[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-12 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark Could you start a new thread? This one has started paginating. Best wishes TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-12 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark Looking & working good! I'm actively using it. I'll create another case example over the next few days. Best wishes TT On Saturday, 11 July 2020 06:23:19 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > > v0.0.8 Adds the ability to specify your own split-by string > > > > >

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
v0.0.8 Adds the ability to specify your own split-by string https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey.html > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-10 Thread David Gifford
Just saw this. Very nice addition to NotoWritey! On Monday, July 6, 2020 at 5:22:37 PM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote: > > There is now a Publication/Read-only mode. Hopefully I didn't break > anything making it, because a lot of CSS got moved around. The button is > down in the settings. Once you're in

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-09 Thread TW Tones
Looks like you solved this https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/hDQbb3bSC2k Perhaps post the solution? TW Tones On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 11:47:14 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > Thanks for the heads up. Technically, it was working fine. But you > probably

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-09 Thread TW Tones
Thanks now working I was not aware the whole vim editor was or could be embedded, would not have though I could be in Vim. Regards Tony On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 11:47:14 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > Thanks for the heads up. Technically, it was working fine. But you >

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Tony, Thanks for the heads up. Technically, it was working fine. But you probably weren't in the mood to learn Vim today ;-) I *think* I've got a new version posted that should work OK. It looks like I need to add another step to my production cycle to be sure I've removed the developer's

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-09 Thread TW Tones
Mark, Thanks for the continued development here. Unfortunately I seem to have lost the ability to edit the tiddlers, it edit mode does not accept key strokes, both Chrome/FireFox. It is acting like there was a stuck key, typing a letter jumps to that letter with a green cursor. On testing

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
New in vsn 0.0.7 . Neatened up export options. Added text export option. Added backup to zip file option. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-07 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark Okay. Now I'm wondering about presentation in Edit Mode but just for *"documents" not "outlines"*, i.e. the outliner buttons hidden but otherwise works as normal. Possible, or do or we still need the 2 Noto variants? Best wishes TT Mark S. wrote: > > > There is now a

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-07 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark *Request. *Could you add the "plain text" render option to Noto? I would then have access to all three Capture Modes in Noto. I am finding it invaluable in document making. Best wishes TT Mark S. wrote: > > I like dropping in a macro and ... away you go. I don't want things to >

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-07 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Great stuff! It's really shaping up. Much appreciated by users I'm sure! TT Mark S. wrote: > > > There is now a Publication/Read-only mode. Hopefully I didn't break > anything making it, because a lot of CSS got moved around. The button is > down in the settings. Once you're in the view

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-06 Thread TW Tones
Mark, See here, I have re-released the beta for my local-viewtemplate field. Just create the field on any install and type `<>` Regards Tony On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 10:45:35 AM UTC+10, TW Tones wrote: > > Mark, > > You have persuaded me to make a button. I personally do not like putting >

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-06 Thread Birthe C
Mark S, Wow, That is an elegant solution. I think you can be sure, that NotoWritey will get many users, when more people find out how handy it is. My friend visited and saw me using Noto. He would like something like that too, and for once he did not scare off when I had to remind him, that

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-06 Thread TW Tones
Mark, You have persuaded me to make a button. I personally do not like putting macros in the text field to define what the wiki does. I prefer to use the text field for content. I already created a view template field in tiddlers who's content is then transcluded in the view template, in this

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I like dropping in a macro and ... away you go. I don't want things to become too complicated. Unfortunately, the toolbar doesn't know about the *contents* of it's tiddler. That is, it doesn't know anything about the macro it contains. And, of course, someone could, in a spate of cruelty, put

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-06 Thread TW Tones
Mark, Beautiful. The read mode caps the whole project off, from brainstorm to publishing thanks. You seem reluctant to use a viewToolbar button, shall I create one that becomes visible when in publish mode? Regards Tony On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 8:22:37 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote: > > >

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
There is now a Publication/Read-only mode. Hopefully I didn't break anything making it, because a lot of CSS got moved around. The button is down in the settings. Once you're in the view mode, to get back to regular mode hover over the bottom of the "document" (usually the bottom of the

