Re: [time-nuts] Leap second

2006-01-03 Thread Juan Palacio
Hello there, In Spain the Leap second event has been widely covered by national and local media. I have been interviewed by TV, radio and newspares to explain people the reasons for the 'Leap second'. The main interest is centered in Canary Islands; the difrence between Canary's time and UTC is z

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-03 Thread Didier Juges
Hi Johan, I bought the Jupiter essentially to phase lock a 10 MHz reference, to be used to phase lock my test equipment (generators and counters). It has a 10 kHz output that is much more convenient than the 1 pps of most other receivers. But, since I have the thing working and hooked up, I wa

Re: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem

2006-01-03 Thread Didier Juges
Mike, Visual Basic is the normal evolution for old Basic programs like yours. You can directly reuse the source code for most of your algorithms, but you will have to rewrite the user interface. VB makes it really easy to generate a good looking visual interface that will make your program loo

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-03 Thread Johan Swenker
Hello, >>Hello Didier, >> >>The Jupiter GPS receiver (if used in NMEA and not binary mode) has a known >>fault, that it can be 1 or 2 seconds delta to UTC, this is independent of >>the "leap-second" situation. > I use my Jupiter GPS to synchronize my ntp-server. When I ran it in NMEA-mode, I ha

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Tim Shoppa
"Bill Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The thing is, we have lost the 7-12 group, the Boy Electricians, the > Gilbert chemistry sets and the magic of radio. TV promised to be an > exceptional teaching tool, but selfish people with an unending greed > turned it into a behavioral modification to

Re: [time-nuts] Three subjects.

2006-01-03 Thread Jim Miller
On Jan 3, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Dennis O'Keefe wrote: > The Accutron was advertised to be accurate to a minute a month. > Mine was +47 > 1/2 seconds at the end of the month. I no longer have that watch. My father used to work at a small (200 MW) municipal power plant and when I was young (1970s)

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread rlutwak
For those of you with young children... I got my 7-year-old son an introductory kit of "Snap Circuits." If you haven't seen them, try googling it. We got ours from Edmund Scientific. They're great. My 7-year-old has gotten excited about basic circuits and has a better understanding of basi

Re: [time-nuts] Three subjects.

2006-01-03 Thread Daun Yeagley
I know there are some specialists servicing them, but I don't know the names. There is a new Accutron forum on www.watchuseek.com, you might ask there. Speaking of Accutrons, I still have the one I got for Christmas, 1967 (first Christmas present after getting married a couple of months before

Re: [time-nuts] Three subjects.

2006-01-03 Thread Daun Yeagley
Speaking of Accutrons, I still have the one I got for Christmas, 1967 (first Christmas present after getting married a couple of months before). I still have mine, but it needs at least a good cleaning and perhaps repair. I'm wondering if anybody knows a decent place to have one of these worked

[time-nuts] Three subjects.

2006-01-03 Thread Dennis O'Keefe
A leap second project that I was working on ended this morning, too early to be useful. A while back there were comments regarding the handling of leap seconds by the electric power frequency and if electric clocks would take the change into effect. On December 1, I started making a daily recor

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Warner Losh
> In my opinion, the only obstacle to becoming an > electronics hobbyist is the same one that has always > been there, and that is interest. If you are interested, > you will find a way to play. Just look at what people have done with the ZipIt. They have wired serial ports into it (by soldering

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Poul, In my opinion, the only obstacle to becoming an electronics hobbyist is the same one that has always been there, and that is interest. If you are interested, you will find a way to play. -Chuck Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chuck Harris writes: > >> From m

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Rob Seaman wrote: > "A Thread Across the Ocean" by John Steele Gordon. You might also > take a look at Neal Stephenson's excellent article in the December > 1996 Wired (http://wired-vig.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ > ffglass_pr.html). Wired did have a few - very few - good stories > over

[time-nuts] My leap second observations - NOT

2006-01-03 Thread Craig S McCartney
I was all set up to spend Saturday setting up the routines to get the data from my 4 receivers, 2X Z3801A and 2X Z3816 to a log in order to add to the common knowledge of this event. However, Murphy struck in spades. Saturday at ~4:30am (Pacific time) we lost power - restoration happened after

