Re: [tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

2018-06-05 Thread David Gifford 
Glad I saw this here, I didn't see it when you came out with it. I added
KeeBoord to the TiddlyWiki toolmap, in its own category, "Writing and
editing - keyboard shortcuts"

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On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 6:49 AM, BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> By the way, I followed the pull request for adding sortcuts by you at
>> Github/Tiddlywiki, and to me it seems they reacts slowly, may be they are
>> very busy!
>> For short-term if I want to use this shortcuts in another wiki is it
>> enough to import the $:/core/modules/startup/keyboard.js.
>>
>
> Yes I think that is the case... there's also a restructuring process going
> on - so reasons may be various.
> I've made a plugin of it in the meantime, because importing only
> keyboard.js is not enough.
> The plugin: http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/
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Re: [tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

2018-06-04 Thread David Gifford 
Yes, great book by Baggini. Every page had something interesting to chew on.

For my personal use I used captions because I wanted more control over
formatting within the outline, and the advantage of ordering list items as
disconnected from the visible titles. But I knew that for public
consumption title links in the outline is easier and more straightforward,
so Noteslam is done that way.



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On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:29 PM, BurningTreeC 
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> @David, looks really good!
>
> I see you are working with the tiddler-captions, I am using the tiddler
> titles directly. Your method has some advantages...
>
> The book seems to be a good reading, too!
>
> BTC
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Re: [tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

2018-06-04 Thread BurningTreeC 
@David, looks really good!

I see you are working with the tiddler-captions, I am using the tiddler 
titles directly. Your method has some advantages...

The book seems to be a good reading, too!

BTC

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Re: [tw5] Re: An Outliner StoryView Prototype

2018-06-04 Thread David Gifford 
Speaking of Noteslam, I am really getting into using it for taking notes on
books.

Here are my notes for one book.
http://giffmex.org/experiments/the.shrink.and.the.sage.baggini.html

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On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:36 AM, BurningTreeC 
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> Hi BurningTreeC
>>
>> Wow that is great! It took me a while to catch on, but when I did...!
>>
>
>> Comment: You are going to need more 'step-by-step' instructions for new
>> users, maybe even help the user create a sample outline. I am still not
>> sure I know how to use it properly. I can see this is going to be really
>> great. But without clear instructions, I can't harness the full extent of
>> its greatness yet. FOMO.
>>
>
> Thanks David, this is a child of your NoteSlam :) !
>
>>
>> Comment: there are times where a tiddler in the outline has no arrow next
>> to it, so I have to click it once to see the arrow, then again to open the
>> arrow to reveal the lower layers. If there were a way to avoid that second
>> step that would be good.
>>
>
> Yes, most of the time tiddlers should be automatically in edit mode and
> one should see the edit template. when a tiddler needs to be clicked then
> it's the view-template - which I need to adapt better
>
>>
>> Idea: maybe a save button for each tiddler in outline view since by doing
>> alt-N the user is creating open drafts.
>>
>
> Yeah that's also a point I'm thinking about - tiddlers get automatically
> saved when new subtiddlers get created - but remain draft tiddlers
> I want to refine the saving somehow so that they always get saved without
> extra saving-interaction... don't know if it's a bad idea but it's somehow
> in the spirit of "fast-outlining"
>
>>
>> Idea: a smaller font size will allow more of the outline to be visible on
>> screen.
>>
>
> Alt-Dash makes the font smaller, Alt-Plus makes it bigger. I consider
> making it one/two steps smaller by default
>
>>
>> Again, this is a really great and promising piece of work. I have added
>> it to the toolmap even though it still a prototype, so people who go there
>> can get the link.
>>
>> Thanks, I always appreciate your List being accessible for all and your
> work keeping it up to date!
>
>
> BTC
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