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-06 Thread TiddlyTweeter
TW Tones wrote: > > I think the view/copy the wiki text version may deserve a special button, > one I wonder if we could make a generic one, or is it too tool specific? > Ciao Tones & Mark I'd like to chip in on this. As far as I understand it there are *three* "capture/snap" modes ... 1.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark Very nice! One comment (which I can probably do myself with CSS eventually) is to keep edit box SAME WIDTH it is in view mode. Why? Maintains *visual continuity* between the two modes such that the layout of text would be identical in both view & edit modes (assuming same font is

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
> > TW Tones wrote: >> >> > >>- *If you could provide a way to make the noto view be in a read >>mode, I can just snapshot that read mode view.* >> >> Mark S: > So that mode would be basically removing the hamburger menus and the > bottom settings? > > > An alternative way for you to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread TW Tones
Mark, You and I are on opposite day/night schedules, so I'm keeping my response > short. > > Yes it sometimes gets lonely in Australia during the day, and things heat up when I am going to bed :( That looks pretty neat! I could be wrong, but I think the 2nd click is > capturing an image of

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
You and I are on opposite day/night schedules, so I'm keeping my response short. On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 9:35:12 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote: > > > I have a build a Generic snapshot inspired by your copy to > clipboard/tiddler. It is only version 0.1 but not far from completion. If > you

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread TW Tones
Mark, I have a build a Generic snapshot inspired by your copy to clipboard/tiddler. It is only version 0.1 but not far from completion. If you install this on a fresh copy of noto you can see its functionality. Actually it was mostly seeing your use of using wikify and its html output. That

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread TW Tones
Mark > Do you mean a view mode as straight text, or a view mode that retains the > outline indenting? > Retains the outline (expanded) > > A reading mode would be nice, but it would probably take a bit of thought. > When the "hamburg" menu disappears, a lot of the CSS is likely to need >

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread Birthe C
Mark S, I like the "hamburg" menu, one glimpse and we know instantly that here NotoWritey are at work. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread Birthe C
Mark S, I do understand. I only diminished the view in my browser. When we do that in Tiddlywiki, the left and right side of the tiddler-frame gets smaller - that is default. Limiting the padding of your buttons, it is possible to use them in that view. Sorry - I know I am bad at explaining.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Tony, Do you mean a view mode as straight text, or a view mode that retains the outline indenting? A reading mode would be nice, but it would probably take a bit of thought. When the "hamburg" menu disappears, a lot of the CSS is likely to need tweaking. And, where would the toggle view

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Birthe, Thanks for the feedback! When you say "mobile" view, do you mean some special view mode, or do you mean on a mobile device? How big is your screen? When I try it on my tablet, I'm able to see the edit icons in landscape mode. I'm also able to see them in portrait mode, but I have

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread Birthe C
Mark S, Great tool getting even better. In mobile view you can not see the edit buttons though. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-05 Thread TW Tones
Mark, Looking good and very usable. It it possible to toggle off the features, outliner etc... but still see the resulting content? As I said before I love the various copy buttons you have, they are brilliant, and they generate such a view but just wondering if we can toggle off the outline

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-04 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
New release! Now you can edit in a nearly distraction-free way. When you edit, the bottom control section is gone. Floating off to the right is a checkmark control for closing the edit, and a settings cog for bringing up additional choices. There should be screenshots below.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-04 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 11:28:51 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote: > > > > Per request, starting a new thread here. > > As always, make backups because the State department will disavow all > knowledge of your activities. > Although I *think* you can start using NW now, future changes (like field

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-03 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Ok, have updated https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey.html and deleted https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey-2020-07-02.html Plugin has now been updated in new version. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-02 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Happy to hear this is working out! On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 2:49:54 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > > Here's the new version (plugin not ready yet) : > > https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey-2020-07-02.html > > It seemed reasonably performant with the toolmap data, and it is now >