Re: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem

2006-01-03 Thread Mike Feher
Well, do not feel bad if you do not have a ready answer to my question/dilemma. I have been on the phone to some of the top people in this field at MIT LL for the past 3 hours. While they all appreciate my concern none had an answer. But, I feel like I am converging on an answer, even if it is of m

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Mike Feher
I remember as a teenager in the early '60s getting DEC catalogs. They were really comprehensive. Regardless, I was never able to build a computer from their literature. I think the basic concept for the computer I described previously was inspired by an article in Popular Electronics. - Mike Mik

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Rob Seaman
Hi Dan, Thought others might be interested, too. >> I'm reading the history of the first Atlantic telegraph cable. >> Great story full of details like Kelvin's invention of the >> precision galvanometer > > Which book is this? Sounds quite interesting. "A Thread Across the Ocean" by John S

Re: [time-nuts] Web page updated

2006-01-03 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Ackermann N8UR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Priceless. : : John : : : John Miles wrote: : > Cool! Now I can put it [old WWVB] on my iPod next time I go running. Clearly this is a boon to people that want to be stuck in the past :-) Warner

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope? Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:22:32 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chuck Harris writes: > > > From my perspective, things are much easier for the electronics hobbyist > >today

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Bdale Garbee
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 17:22 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > But the question was if it has become (too much) harder to become > an electronics hobbyist in the first place. I don't think it has become harder. It may well have become less attractive in comparison to other things one can do as a

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chuck Harris writes: > From my perspective, things are much easier for the electronics hobbyist >today than they have ever been before. No doubt about that. But the question was if it has become (too much) harder to become an electronics hobbyist in the first plac

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chuck Harris writes: > >> If a kid wants to work in this arena, he will. You ought to see the mass of >> equipment my son access to (that he ignores completely). > > I don't think the question if there is a barrier as much as to what > t

Re: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem

2006-01-03 Thread jayh6
Even though it is much less well known than the venerable GW basic, interpreted BASIC survives even in modern machines as VBScript. Line numbers are gone, but it is much more function oriented, and even has some object capabilities (including elaborate objects that let you interact with windows

Re: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem

2006-01-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Mike Feher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:41:08 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Magnus - Mike, > Evidently not enough. OK, now I know what VB is, but what is a script? - Script is a program in some interprented la

Re: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem

2006-01-03 Thread Mike Feher
Magnus - Evidently not enough. OK, now I know what VB is, but what is a script? - Mike Mike B. Feher 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 -Original Message- From: Magnus Danielson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:35 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com; [

Re: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem

2006-01-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Mike Feher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:26:12 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The problem is I do not even know what you mean by VBS scripts. - Visual BASIC Script. But I am not sure you want to go that route. ;O

Re: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem

2006-01-03 Thread Mike Feher
The problem is I do not even know what you mean by VBS scripts. - Mike B. Feher 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:22 AM To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] Help w/integration problem

2006-01-03 Thread jayh6
BASIC translates really easily into vbs script for Win boxes. >> The URL below is the source code in Basic for the program that I wrote over >> 20 years ago. Since I think you both intend to change it to another language >> the listing should suffice. I have so many great programs in Basic, some

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chuck Harris writes: >If a kid wants to work in this arena, he will. You ought to see the mass of >equipment my son access to (that he ignores completely). I don't think the question if there is a barrier as much as to what the height of it is. It used to be that

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
It's interesting that this is the same discussion the ham radio community has been having for years now, as we've seen the kids that used to become hams diverted to computer-based activities. While I don't personally have a great talent for bringing youngsters in, I'm happy that organizations l

Re: [time-nuts] Web page updated

2006-01-03 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Priceless. John John Miles wrote: > Cool! Now I can put it on my iPod next time I go running. > > -- john, KE5FX > > >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR >>Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:45 PM >>To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Chuck Harris
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Mike Feher wrote: >> I just bought myself a couple of Hakko model 850 hot air surface mount >> soldering stations and various nozzles. > > But that is at quite a considerable cost. Fine if you are a professional > or dedicated hobbiest, but not if you are a child. Popp

Re: [time-nuts] Help - Hope?

2006-01-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Mike Feher wrote: > I just bought myself a couple of Hakko model 850 hot air surface mount > soldering stations and various nozzles. But that is at quite a considerable cost. Fine if you are a professional or dedicated hobbiest, but not if you are a child. It's hard to see how a significant num