[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags

2019-05-23 Thread TonyM
Bimlas,

On my large personal tiddlywiki my main organisational method is defining 
tiddler-types such as object, project, task, reference, document, domain 
(work / personal) person and client. In this way my search always starts 
with knowledge of both the tiddler type and its context which is "domain, 
Project, client" and I can always look at it from the perspective of a 
person. None of these use tags, just fields. So tags are free for for what 
they are best at, but I use surprisingly few.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 4:24:35 PM UTC+10, bimlas wrote:
>
> When I started using TiddlyWiki, I originally thought the tags were the 
> perfect solution to find notes easily: just pick the right tags and find 
> what I was looking for. For example, if I'm looking for a description of 
> running TiddlyWiki on Node, I select the "TiddlyWiki", "Node", and 
> "Hosting" tags. Or, for example, if I'm looking for cat's description, I 
> select the "pet", "mammal", "cute" tags. The system works because our brain 
> also connects concepts through their similar qualities (I think), but the 
> problem is the same as in our brain: we get a disordered concept set.
>
> No matter how much I wanted to avoid, a hierarchy (ToC) is needed because 
> it makes the system organized. The great thing about working with 
> TiddlyWiki is that the same note can appear in several different parts of 
> the hierarchy. For example, a cat may be included in the "pets" and 
> "mammals" branches. 
>
> But besides the hierarchy (as can be seen from the description), it is 
> also necessary to have the tags visible. If someone wants to see the 
> structure (ToC) and the tags at the same time, he might be interesting to 
> have the Locator plugin: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-locator/
>
> Trying to apply the theories in this article, here is an example usage of 
> Locator sidebar: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/
>

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[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags

2019-05-23 Thread bimlas
When I started using TiddlyWiki, I originally thought the tags were the 
perfect solution to find notes easily: just pick the right tags and find 
what I was looking for. For example, if I'm looking for a description of 
running TiddlyWiki on Node, I select the "TiddlyWiki", "Node", and 
"Hosting" tags. Or, for example, if I'm looking for cat's description, I 
select the "pet", "mammal", "cute" tags. The system works because our brain 
also connects concepts through their similar qualities (I think), but the 
problem is the same as in our brain: we get a disordered concept set.

No matter how much I wanted to avoid, a hierarchy (ToC) is needed because 
it makes the system organized. The great thing about working with 
TiddlyWiki is that the same note can appear in several different parts of 
the hierarchy. For example, a cat may be included in the "pets" and 
"mammals" branches. 

But besides the hierarchy (as can be seen from the description), it is also 
necessary to have the tags visible. If someone wants to see the structure 
(ToC) and the tags at the same time, he might be interesting to have the 
Locator plugin: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-locator/

Trying to apply the theories in this article, here is an example usage of 
Locator sidebar: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/

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[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags

2019-05-20 Thread TonyM
Hans

Useful metaphor "upwardly growing cone or spiral"

Tony

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 4:49:01 AM UTC+10, HansWobbe wrote:
>
> I found this quite useful.
>
> Since I started working with Tags in the early days of Flickr, my usage 
> has matured dramatically.  So far, I have not found any open-source system 
> as powerful for tagging as TiddlyWiki.  Based on my experience to date, I 
> would try to render the article's ... "building a second brain knowledge 
> life cycle"
> as an upwardly growing cone or spiral since I feel that depicts 
> observation that "the more you know, the more you can learn".  That could 
> also depict the idea that disseminating the information can take place an 
> many different vertical levels.
>
> Thanks for posting it.
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags

2019-05-20 Thread HansWobbe
I found this quite useful.

Since I started working with Tags in the early days of Flickr, my usage has 
matured dramatically.  So far, I have not found any open-source system as 
powerful for tagging as TiddlyWiki.  Based on my experience to date, I 
would try to render the article's ... "building a second brain knowledge 
life cycle"
as an upwardly growing cone or spiral since I feel that depicts observation 
that "the more you know, the more you can learn".  That could also depict 
the idea that disseminating the information can take place an many 
different vertical levels.

Thanks for posting it.

Regards,
Hans

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[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags

2019-05-20 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Bilmas, I think part of it can be borrowed to explain why tag is 
useful in Tiddlywiki.com!
Many of us do not use tags effectively in PKM.

And to Jeremy: based on this text we can say Tiddlywiki is a PKM tool! one 
of the best may be.

--Mohammad

On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 10:58:30 AM UTC+4:30, bimlas wrote:
>
> Personal Knowledge Management (PKM)  is the practice of capturing the 
>> ideas and insights we encounter in our daily life, whether from personal 
>> experience, from books and articles, or from our work, and cultivating them 
>> over time to produce more creative, higher quality work. I teach people how 
>> to master PKM in my online course Building a Second Brain.
>> By collecting our knowledge in a centralized place outside of our own 
>> heads, we can create an engine of creative output – a “second brain” – to 
>> advance a career, build a business, or pursue a passion. By making this 
>> knowledge digital, we can reap the benefits of searchability, backups, 
>> syncing between devices, sharing with others, and more.
>> But there’s one aspect of personal knowledge management I haven’t fully 
>> addressed, which is tags. In the past, I criticized tags harshly as being 
>> too taxing, overly complicated, and low value for the effort required. I 
>> advised people not to use tags to manage their knowledge, favoring 
>> notebooks or folders instead.
>> But I’ve changed my mind since then. Over several years of observations, 
>> findings, and experiments, I’ve come to believe that tags could be the 
>> missing link in making our knowledge collections truly adaptable – able to 
>> reorient and reconfigure themselves on the fly to enable any goal we wish 
>> to pursue.
>> Let me tell you what I believe is required to unlock the immense 
>> potential of tagging for personal knowledge management.
>
>
>
> https://praxis.fortelabs.co/a-complete-guide-to-tagging-for-personal-knowledge-management/
>

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[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags

2019-05-20 Thread bimlas
Just found, not my writing. My Google Translate English knowledge is not 
enough for such a long text. :D

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[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags

2019-05-20 Thread PMario
Hi, 

Thx for sharing the link. ... Is this a find, or your text?

-m

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