Re: [time-nuts] FMT on October 13

2007-09-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Tom Van Baak said the following on 09/24/2007 08:57 PM: I would think this is especially true for non-local frequencies, such as one received over the air. I'll leave it to you FMT guys to comment on the magnitude of

Re: [time-nuts] FMT on October 13

2007-09-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Didier Juges said the following on 09/24/2007 09:40 PM: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I guess it depends on signal to noise ratio. With reciprocal counters, you only need one period

[time-nuts] 5370B frequency counter capability

2007-09-25 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I was looking at the wrong plot when I mentioned the noise floor of my 5370B in frequency counter mode; blame my temporary mono-vision after having had some eye surgery! If you look at http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/5370B/index.html *properly*, you'll see that the actual noise floor is

Re: [time-nuts] FMT on October 13

2007-09-25 Thread Tom Van Baak
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY While were at it, in the case mentioned above I'm a curious about their FMT frequency standard -- if it's really accurate to parts in 10^12, as they imply, over 10 minutes. I could believe this if it were an Rb or Cs-based

[time-nuts] Osc. Phase Noise Article

2007-09-25 Thread Had
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In the current (September) issue of the Microwave Journal there is a pretty comprehensive article Oscillator Phase Noise: Theory and Prediction. It may viewed on the Microwave Journal Web site at www.mwjournal.com. Page

Re: [time-nuts] Osc. Phase Noise Article

2007-09-25 Thread Grant Hodgson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY But watch out for the mistakes in some of the equations - e.g. the right hand side of eqn 2 is wrong, but eqn 3 is correct, and eqn 9 is wrong. Don't know if there are any other mistakes, but it's a good article so far -

Re: [time-nuts] FMT on October 13

2007-09-25 Thread Hal Murray
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Make sure not to get near any of the equipment. Free-running oscillators are sensitive to vibration or shock. You've probably heard the story of my best Sulzer oscillator making small phase or jumps which I eventually