Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
My main issue with the new platform at the moment is that they've replaced the repository browser. Instead of ViewVC, it's now their own version that, frankly, sucks. There are a lot of beta users, including me, complaining about this. I am hoping they address that issue or provide a ViewVC option before the new SF platform is released. I migrated libjpeg-turbo and have regretted it, because I use the online repo browser enough that not having a fully functional one has been an impediment. On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: > > Hi. As you perhaps know, Sourceforge is introducing a new platform called > "Allura". Old projects can quite easily migrate. > There are several advantages of doing so: > > * SF want projects to migrate, and they are not working on the old framework > any longer. Support cases are often closed with > "wont fix". > > * The new interface is nicer and should be easier to use. > > More details about Allura can be found here: > https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ > > I think we should proceed with the migration to Allura, but if anyone > objects, please say so. If there are no objections, I will do the migration > 2012-11-29. Please note that the SVN URL will be changed. > > Rgds, --- > Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer > Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com > Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc > 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc > Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 > -- > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > ___ > Tigervnc-devel mailing list > Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
Oh, thanks for pointing this out. Can you describe more in detail what features are missing? Have you reported this to https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/ ? Rgds, Peter On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: My main issue with the new platform at the moment is that they've replaced the repository browser. Instead of ViewVC, it's now their own version that, frankly, sucks. There are a lot of beta users, including me, complaining about this. I am hoping they address that issue or provide a ViewVC option before the new SF platform is released. I migrated libjpeg-turbo and have regretted it, because I use the online repo browser enough that not having a fully functional one has been an impediment. On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: Hi. As you perhaps know, Sourceforge is introducing a new platform called "Allura". Old projects can quite easily migrate. There are several advantages of doing so: * SF want projects to migrate, and they are not working on the old framework any longer. Support cases are often closed with "wont fix". * The new interface is nicer and should be easier to use. More details about Allura can be found here: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ I think we should proceed with the migration to Allura, but if anyone objects, please say so. If there are no objections, I will do the migration 2012-11-29. Please note that the SVN URL will be changed. Rgds, --- Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel --- Peter Åstrand ThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689-- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
I added a brief list of critical features that I think are missing from the new SVN viewer on this bug report: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/480/ Since posting this, they have fixed (2) [apparently a bug] and addressed (4) with the new "Browse Commits" feature. However, the ability to pull up a revision history for just one file and diff between arbitrary revisions of that file is critical. You can follow links in the ticket above to get to about a dozen more tickets regarding user complaints about the new code viewer. On 11/21/12 9:26 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: > > Oh, thanks for pointing this out. Can you describe more in detail what > features are missing? Have you reported this to > https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/ ? > > Rgds, > Peter > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: > >> My main issue with the new platform at the moment is that they've >> replaced the repository browser. Instead of ViewVC, it's now their own >> version that, frankly, sucks. There are a lot of beta users, including >> me, complaining about this. I am hoping they address that issue or >> provide a ViewVC option before the new SF platform is released. I >> migrated libjpeg-turbo and have regretted it, because I use the online >> repo browser enough that not having a fully functional one has been an >> impediment. >> >> On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. As you perhaps know, Sourceforge is introducing a new platform >>> called "Allura". Old projects can quite easily migrate. >>> There are several advantages of doing so: >>> >>> * SF want projects to migrate, and they are not working on the old >>> framework any longer. Support cases are often closed with >>> "wont fix". >>> >>> * The new interface is nicer and should be easier to use. >>> >>> More details about Allura can be found here: >>> https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ >>> >>> I think we should proceed with the migration to Allura, but if anyone >>> objects, please say so. If there are no objections, I will do the >>> migration 2012-11-29. Please note that the SVN URL will be changed. >>> >>> Rgds, --- >>> Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer >>> Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com >>> Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc >>> 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc >>> Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 >>> -- >>> >>> Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single >>> web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, >>> SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. >>> Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov >>> ___ >>> Tigervnc-devel mailing list >>> Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel >> >> -- >> >> Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single >> web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, >> SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. >> Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov >> ___ >> Tigervnc-devel mailing list >> Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel >> > > > --- > Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer > Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com > Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc > 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc > Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 > > > -- > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > > > > ___ > Tigervnc-devel mailing list > Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel > -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
