Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Purchase Person's list

2007-02-15 Thread Jeroen Bastemeijer
Hello Colin, Seems the Thunderbolt project is growing ;-) From the mails I see on the reflector, I conclude that a lot of people are willing to buy more units (than indicated / listed) if the price is right. Maybe something to consider in the negociations with the seller. For a lower price

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt TPP list

2007-02-15 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Colin, Been off list, I'd take one if it drops below $200. The $250 first bid was determined by the sellers start price. As mentioned before, we have most of the market on this list, we just need to be patient :-) Robert G8RPI. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack?

2007-02-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Thanks much for all that information, Tsuchiya-san! John Masamichi Tsuchiya wrote: I checked service manual for the FTS-1050A/015 that describes parts number as follows: BT1 BTRY, 12V, 5AH 0800-0016 BT2 BTRY, 8V, 5AH 0800-0027 BT3 BTRY, 8V, 5AH 0800-0027 I requested those

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt specs

2007-02-15 Thread Normand Martel
On the Thunderbolt's spex, Allan deviation is shown between 1 and 1000 seconds Does anyone have the AD for longer time periods? 73 de Normand VE2UM (Who already has his Thunderboltmon software, and now waits for the hardware!!!)

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt - Hardware Versions - Performance Differneces

2007-02-15 Thread TheInfamousFlavio
There are different hardware variations of the Thunderbolt out there. There is the commercially available Thunderbolt which available from Trimble that everyone is familiar with, and then there are the industrial versions that are made for the telecoms. The Andrews E-911 version,

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt purchase list

2007-02-15 Thread Colin Bradley
There is the latest list of persons interested in a group Thunderbolt purchase. The total is approximately 60 units. Colin Colin Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 units Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - Hardware Versions - PerformanceDifferneces

2007-02-15 Thread John Miles
I guess it depends on whether you are after a frequency reference or a phase reference. My (commercial) Thunderbolt has no problem delivering 1E-10 or better over 1 second (usually MUCH better). Jitter has never been a problem for me, and I couldn't care less about holdover performance, since I

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola Oncore PVT documenation

2007-02-15 Thread Robert E. Martinson
Hi Randy, Did this PV data get uploaded? Could you please steer me to it? I'm having some problems with the Lucent RFTG units which use the Oncore VP receiver. Regards, Bob Martinson, N1VQR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - Hardware Versions Performance Differences

2007-02-15 Thread TheInfamousFlavio
John Miles wrote: People with Z3801As tend to fiddle with them until the cows come home in my experience, and that's fine if that's what you're into, but... wait, what list is this again? :) I put my info and experience with Thunderbolts out there for the NUTS in this mail list. I have a few

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VP docs

2007-02-15 Thread Geodetics
Bob, I'm afraid not. I'm no longer with Synergy and I don't think they will ever do it. You should email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request the VP Command Reference in case you don't have it. If you can explain your problems I might still be able to help. Randy - Original Message -

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - Hardware Versions - Performance Differeneces

2007-02-15 Thread John Miles
I think a lot of the people on the list are just looking for a good deal on a spare GPS clock. That's my situation, anyway... I'd buy one at $250, maybe a couple at $200 each just for the heck of it, but at more than $250 I wouldn't bother with any. Hopefully the seller doesn't think he has a

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - Hardware Versions -PerformanceDifferneces

2007-02-15 Thread Jason Rabel
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm willing to wait a while (a long while) if it means we could get them for around $100. I have no actual current need for one, I mostly just wanted one (or more if the price is right) just to tinker with and see how it compares. If he isn't willing to come

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - Hardware Versions -PerformanceDifferneces

2007-02-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I'll be honest -- I'm in the same boat. I'd like to get one, well, because it's there. :-) But I'm in no rush and if waiting a month means I can buy two for $100 instead of one for $200, I'll wait. John Jason Rabel wrote: I don't know about everyone else, but I'm willing to wait a

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VP docs

2007-02-15 Thread Jason Rabel
If you need some Oncore PDF, my collection is online at: http://www.rabel.org/archives/Motorola_Oncore/ Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geodetics Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:20 PM To: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - Hardware Versions - Performance Differenences

2007-02-15 Thread Connie Marshall
I don't mind waiting if we can get good price. Be interesting to see if he sell any at the new $375 price. Connie K5CM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:04 PM To: Discussion of precise time

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VP docs

2007-02-15 Thread Robert E. Martinson
Thanks, Jason. It looks like a goldmine! REM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Rabel Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:27 PM To: 'Geodetics'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Motorola

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - Hardware Versions - PerformanceDifferenences

2007-02-15 Thread Norman J McSweyn
Connie and the group: I think he's fishing. The auction has a three day term. One of the rules of ebay is you can list it for any price you'd like. No one has to buy it, though. I'm for sub $200 pricing. I don't need one either. Just another toy. Norm

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - Hardware Versions - Performance Differenences

2007-02-15 Thread TheInfamousFlavio
Take note that it is a very short auction-- 3 day. I would interpret this as the seller trying to do a quick test of the waters--possible nervousness. Note, no minimum bid yet. I still contend there is no market for these items at this price. Only people who don't follow this group will be

Re: [time-nuts] GPS for Spirent Smartbits

2007-02-15 Thread edu
Hi murray At a good price a few ms would be very fine. And you have given me an idea. We already have a NTP server at the labo with a M12 (not the timing version) now the question is to make it mobile... I already need a computer for controlling the Smartbit... so I only need a switch and to

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VP docs

2007-02-15 Thread Alberto di Bene
Geodetics wrote: Bob, I'm afraid not. I'm no longer with Synergy and I don't think they will ever do it. You should email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request the VP Command Reference in case you don't have it. If you can explain your problems I might still be able to help. Randy I

[time-nuts] Austron 1150 OCXO

2007-02-15 Thread Rob Kimberley
Just spotted a new Austron 1150 on EBay Ref: 120086807772 Rob Kimberley ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VP docs

2007-02-15 Thread Randy Warner
Alberto, Jason Rabel has this on his site. I sure am glad I took the time to do this in 2000. Had to scan in 150 pages, run them through a TERRIBLE OCR program, and spend endless hours watching TV and reformatting everything... Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1150 OCXO

2007-02-15 Thread Jason Rabel
Rob, Do you have a spec sheet or pin-out for this model? Jason Just spotted a new Austron 1150 on EBay Ref: 120086807772 Rob Kimberley ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola VP docs

2007-02-15 Thread Alberto di Bene
Randy Warner wrote: Alberto, Jason Rabel has this on his site. I sure am glad I took the time to do this in 2000. Had to scan in 150 pages, run them through a TERRIBLE OCR program, and spend endless hours watching TV and reformatting everything... Randy Randy, thank you for

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt GPSDO

2007-02-15 Thread Didier Juges
This is correct, to the sense that a working GPSDO has sufficient status information that you know with great probability of being right when the device operates per specification, particularly when there is a good GPS signal available from several satellites (3 minimum, 5 is good, more is