<$press><$swipe>

to no avail! Thanks for looking into it :)

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 8:55:40 PM UTC+9, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @JD - I'm trying to get my idea of the moveable fab button to work. It's a 
> bit more complicated than I thought to be honest.
> I have to change some things in the widgets and see what works ... it's a 
> use-case I want to cover, so I want to make this work
>
> I'll let you know when I have a fully working example
>
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread BurningTreeC
@JD - I'm trying to get my idea of the moveable fab button to work. It's a 
bit more complicated than I thought to be honest.
I have to change some things in the widgets and see what works ... it's a 
use-case I want to cover, so I want to make this work

I'll let you know when I have a fully working example


BTC

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-10 Thread BurningTreeC
@bardy - if you ask me, the look on your emptymaterial page is exactly the 
look from the material page

after dragging the links to your wiki, you need to SAVE and RELOAD to see 
the changes

Simon

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-07 Thread JD
Oh man, I should've deleted that site! (
http://j.d.material.muri.tiddlyspot.com/)

At the time it was more of a proof-of-concept... I moved on with a simpler 
implementation of the widget and that site no longer applies (I'll delete 
it in a sec)

If you still plan on using the theme with the swipe capabilities, please 
use the updated theme and tiddlers at http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/

and yeah, tiddlyspot is amazing for quickly sharing TW5s hehe. It's up to 
us to keep the free servers clean, however, so I'm pretty embarrassed to 
still have that outdated thing above running around causing confusion


On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 12:05:41 PM UTC+9, bardy wrote:
>
> I mean this site http://j.d.material.muri.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> seems that 
> http://j.d.material.muri.tiddlyspot.com/ is not synchonized with
> http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> at http://j.d.material.muri.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> zoomin story view mode is not as good as 
> http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/
> there's no space between right side of story and vertical scroll bar
> check these:
> http://testZoominMaterial.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> 
> http://testZoominMaterialMuri.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> 
>
>
> and at at http://j.d.material.muri.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> 
>  
> there's swipe-area layer for swipe
> and can not go back and forth between themes
> check this:
> http://testZoominMaterialMuriSwitchTheme.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> btw just find that tiddlyspot.com is really good at reproducing problem
> if I have a problem, make a demo site in 1 minute...
>
> > by "swipe-area layer" do you mean the additional
> > $:/themes/jd/Material/Template/SwipeArea tiddler?
> > I can't replicate the problem. I can go back and forth between themes 
> just
> > fine (please see attached file)... please elaborate?
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-07 Thread JD
Hey Bardy thanks for the bug reports!  

The misaligned TOC turned out to be due to missing class declarations in 
the Material-ized SVG tiddlers. I updated the iconset at the demosite, 
please export/import the set again if you still wish to use them. 

I also updated the theme to comply with the corrected SVG classification, 
please try the updated theme. 

by "swipe-area layer" do you mean the additional 
$:/themes/jd/Material/Template/SwipeArea 

 tiddler? 
I can't replicate the problem. I can go back and forth between themes just 
fine (please see attached file)... please elaborate?





On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 7:04:38 PM UTC+9, bardy wrote:
>
> hi, it seems that table of contents can not be left aligned
> tiddlers without child have some extra space before them
>
> at this page https://tiddlywiki.com/#TableOfContents
> I see the TOC is left aligned
>
> what's the problem here? 
> see here:
> http://testtocalign.tiddlyspot.com/
>
>
> another question, 
> after add a swipe-area layer, it seems impossible to return to original  
> Vanilla Basic theme?
> right sidebar is not clickable.
>
>

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