Thanks, I'm now subscribing to that ticket. So, do you (or anybody else) consider the limited ViewVC-replacement a show stopper for the Allura migration? I agree with you that this should really be fixed. OTOH, as a developer, you could use "real" Subversion clients instead to view this information. Several GUIs are available, in addition to the command line tools. And hopefully, the code viewer in Allura will be fixed eventually. My suggestion is thus that we proceed with the migration. Rgds, Peter On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: I added a brief list of critical features that I think are missing from the new SVN viewer on this bug report: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/480/ Since posting this, they have fixed (2) [apparently a bug] and addressed (4) with the new "Browse Commits" feature. However, the ability to pull up a revision history for just one file and diff between arbitrary revisions of that file is critical. You can follow links in the ticket above to get to about a dozen more tickets regarding user complaints about the new code viewer. On 11/21/12 9:26 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: Oh, thanks for pointing this out. Can you describe more in detail what features are missing? Have you reported this to https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/ ? Rgds, Peter On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: My main issue with the new platform at the moment is that they've replaced the repository browser. Instead of ViewVC, it's now their own version that, frankly, sucks. There are a lot of beta users, including me, complaining about this. I am hoping they address that issue or provide a ViewVC option before the new SF platform is released. I migrated libjpeg-turbo and have regretted it, because I use the online repo browser enough that not having a fully functional one has been an impediment. On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: Hi. As you perhaps know, Sourceforge is introducing a new platform called "Allura". Old projects can quite easily migrate. There are several advantages of doing so: * SF want projects to migrate, and they are not working on the old framework any longer. Support cases are often closed with "wont fix". * The new interface is nicer and should be easier to use. More details about Allura can be found here: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ I think we should proceed with the migration to Allura, but if anyone objects, please say so. If there are no objections, I will do the migration 2012-11-29. Please note that the SVN URL will be changed. Rgds, --- Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel --- Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Do
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:09:12 +0100 (CET) Peter Åstrand wrote: > So, do you (or anybody else) consider the limited ViewVC-replacement a > show stopper for the Allura migration? Yes. A real repository browser is a major feature especially for people who are very marginally involved but need to take a look at the source from time to time (I'm in that case). -- Greetings, A. Huillet -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
I fall into that category too. I am glad DRC brought the viewer to my attention. I really hope none of the projects I work with move to this until these issues are fixed. I really would have expected more fore thought to components like this. The annotated side by side diffs and easy drill down browsing of changes are the most used features of a Web based version control browser in my experience anyway... On Nov 27, 2012 3:13 AM, "Arthur Huillet" wrote: > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:09:12 +0100 (CET) > Peter Åstrand wrote: > > > So, do you (or anybody else) consider the limited ViewVC-replacement a > > show stopper for the Allura migration? > > Yes. A real repository browser is a major feature especially for people > who are > very marginally involved but need to take a look at the source from time to > time (I'm in that case). > > -- > Greetings, > A. Huillet > > > -- > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > ___ > Tigervnc-devel mailing list > Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel > -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
I agree that the ability to diff a single file from the web browser is too important a feature to give up without some compelling reason to do so. I'd like to wait until this is addressed before migrating to Allura. -brian On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Robert Goley wrote: > I fall into that category too. I am glad DRC brought the viewer to my > attention. I really hope none of the projects I work with move to this > until these issues are fixed. I really would have expected more fore > thought to components like this. The annotated side by side diffs and easy > drill down browsing of changes are the most used features of a Web based > version control browser in my experience anyway... > On Nov 27, 2012 3:13 AM, "Arthur Huillet" wrote: > >> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:09:12 +0100 (CET) >> Peter Åstrand wrote: >> >> > So, do you (or anybody else) consider the limited ViewVC-replacement a >> > show stopper for the Allura migration? >> >> Yes. A real repository browser is a major feature especially for people >> who are >> very marginally involved but need to take a look at the source from time >> to >> time (I'm in that case). >> >> -- >> Greetings, >> A. Huillet >> >> >> -- >> Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single >> web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, >> SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. >> Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov >> ___ >> Tigervnc-devel mailing list >> Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel >> > > > -- > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > ___ > Tigervnc-devel mailing list > Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel > > -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