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Here's the new version (plugin not ready yet) : https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey-2020-07-02.html It seemed reasonably performant with the toolmap data, and it is now buffered when editing so typing is unhindered. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-07-01 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I guess this post is more by way of encouraging myself (Go Mark go!) but I think I've made some progress. I've come up with a new algorithm for displaying the documents that seems much faster. It takes about 3 seconds on my old laptop with 8G to render David's 400+ tiddlers whether for

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark P.S. to last, is the populating of the "*reset*" field also a factor in performance? Just wondering? Best wishes TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark & Saq Though I don't grasp coding complexities I can comment from observation ... > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 7:37:00 AM UTC-7, Saq Imtiaz wrote: >> >> The slow performance in Noto reminds me of what happens when editing >> forces a refresh of the containing tiddler or widget.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread Dave Parker
NotoWritey / Notoriety ha ha! I just got that (better late than never :D) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 7:37:00 AM UTC-7, Saq Imtiaz wrote: > > A few quick observations. Note that I work on a very high end desktop that > makes it difficult to gauge performance accurately. For example, the second > Noto document from TT loads in a few seconds for me. However,

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread Saq Imtiaz
A few quick observations. Note that I work on a very high end desktop that makes it difficult to gauge performance accurately. For example, the second Noto document from TT loads in a few seconds for me. However, comparing the performance of Streams and Noto might be insightful. These are

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread David Gifford
That felt really weird to wake up and see something called NotoGifford...I expect royalties... :-) On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 8:52:57 AM UTC-5 TiddlyTweeter wrote: > Mark & Saq > > FWIW, I put on-line two example wiki. * First version works fine on my > machine ... * Has 136 items * Half at

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark & Saq FWIW, I put on-line two example wiki. * First version works fine on my machine ... * Has 136 items * Half at Level 1 * Half at Level 2 ... https://tidbits.wiki/noto/notoGIFFORD.html * Second version was fine at First but once entries (splits) reached about 300 it got sluggish. *

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I imagine the performance hit comes from the way that hiding fold levels occurs. The method I used to structure the document was meant to be highly portable. So you can port all the tiddlers and the tag tiddler to any tiddler, and view them correctly using the <> macro and nothing else. And

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The dynaview, as I understand it, prevents portion of the page to which you have not yet scrolled from rendering. This appeared to work, as you could tell because when you paged down there would be a pause before the page became visible. But it didn't seem to help performance. The dynaview

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Saq Sure, I will. Later today I put it on line. TT On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 10:37:11 UTC+2, Saq Imtiaz wrote: > > @TT could you post the document with TiddlyToolmap imported? I have a > suspicion about where the performance hit on editing is coming from and > comparing side by side to Streams

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@TT could you post the document with TiddlyToolmap imported? I have a suspicion about where the performance hit on editing is coming from and comparing side by side to Streams (in which I have Tiddly toolmap imported) will be a quick way to check if I'm on the right track... Without having to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > I probably won't be pursuing the dynaview option, since that didn't seem > to improve performance. > > > As a reminder, the NW file can be found at: > > > https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey.html > Ciao Mark Regarding performance and Dynaview---looking at the

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark I spent a while working with the outliner. I had hoped to get the entries in TiddlyWiki Toolmap into it (simply to help me track issues I want to report to David.) It brought up the problem I encountered before with performance. My current impression in Outliner Mode Noto does a

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-30 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: Below is a modified $:/core/macros/export > tiddler. Now when you click on the "export tiddler" option, you get two > more choices. One copies the rendered tiddler to HTML, and the other copies > to plain text. > > I don't think copying the all-up wikitext would be easy.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-29 Thread TW Tones
Thanks mark, Much appreciated. I will shareback, but these exporters are nice tool in their own right. The ability to create a tiddler directly containing the HTML is also desirable. I intend to have a snapshot of tiddlername > $:/shanpshot/tiddlername and allow this to be displayed instead

