Re: [tw] Comments re TiddlyDesktop and External Attachments Plugin

2017-11-16 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Dragging and dropping exactly on the green bar still results in the image 
taking over the screen and inability to access the original TW.

Once I close TiddlyDeskTop and end the nw.exe process and restart, I can 
then re-open the original TW5 file -- but no image has been added.

In an older 5.1.14 file, without the plugin, dropping exactly on the green 
bar imports the image -- but as binary which of course is not what is 
wanted.

Thanks!
Mark

On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 9:53:14 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> I’ll investigate what’s happened, but in the meantime you should be able 
> to recover by deleting the data folder for TiddlyDesktop. In Windows, I 
> think it’ll be something like:
>
> c:\users\yourname\AppData\Local\TiddlyDesktop
>
> I think what went wrong with your drag and drop might be that by dragging 
> to the blank bottom area of the TW window you won’t trigger the drop 
> dialogue. Move around until you see the green bar before you release the 
> mouse. (This bug isn’t TiddlyDesktop specific, and can happen in ordinary 
> browsers too).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On 16 Nov 2017, at 17:45, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> I was interested in trying TiddlyDesktop again now that it had the 
> External Attachments Plugin (EAP).
>
> *Installing*:
>
> The only instructions are in the video, which are aimed at mac users. I 
> unzipped the file and loaded it into a directory reserved for apps without 
> a regular install.
>
> There is no indication which file you are supposed to run. Nothing that 
> starts with "tiddlydesktop." which is what you would expect. I guessed that 
> you invoke it with NW.exe -- Is this right?
>
> After running, not understanding I added a file folder that contains TW 
> files. Then I realized that this wasn't what was meant, and discovered that 
> the Remove button doesn't actually work. I think it may be refusing to work 
> because the folder has no data to provide a title. I eventually used the 
> advanced option to find the tiddler that represented the folder and then 
> delete it.
>
> Next I loaded an empty 5.1.15 tw and then used the plugin manager to 
> download the EAP.  I saved and reloaded the TW. I then dragged an image 
> into the frame. The entire image flooded the frame rather than offering to 
> import. The TW was no longer accessible and I was not able to navigate 
> backwards to the TW. I closed the frame and tried to use the "open" button 
> back in the desktop manager. It would not open.
>
> So, I closed the entire TiddlyDeskTop app and attempted to restart it. It 
> wouldn't restart. I used my Windows task manager to find the nw.exe process 
> and killed it. After that I could restart it.
>
> *Summary*:
>
> * No windows-friendly instructions how to launch
> * Removing entrees doesn't always work
> * External Attachments Plugin doesn't work
> * Dragging in an image will make your TW inaccessible
> * App doesn't shut itself down completely on closing requiring manual kill
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>
> TiddlyDesktop 0.0.9 
> Win 7, 64 home premium
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Re: [tw] Comments re TiddlyDesktop and External Attachments Plugin

2017-11-16 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mark

I’ll investigate what’s happened, but in the meantime you should be able to 
recover by deleting the data folder for TiddlyDesktop. In Windows, I think 
it’ll be something like:

c:\users\yourname\AppData\Local\TiddlyDesktop

I think what went wrong with your drag and drop might be that by dragging to 
the blank bottom area of the TW window you won’t trigger the drop dialogue. 
Move around until you see the green bar before you release the mouse. (This bug 
isn’t TiddlyDesktop specific, and can happen in ordinary browsers too).

Best wishes

Jeremy



> On 16 Nov 2017, at 17:45, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was interested in trying TiddlyDesktop again now that it had the External 
> Attachments Plugin (EAP).
> 
> Installing:
> 
> The only instructions are in the video, which are aimed at mac users. I 
> unzipped the file and loaded it into a directory reserved for apps without a 
> regular install.
> 
> There is no indication which file you are supposed to run. Nothing that 
> starts with "tiddlydesktop." which is what you would expect. I guessed that 
> you invoke it with NW.exe -- Is this right?
> 
> After running, not understanding I added a file folder that contains TW 
> files. Then I realized that this wasn't what was meant, and discovered that 
> the Remove button doesn't actually work. I think it may be refusing to work 
> because the folder has no data to provide a title. I eventually used the 
> advanced option to find the tiddler that represented the folder and then 
> delete it.
> 
> Next I loaded an empty 5.1.15 tw and then used the plugin manager to download 
> the EAP.  I saved and reloaded the TW. I then dragged an image into the 
> frame. The entire image flooded the frame rather than offering to import. The 
> TW was no longer accessible and I was not able to navigate backwards to the 
> TW. I closed the frame and tried to use the "open" button back in the desktop 
> manager. It would not open.
> 
> So, I closed the entire TiddlyDeskTop app and attempted to restart it. It 
> wouldn't restart. I used my Windows task manager to find the nw.exe process 
> and killed it. After that I could restart it.
> 
> Summary:
> 
> * No windows-friendly instructions how to launch
> * Removing entrees doesn't always work
> * External Attachments Plugin doesn't work
> * Dragging in an image will make your TW inaccessible
> * App doesn't shut itself down completely on closing requiring manual kill
> 
> Thanks!
> Mark
> 
> TiddlyDesktop 0.0.9 
> Win 7, 64 home premium
> 
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