Ok, let's do that then. Don't forget to subscribe to the SF issue, and perhaps nag them about it, so that they understand that this is a major problem. Rgds, Peter On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Brian Hinz wrote: I agree that the ability to diff a single file from the web browser is too important a feature to give up without some compelling reason to do so. I'd like to wait until this is addressed before migrating to Allura. -brian On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Robert Goley wrote: I fall into that category too. I am glad DRC brought the viewer to my attention. I really hope none of the projects I work with move to this until these issues are fixed. I really would have expected more fore thought to components like this. The annotated side by side diffs and easy drill down browsing of changes are the most used features of a Web based version control browser in my experience anyway... On Nov 27, 2012 3:13 AM, "Arthur Huillet" wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:09:12 +0100 (CET) Peter Åstrand wrote: > So, do you (or anybody else) consider the limited ViewVC-replacement a > show stopper for the Allura migration? Yes. A real repository browser is a major feature especially for people who are very marginally involved but need to take a look at the source from time to time (I'm in that case). -- Greetings, A. Huillet -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel --- Peter Åstrand ThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689-- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
On a side note, if anyone knows of a Subversion "thick client" that has as rich a feature set as this, I'd like to know about it. I am not aware of one that allows you to view a history of a file or a tree in the way that ViewVC does. I really wish SourceForge would just keep ViewVC as an option. They seem to be going all Apple Maps on us here. On 11/27/12 2:09 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: > > Thanks, I'm now subscribing to that ticket. > > So, do you (or anybody else) consider the limited ViewVC-replacement a > show stopper for the Allura migration? I agree with you that this should > really be fixed. OTOH, as a developer, you could use "real" Subversion > clients instead to view this information. Several GUIs are available, in > addition to the command line tools. And hopefully, the code viewer in > Allura will be fixed eventually. > > My suggestion is thus that we proceed with the migration. > > Rgds, > Peter > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: > >> I added a brief list of critical features that I think are missing from >> the new SVN viewer on this bug report: >> >> https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/480/ >> >> Since posting this, they have fixed (2) [apparently a bug] and addressed >> (4) with the new "Browse Commits" feature. However, the ability to pull >> up a revision history for just one file and diff between arbitrary >> revisions of that file is critical. >> >> You can follow links in the ticket above to get to about a dozen more >> tickets regarding user complaints about the new code viewer. >> >> >> On 11/21/12 9:26 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: >>> >>> Oh, thanks for pointing this out. Can you describe more in detail what >>> features are missing? Have you reported this to >>> https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/ ? >>> >>> Rgds, >>> Peter >>> >>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: >>> My main issue with the new platform at the moment is that they've replaced the repository browser. Instead of ViewVC, it's now their own version that, frankly, sucks. There are a lot of beta users, including me, complaining about this. I am hoping they address that issue or provide a ViewVC option before the new SF platform is released. I migrated libjpeg-turbo and have regretted it, because I use the online repo browser enough that not having a fully functional one has been an impediment. On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: > > Hi. As you perhaps know, Sourceforge is introducing a new platform > called "Allura". Old projects can quite easily migrate. > There are several advantages of doing so: > > * SF want projects to migrate, and they are not working on the old > framework any longer. Support cases are often closed with > "wont fix". > > * The new interface is nicer and should be easier to use. > > More details about Allura can be found here: > https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ > > I think we should proceed with the migration to Allura, but if anyone > objects, please say so. If there are no objections, I will do the > migration 2012-11-29. Please note that the SVN URL will be changed. > > Rgds, --- > Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer > Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com > Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc > 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc > Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 > -- > > > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, > vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > ___ > Tigervnc-devel mailing list > Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer >>> Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com >>> Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc >>> 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc >>> Phone: +46-13-214600
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
The closest comparable feature set I have worked with is the WebSVN tool which is similar to ViewVC. I need to find out if or how it can be used on remote repositories though. Might be a hassle to have to setup another web service/site for it but it would be better than managing a different SVN client on each machine (or multiboot OS) I work with. A quick check shows that it supports local and remote SVN repositories. Robert On 11/27/2012 02:26 PM, DRC wrote: On a side note, if anyone knows of a Subversion "thick client" that has as rich a feature set as this, I'd like to know about it. I am not aware of one that allows you to view a history of a file or a tree in the way that ViewVC does. I really wish SourceForge would just keep ViewVC as an option. They seem to be going all Apple Maps on us here. On 11/27/12 2:09 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: Thanks, I'm now subscribing to that ticket. So, do you (or anybody else) consider the limited ViewVC-replacement a show stopper for the Allura migration? I agree with you that this should really be fixed. OTOH, as a developer, you could use "real" Subversion clients instead to view this information. Several