Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B low frequency modulation

2007-08-30 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Gold mixes with solder to from an intermetallic that suffers from embrittlement. I am not aware of silver solder being a remedy. I have heard of assembly lines that do not allow any gold whatsoever in the building! I heard

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B low frequency modulation

2007-08-30 Thread John Day
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY See: http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FMAM%2FMAM11_S02%2FS1431927605504483a.pdfcode=7eb044ef7101eff8a8274c4fdfabca59 and http://www.tkb-4u.com/articles/soldering/sgons/sgons.php There is also at least one

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B low frequency modulation

2007-08-30 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard (Rick) Karlquist Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:22 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B low frequency modulation

2007-08-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B low frequency modulation Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:10:56 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B low frequency modulation

2007-08-30 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY When you solder a connector pin that is gold plated, the concentration of gold in the immediate vicinity of the interface is maximum, since you go from pure gold to pure tin/lead and you have all the gradient in-between because

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B low frequency modulation, gold

2007-08-30 Thread Tom Van Baak
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY This is an interesting discussion about gold. Thanks to all those who have posted. My question is -- I've noticed that almost all my old HP instruments, from the 60's and some decades thereafter, use a large amount of gold on

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B low frequency modulation, gold

2007-08-30 Thread Didier Juges
My experience is that thermal cycling and vibration exacerbate the problem very greatly. We have been making both commercial and military products for a long time, and we started seeing the problem in military products much before we ever saw it in commercial products. The intermetallic compound