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-29 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
In case I write over it, I've put $:/core/macros/export here as well: https://marxsal.github.io/various/playground.html On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 1:26:48 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote: > > > Hi Tony, > > On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 9:20:13 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote: >> >> I have being trying to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-29 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Tony, On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 9:20:13 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote: > > I have being trying to replicate your buttons to take snapshots of other > tiddlers as html, wikitext to clipboard and tiddler. I am however > foundering. > > If you ever feel so inclined I would love toolbar icons to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-28 Thread TW Tones
Mark, Thanks so much for this solution and the updates. - Perhaps one day you may allow us to toggle the display of the notowritey settings, just for a cleaner screen. - Perhaps it could be put behind the info tab with $:/tags/TiddlerInfo once the setup is complete. - I plan to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-28 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I thought I'd add a little to the documentation, and then I discovered a bug in the split routine. I'm surprised no one else came across it. Hopefully it's fixed now. Plugins are now a standard part of the NW distribution. So any time you want to upgrade your existing NW file you can just

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-21 Thread Birthe C
Mark S, TW Tones could be right. I have been playing with the editor, the outliner and they just works. I have been using the outliner each day since the first version because I find it useful. I just do not have anything intelligent to add to that. I am sure it will be a loved addition to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-21 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I doubt that is the issue. Just saying TT On Sunday, 21 June 2020 02:28:59 UTC+2, TW Tones wrote: > > Mark, > > I think feedback on Noto, could be like when I practice french with a > native speaker, When I get it wrong the feed back is confusion, quizzical > looks, questions and possible

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-21 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > ... I was hoping there would be more interest in either the outliner or > the editor. Perhaps I misjudged the need. > Me too. Its, I think, the usual TW story. Not that many people here & right now I count 4 variations on inline-ish editing going on. That is a lot for our

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-21 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: It seems like being able to configure the split phrase dynamically might be useful. Certainly for users like me who like regex it would be useful. Better than having to hack your code. What I like about Noto a lot is once a user got their "doc" prepped its a doddle to slice

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-20 Thread TW Tones
Mark, I think feedback on Noto, could be like when I practice french with a native speaker, When I get it wrong the feed back is confusion, quizzical looks, questions and possible laughter, when I get it right there is no feedback at all, they simply respond to the meaning of what I say. The

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-20 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > > I'm wondering if I could rig the editor to switch between the two modes, so > you could do larger, flatter documents in the plain editor but then have > the outliner available when editing smaller, or more folded, documents. > I don't know if its two things or one.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-20 Thread TiddlyTweeter
On Saturday, 20 June 2020 21:28:47 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback, TT! > > It seems like for your purposes the "flat" editor is proving more useful, > even though it's older and lacking some of the new editor features (join > next x tiddlers, reset changes). > > I'm

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-20 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > It seems like for your purposes the "flat" editor is proving more useful, > even though it's older and lacking some of the new editor features (join > next x tiddlers, reset changes). > Actually I think the more sophisticated outliner is great too. "Flat edit" just is what

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-20 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Thanks for the feedback, TT! It seems like for your purposes the "flat" editor is proving more useful, even though it's older and lacking some of the new editor features (join next x tiddlers, reset changes). I'm wondering if I could rig the editor to switch between the two modes, so you

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-20 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark This is still in process but it shows something about Noto *Splitology* that is *really excellent*. I think real world issues are helpful. For a long time I wanted to present (and edit) movie scripts in TW. The problem I always had was that screenplays have an incredibly strict

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-16 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Thanks Mark. Much appreciated. With a bit of luck I'll do a demo of outcome next couple of days. TT On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:24:28 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > I think the only version without splitting was an early version before I > put splitting in. > > The splitting happens in

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-16 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Thot -- I suppose the splitter expression should eventually get it's own configuration tiddler. On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 9:24:28 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote: > > I think the only version without splitting was an early version before I > put splitting in. > > The splitting happens in

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-16 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I think the only version without splitting was an early version before I put splitting in. The splitting happens in DocumentTemplate. There are 3 places the split has to go. Just search for splitregexp . Why 3? One finds the new "sentences" and creates the new tiddlers. The second performs a

