Re: [tw] remoteStorage syncadaptor plugin

2018-03-19 Thread Jan 

Hi Giovanni,
I am very happy to read your reply.
My usecase is typical I for wikis used educational contexts. TiddlyWiki 
so far is great for publishing informations but so far it lacks a tool 
to collect feedback.
I would like to have a button in the Tiddler Toolbar which allows to 
post Tiddlers created or modified by students.
So far I use google docs for this; this work well for fields, but it 
gets a drag if you want to collect all the fields of a Tiddler... and 
creating a Tiddler to reimport and publish out of the spreadsheet 
consumes a lot of time.


It would be great if remoteStorage could furnish a solution which 
exports a Tiddlers where the Title is modified to "Modifier_OriginalTitle."


Thanks a lot for what you already achieved, Jan




Am 19.03.2018 um 13:32 schrieb Giovanni Parra:

Hello, Jan, sorry for the late reply.

At the moment the plugin syncs all the tiddlers to a server, but does 
so in a one-by-one basis, so they are stored separatedly on the 
remoteStorage server.


I don't know what do you mean by "export individual tiddlers".
TiddlyWiki itself allows you to drag any tiddler from one TiddlyWiki 
to another and save it there, this functionality works with this plugin.
For other complex cases (I don't imagine any) it is possible to write 
separate apps that connect to the same remoteStorage where your 
tiddlers are saved and operate on some of them individually.
If you tell me more about how would the workflow be for the exporting 
features you envisage maybe I can build it, if it is easy.


On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 9:25:29 PM UTC-3, Jan wrote:

Ciao Giovanni,
I have not really grasped it all, but you seem to have created a
feature i have been desperatly looking for for years.
To get it right: At the moment the plugin would save/sync the
entire TW to a server.
Is it possible to make it export individual tiddlers as well?

I am using TW as a teacher and I am longing for possibilities to
collect the work of my students. So far I made workarounds using
google spreadsheets. But I would really like to export (or better
collect) entire tiddlers.
Would this be possible as well.

It would be great to allow students export to a server and then
have another plugin to browse through these tiddlers an import
those which shall be shared with the other students.

Perhaps just a fantasy but it seems that it never was so close...

Jan

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Re: [tw] remoteStorage syncadaptor plugin

2018-03-19 Thread Giovanni Parra 
Hello, Jan, sorry for the late reply.

At the moment the plugin syncs all the tiddlers to a server, but does so in 
a one-by-one basis, so they are stored separatedly on the remoteStorage 
server.

I don't know what do you mean by "export individual tiddlers".
TiddlyWiki itself allows you to drag any tiddler from one TiddlyWiki to 
another and save it there, this functionality works with this plugin.
For other complex cases (I don't imagine any) it is possible to write 
separate apps that connect to the same remoteStorage where your tiddlers 
are saved and operate on some of them individually.
If you tell me more about how would the workflow be for the exporting 
features you envisage maybe I can build it, if it is easy.

On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 9:25:29 PM UTC-3, Jan wrote:
>
> Ciao Giovanni,
> I have not really grasped it all, but you seem to have created a feature i 
> have been desperatly looking for for years. 
> To get it right: At the moment the plugin would save/sync the entire TW to 
> a server.
> Is it possible to make it export individual tiddlers as well?
>
> I am using TW as a teacher and I am longing for possibilities to collect 
> the work of my students. So far I made workarounds using google 
> spreadsheets. But I would really like to export (or better collect) entire 
> tiddlers. 
> Would this be possible as well.
>
> It would be great to allow students export to a server and then have 
> another plugin to browse through these tiddlers an import those which shall 
> be shared with the other students.
>
> Perhaps just a fantasy but it seems that it never was so close...
>
> Jan
>

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Re: [tw] remoteStorage syncadaptor plugin

2018-03-07 Thread Jan 

Ciao Giovanni,
I have not really grasped it all, but you seem to have created a feature 
i have been desperatly looking for for years.
To get it right: At the moment the plugin would save/sync the entire TW 
to a server.

Is it possible to make it export individual tiddlers as well?

I am using TW as a teacher and I am longing for possibilities to collect 
the work of my students. So far I made workarounds using google 
spreadsheets. But I would really like to export (or better collect) 
entire tiddlers.

Would this be possible as well.

It would be great to allow students export to a server and then have 
another plugin to browse through these tiddlers an import those which 
shall be shared with the other students.


Perhaps just a fantasy but it seems that it never was so close...

Jan






Am 21.02.2018 um 21:08 schrieb Giovanni Parra:
I've just created this remoteStorage plugin 
 
that autosaves individual tiddlers to a remoteStorage server 
 and would like to get some feedback and 
perhaps some people using it.


I'm just starting to use TiddlyWiki myself (I wrote the plugin before 
starting to use it), so please forgive me if I've misunderstood 
anything about the principles that guide this community.


The basic idea is that your tiddlers will be saved on 
/public/tiddlers//, but you can make it non-public (so 
/tiddlers//) and change  to anything in the 
config tiddler. By default it is "main".


Along with the plugin, I've made available a server on 
https://tiddly.alhur.es/ that will serve you with an empty TiddlyWiki 
with just that plugin installed. After you connect your remoteStorage 
account you'll get your tiddlers downloaded automatically and 
on-demand from your remoteStorage and will be able to browse and edit 
them normally.


If your remoteStorage account is mys...@5apps.com and your tiddlers 
are saved under /public/tiddlers/something/ you can also point people 
to https://tiddly.alhur.es/mys...@5apps.com/something/ and they'll be 
browsing /your/ wiki in no time.


See, for example, https://tiddly.alhur.es/fiat...@5apps.com/main/#Hello

For more information (probably nothing that I haven't written here), 
see the GitHub repository 
.

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Re: [tw] remoteStorage syncadaptor plugin

2018-02-23 Thread Giovanni P 
Hello, Tony.

Before trying to answer you, let me just clarify that I'm not the developer
of remoteStorage or responsible for the protocol.

I don't know if you can host it on cPanel because I don't understand
cPanel, does it have to be packaged as a "cPanel" app to be hosted there?
If not, then I believe it is possible to host it, as there are many
remoteStorage server implementations 
that just store the data as files in the filesystem. It's easy to add
support for storing data on databases also, I believe, if it is not done
yet.

I've seen Noteself mentioned on the CouchDB users mailing list. It was a
great fit. It has inspired me to create the remoteStorage plugin.
remoteStorage also saves data locally -- on an IndexedDB in the browser --
before the user connects a remoteStorage server, so it looks very like
Pouch/CouchDB.

About multiple users, it is not supported on remoteStorage, as it is meant
(I believe) for personal usage of personal webapps -- unless, of course,
you do the very old trick of sharing your account password with colleagues.
It's also possible to share access tokens to individual global-namespaces
(in this case, "/tiddlers"). If there's demand for it, I could implement a
way to bypass the widget login with a token-based login on the TiddlyWiki
plugin.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:52 PM, TonyM  wrote:

> Giovanni,
>
> I am not immediatly in a position to test this but the following questions
> arrise;
> Can I host remote storage on cpanel accounts?
> How will it deal with multiple users both view and edit? Similtaniously or
> serialy.
>
> Have you seen noteself?, It can also use a pouchdb inside the browser
> session so changes can be saved locally to the browser even before the
> equivalent of remoteStorage (couchdb) is connected to. This method may work
> well with your solution.
>
> I hope your solution fits well with tiddlywiki because we still have some
> gaps in hosted tiddlwikis.
>
> Thanks for your contribution.
>
> Regards
> Tony
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