GUIs are available, in addition to the command line tools. And hopefully, the code viewer in Allura will be fixed eventually. My suggestion is thus that we proceed with the migration. Rgds, Peter On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: I added a brief list of critical features that I think are missing from the new SVN viewer on this bug report: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/480/ Since posting this, they have fixed (2) [apparently a bug] and addressed (4) with the new "Browse Commits" feature. However, the ability to pull up a revision history for just one file and diff between arbitrary revisions of that file is critical. You can follow links in the ticket above to get to about a dozen more tickets regarding user complaints about the new code viewer. On 11/21/12 9:26 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: Oh, thanks for pointing this out. Can you describe more in detail what features are missing? Have you reported this to https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/ ? Rgds, Peter On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: My main issue with the new platform at the moment is that they've replaced the repository browser. Instead of ViewVC, it's now their own version that, frankly, sucks. There are a lot of beta users, including me, complaining about this. I am hoping they address that issue or provide a ViewVC option before the new SF platform is released. I migrated libjpeg-turbo and have regretted it, because I use the online repo browser enough that not having a fully functional one has been an impediment. On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: Hi. As you perhaps know, Sourceforge is introducing a new platform called "Allura". Old projects can quite easily migrate. There are several advantages of doing so: * SF want projects to migrate, and they are not working on the old framework any longer. Support cases are often closed with "wont fix". * The new interface is nicer and should be easier to use. More details about Allura can be found here: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ I think we should proceed with the migration to Allura, but if anyone objects, please say so. If there are no objections, I will do the migration 2012-11-29. Please note that the SVN URL will be changed. Rgds, --- Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-d
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
Well, if I were going to set up a web tool, I'd just set up ViewVC, since that's what I'm used to, but support for remote repositories in ViewVC is still experimental and has some issues. Because the subversion repositories can't be accessed directly from the project web space on SourceForge, remote access is the only option, and that's certainly going to be a lot slower than direct access (although it may not be terrible if the web tool is installed on SourceForge rather than an external site.) On 11/27/12 1:45 PM, Robert Goley wrote: > The closest comparable feature set I have worked with is the WebSVN tool > which is similar to ViewVC. I need to find out if or how it can be used > on remote repositories though. Might be a hassle to have to setup > another web service/site for it but it would be better than managing a > different SVN client on each machine (or multiboot OS) I work with. A > quick check shows that it supports local and remote SVN repositories. > > Robert > > > On 11/27/2012 02:26 PM, DRC wrote: >> On a side note, if anyone knows of a Subversion "thick client" that has >> as rich a feature set as this, I'd like to know about it. I am not >> aware of one that allows you to view a history of a file or a tree in >> the way that ViewVC does. >> >> I really wish SourceForge would just keep ViewVC as an option. They >> seem to be going all Apple Maps on us here. >> >> >> On 11/27/12 2:09 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: >>> Thanks, I'm now subscribing to that ticket. >>> >>> So, do you (or anybody else) consider the limited ViewVC-replacement a >>> show stopper for the Allura migration? I agree with you that this should >>> really be fixed. OTOH, as a developer, you could use "real" Subversion >>> clients instead to view this information. Several GUIs are available, in >>> addition to the command line tools. And hopefully, the code viewer in >>> Allura will be fixed eventually. >>> >>> My suggestion is thus that we proceed with the migration. >>> >>> Rgds, >>> Peter >>> >>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: >>> I added a brief list of critical features that I think are missing from the new SVN viewer on this bug report: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/480/ Since posting this, they have fixed (2) [apparently a bug] and addressed (4) with the new "Browse Commits" feature. However, the ability to pull up a revision history for just one file and diff between arbitrary revisions of that file is critical. You can follow links in the ticket above to get to about a dozen more tickets regarding user complaints about the new code viewer. On 11/21/12 9:26 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: > Oh, thanks for pointing this out. Can you describe more in detail what > features are missing? Have you reported this to > https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/ ? > > Rgds, > Peter > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: > >> My main issue with the new platform at the moment is that they've >> replaced the repository browser. Instead of ViewVC, it's now their own >> version that, frankly, sucks. There are a lot of beta users, including >> me, complaining about this. I am hoping they address that issue or >> provide a ViewVC option before the new SF platform is released. I >> migrated libjpeg-turbo and have regretted it, because I use the online >> repo browser enough that not having a fully functional one has been an >> impediment. >> >> On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: >> >>> Hi. As you perhaps know, Sourceforge is introducing a new platform >>> called "Allura". Old projects can quite easily migrate. >>> There are several advantages of doing so: >>> >>> * SF want projects to migrate, and they are not working on the old >>> framework any longer. Support cases are often closed with >>> "wont fix". >>> >>> * The new interface is nicer and should be easier to use. >>> >>> More details about Allura can be found here: >>> https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ >>> >>> I think we should proceed with the migration to Allura, but if anyone >>> objects, please say so. If there are no objections, I will do the >>> migration 2012-11-29. Please note that the SVN URL will be changed. >>> >>> Rgds, --- >>> Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer >>> Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com >>> Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc >>> 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc >>> Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single >>> web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, >>> vmware, >>> SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Down