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-16 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Update for those on email to my last post in Red. On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 06:46:11 UTC+2, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Ciao Mark > > I'm doing some experiments with *Splitology *in Noto. I can't find the > pre-outliner version? One with the global "splitting" off? I can find 3 > versions of

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-15 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark I'm doing some experiments with *Splitology *in Noto. I can't find the pre-outliner version? One with the global "splitting" off? I can find 3 versions of Outliner. Could you indicate where I can change the regex(?) in the macro(s) that determines the split point so I can modify

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Thanks! Both of them were a little slow to load and there was one "stop script" message for each. Still less than 30 seconds on my refurbished, ancient laptop with 8gigs ram. Once loaded, I can tell dynaview is working. You page down, and the screen is blank. A moment later it renders. So

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-15 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark Here are quick tests I did throwing the "Misery" screenplay into noto ... The are approx 1800 Tiddlers. In reality you'd not use it like that, but chunk into smaller "Acts" of around 150 Tiddlers each. Nonetheless, gives a feel for performances... Test in* Noto Outliner

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Thanks for testing! Once you had the Crusoes (new system of measurement) installed in Dyna View, was performance any better? If not either 1. Having Dynaview doesn't help this kind of TW file 2. I implemented Dynaview incorrectly Thanks! -- You received this message because you are

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-15 Thread TiddlyTweeter
*Notes On Performance At Scale ...* 1.* New Noto But Loading Existing Tiddlers With No Outliner fields... *Having played with the DYNA and non-Dyna OUTLINERs to see if they cope with 500 Crusoes, result ... None of them can take 500 Crusoes UNLESS the extra fields the Outliner version needs

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-14 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Quick answer now, longer answer tomorrow. I got Crusoes working under the DYNA version (well), but not through direct import of existing individual tiddlers which froze. I give more details a domani, when I have time to explain more. Best TT On Saturday, 13 June 2020 22:21:33 UTC+2, Mark S.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-13 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 6:13:29 AM UTC-7, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > > *Possible Problem With Larger Numbers??* arose for me In testing the two > "Various" editions. I cannot get either to work with the 500+ Crusoes. The > wiki & browser (FF) freeze totally, restart required. This is with

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter
You can already hide it if you know CSS. That bottom section is a div with a class ... I'm sure a hider toggle for that section will come from someone in due course. I think its more the overall tool needs settle a bit more first?? Best wishes TT On Saturday, 13 June 2020 06:20:31 UTC+2,

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark Couple of things ... *List Field Order Is Preserved*, I'm pretty much sure, *On Import*. But note the way I tested was to export by using PMario's Bundler. N.B. a "List Bundle" not a "Filter Bundle." I also included the Tag Tiddler. That seems a v. secure method. *Possible Problem

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-12 Thread Dave Parker
Just trying this for the first time - Looks useful!! Just wondering, is there an option to fold away that settings thingie that sits at the bottom of every noto-Tiddler? (might be a bit prettier that way ;) - Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread TonyM
TT, I think your framework idea is nice. But, how, practically, to do it? > > Previously I posted a view template way of adding noto, however I just experimented with the following; ``Introduction`` <> ``Body`` <> ``Conclusion`` <> This approach could be incorporated into a view template,

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Not sure. I got in a mess with unpopulated non-existant tag Tiddlers confusing the issue. I will check out reliability on only extant populated tag Tiddlers & report back. TT On Tuesday, 9 June 2020 18:48:27 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > > [tag[mytag]] should use the list field in "mytag". In my

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I just tried it. Excellent on SINGLE up / down. (Mostly what I'd do.) But the "Move" is AWESOME, with taking *next few with it* or not, to a *destination you select*, with options of *before or after*.. Very useful practically. Simple & understandable. In a word: STUNNING. TT On Tuesday, 9

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao TonyM I'm (early) thinking of "docs" that may have several "noto". How would I design a master "template" that on click would spawn the framework, the several tag tiddlers for noto and the noto instances that are transcluded? I think your framework idea is nice. But, how, practically, to

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I think its a Good "independent fragment" approach. Other ways are not free. TT 2 cents On Tuesday, 9 June 2020 18:54:45 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:24:49 AM UTC-7, TiddlyTweeter wrote: >> >> * Question: On indent & Styling* >> >> I been trying understand how the