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
Your requirements may not be the same as mine. I have to deal with several OS installations with some in a multiboot environment. I never found a good cross platform SVN tool that had all of the features I wanted. I haven't tested WebSVN in a none local configuration yet but it is generally faster than ViewVC for the testing I did. The SVN link will always be the weakest part though. I may set one up and let you know how it works. Robert On 11/27/2012 03:30 PM, DRC wrote: Well, if I were going to set up a web tool, I'd just set up ViewVC, since that's what I'm used to, but support for remote repositories in ViewVC is still experimental and has some issues. Because the subversion repositories can't be accessed directly from the project web space on SourceForge, remote access is the only option, and that's certainly going to be a lot slower than direct access (although it may not be terrible if the web tool is installed on SourceForge rather than an external site.) On 11/27/12 1:45 PM, Robert Goley wrote: The closest comparable feature set I have worked with is the WebSVN tool which is similar to ViewVC. I need to find out if or how it can be used on remote repositories though. Might be a hassle to have to setup another web service/site for it but it would be better than managing a different SVN client on each machine (or multiboot OS) I work with. A quick check shows that it supports local and remote SVN repositories. Robert On 11/27/2012 02:26 PM, DRC wrote: On a side note, if anyone knows of a Subversion "thick client" that has as rich a feature set as this, I'd like to know about it. I am not aware of one that allows you to view a history of a file or a tree in the way that ViewVC does. I really wish SourceForge would just keep ViewVC as an option. They seem to be going all Apple Maps on us here. On 11/27/12 2:09 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: Thanks, I'm now subscribing to that ticket. So, do you (or anybody else) consider the limited ViewVC-replacement a show stopper for the Allura migration? I agree with you that this should really be fixed. OTOH, as a developer, you could use "real" Subversion clients instead to view this information. Several GUIs are available, in addition to the command line tools. And hopefully, the code viewer in Allura will be fixed eventually. My suggestion is thus that we proceed with the migration. Rgds, Peter On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: I added a brief list of critical features that I think are missing from the new SVN viewer on this bug report: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/480/ Since posting this, they have fixed (2) [apparently a bug] and addressed (4) with the new "Browse Commits" feature. However, the ability to pull up a revision history for just one file and diff between arbitrary revisions of that file is critical. You can follow links in the ticket above to get to about a dozen more tickets regarding user complaints about the new code viewer. On 11/21/12 9:26 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: Oh, thanks for pointing this out. Can you describe more in detail what features are missing? Have you reported this to https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/ ? Rgds, Peter On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, DRC wrote: My main issue with the new platform at the moment is that they've replaced the repository browser. Instead of ViewVC, it's now their own version that, frankly, sucks. There are a lot of beta users, including me, complaining about this. I am hoping they address that issue or provide a ViewVC option before the new SF platform is released. I migrated libjpeg-turbo and have regretted it, because I use the online repo browser enough that not having a fully functional one has been an impediment. On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Peter Åstrand wrote: Hi. As you perhaps know, Sourceforge is introducing a new platform called "Allura". Old projects can quite easily migrate. There are several advantages of doing so: * SF want projects to migrate, and they are not working on the old framework any longer. Support cases are often closed with "wont fix". * The new interface is nicer and should be easier to use. More details about Allura can be found here: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ I think we should proceed with the migration to Allura, but if anyone objects, please say so. If there are no objections, I will do the migration 2012-11-29. Please note that the SVN URL will be changed. Rgds, --- Peter ÅstrandThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio ABhttp://cendio.com Teknikringen 8http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 ---
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Migration to Allura
This is a roll-up of the relevant Allura code viewer features/fixes that I believe are necessary for SF to address in order to provide an environment as usable as ViewVC. If you have a SF account, please consider voting these up so we can get SourceForge's attention. Whenever a user clicks on the "Code" button, use HEAD as the default repository view rather than a sticky revision: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/tickets/5120/ Provide a means of viewing in-repository static HTML and TXT files directly in the browser: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/tickets/5772/ Provide more information (commit time, full commit message, file size, download/view links, etc.) in history view: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/tickets/5773/ Allow diffing between arbitrary revisions in the history view: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/tickets/4929/ Provide one-click access to history view of a file from directory view: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/tickets/5774/ Provide a "copied from" link for files that have been renamed/moved: https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/tickets/5775/ -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