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I need to describe the issue better. Not quite there yet. A dopo, J. On Tuesday, 9 June 2020 18:57:29 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > Well, it's stored in it's own tag tiddler. But you knew that. So, I'm > trying to understand exactly how you want the tag to be passed. I suppose > the tag tiddler

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Well, it's stored in it's own tag tiddler. But you knew that. So, I'm trying to understand exactly how you want the tag to be passed. I suppose the tag tiddler itself could be tagged as "nw-doc-tag" so that you could identify all instances. Thanks! On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 2:14:00 AM UTC-7,

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 1:24:49 AM UTC-7, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > * Question: On indent & Styling* > > I been trying understand how the indents work in the Outliner Version. Am > I right in thinking its done using styles that indent the content of the > Tiddler? With styles set by the

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
[tag[mytag]] should use the list field in "mytag". In my quick experiment, the tiddlers appeared to export correctly to the JSON. They even kept the same order when importing, which I found surprising. To have a complete kit, I suspect that you need to export the tag tiddler as well, because

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Added the ability to move one item up or down from the hamburg menu. Also the ability to move multiple tiddlers identifying by first line (or 50 characters of the first line) of tiddlers. Neither of these move tools are "smart" -- they literally move the tiddlers without regard to the fold

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-08 Thread TonyM
TT, I shared an implementation of noto where you do not use the macro in the tiddler, instead it is called from the view template when it finds a noto field which contains the tag. Of course you can do this as well and it makes the tag name accessible in the noto field. Regards Tony On

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-08 Thread TiddlyTweeter
On Monday, 8 June 2020 11:14:00 UTC+2, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Ciao Mark > > *Question: Is The Tag Name Stored Anywhere Other Than In The Macro Call?* > > I.e. any place in addition to <> > > > Reason I ask is in Inter-working with other tools I'd like to be able to > pass the tag name, but

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-08 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark *Question: Is The Tag Name Stored Anywhere Other Than In The Macro?* I.e. any place in addition to <> Reason I ask is in Inter-working with other tools I'd like to be able to pass the tag name, but to do that I'd need somewhere to get it from. Best wishes TT -- You received

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-08 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark *Question: Advanced Search Filter Order?* A naive and, hopefully, simple to answer question ... In there a simple "Advanced Search" filter that will accurately list Tiddlers by tag in same order as list field? Use case. From Advanced Search, Tiddler Commander etc you run filter the

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-08 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > Well, we could certainly make a tool that would rename tiddlers that way, > but I'm afraid that it might blow up some documents. Take TT's "Crusoe" > document as a case in point -- I'm pretty sure some of those entries would > have the same name, and the outcome would be

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-07 Thread TonyM
Mark Thanks for considering this. No need to go out of your way. Once an outline is captured by any means and naming standards, we can use, read, transform it in many ways. I believe the more fundamental a solution the more adaptable it is. Also streams is offering post entry title changes.

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-07 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Well, we could certainly make a tool that would rename tiddlers that way, but I'm afraid that it might blow up some documents. Take TT's "Crusoe" document as a case in point -- I'm pretty sure some of those entries would have the same name, and the outcome would be unpredictable. So the tool

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-06 Thread TonyM
Mark, I see now you may be reliant on the name to maintain structure. Perhaps this idea is for a different tool. Regards Tony On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 2:38:53 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote: > > Mark, > > New from the old thread. > > Do you mean a special saver function, or ?? You can already save a

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-06 Thread TonyM
Mark, New from the old thread. Do you mean a special saver function, or ?? You can already save a set of > tiddlers by saving everything marked with the document tag plus the > document tag tiddler itself. But I suspect you mean something else. Currently if I type in a bullet point, it is

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

2020-06-06 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
For those who want a drag-and-drop solution for their own tiddlers (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!), there's a plugin version of the TW file: https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey-plugin.html It just has the basic mechanism -- no documentation. I didn't test it. Let me know if anything major is

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