Re: [time-nuts] from Sputnik to CD

2007-10-06 Thread Henk ten Pierick
On Oct 6, 2007, at 3:01, Magnus Danielson wrote: If the sample rate is 44.1 kHz then the adev below 1 s, even down to 10 us, or jitter, or the phase noise above 1 kHz are they key parameters; not long-term drift. In this case I'd take a nice 10811A over a typical Rb any day. Does anyone

[time-nuts] OT: Test for NI IEEE-488 interface

2007-10-06 Thread Ulrich Bangert
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Gentlemen, I know this is a bit OT but otherwise I also know that some of you are well acquainted to IEEE-488 data acqusition: Suppose I can test whether the National Instruments DLL for their range of IEEE-488 interfaces is

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Test for NI IEEE-488 interface

2007-10-06 Thread Didier Juges
Ulrich, I do not have a plug-in NI card (I do have a USB type controller from NI though) so I am not sure what I am going to say will work, but it's worth a try. I believe the IEEE-488 controller has its own address (that is not often used, but the IEEE-488 spec requires that), so you should be

Re: [time-nuts] from Sputnik to CD

2007-10-06 Thread Jeffrey Pawlan
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY You are not off base. I know the inventor of the high definition CD standard and he has the patents on the mastering system. He had made for his company a special piece of test equipment to measure picosecond jitter. I

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Test for NI IEEE-488 interface

2007-10-06 Thread Ulrich Bangert
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Didier, I do not have a plug-in NI card (I do have a USB type controller from NI though) so I am not sure what I am going to say will work, but it's worth a try. I am not sure by 100%, just say 99 % but I believe that

Re: [time-nuts] from Sputnik to CD

2007-10-06 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I have paid my dues in the HiFi world, but I have always insisted that there be a solid scientific basis for any product I bought. When faced with claims that picosecond jitter can be perceived by the human ear, my

Re: [time-nuts] from Sputnik to CD

2007-10-06 Thread Henk ten Pierick
On Oct 6, 2007, at 18:48, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: When faced with claims that picosecond jitter can be perceived by the human ear, my flim-flam-o-meter blows a fuse. A 1 nsec phasemodulation of a 44100 kHz clock signal will, worst case, come out to an noise component 87 dB below the

Re: [time-nuts] from Sputnik to CD

2007-10-06 Thread Jeffrey Pawlan
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY You are way incorrect in your reply. Since this is off-topic I will limit my reply to a few salient points. High definition CD is not at 44.1KHz It is much higher so your ratio is off. The A/D and D/A converters they use are

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Test for NI IEEE-488 interface

2007-10-06 Thread John Miles
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi, Ulrich -- I only support the GPIB0 device name in my package, so it's easy enough in my case to do an ibfind(GPIB0). If that returns = 0 (and the ERR flag is not set in the returned value), then I do an ibonl(GPIB0,0) to

[time-nuts] update on SARSAT and Galileo

2007-10-06 Thread Jeffrey Pawlan
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY The current issue of Inside GNSS has a final update on Galileo and GPS bandplans and the coding for each signal. Galileo will carry the new SARSAT, receiving from 406 to 406.1MHz then broadcasting these signals on

Re: [time-nuts] from Sputnik to CD

2007-10-06 Thread Thomas A . Frank
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY If the sample rate is 44.1 kHz then the adev below 1 s, even down to 10 us, or jitter, or the phase noise above 1 kHz are they key parameters; not long-term drift. In this case I'd take a nice 10811A over a typical Rb any

Re: [time-nuts] Ovenaire OCXO pinout needed

2007-10-06 Thread John Miles
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi, Dave -- That doesn't sound entirely comparable to this one, unfortunately. I do have a partial clue: the seller left about a centimeter of wire on each of the 6 terminals. They are: 1 Gray 2 Pink/black 3 Bright red 4

Re: [time-nuts] Ovenaire OCXO pinout needed

2007-10-06 Thread dave powis
OK John - yes that does sound different, and the clues look quite strong! I offered the info on the basis that many manufacturers tend to use a fairly standard pin-out - but maybe not this time! 73, Dave - Original Message From: John Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Test for NI IEEE-488 interface

2007-10-06 Thread Jose Manuel
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Re: [time-nuts] Sputnik

2007-10-06 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 10/5/2007 16:28:21 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, not really a time related post...except for the clock in the CD player...which begs the question, any time nuts play with

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Test for NI IEEE-488 interface

2007-10-06 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Ulrich, I'll be glad to. It's here, somewhere :-) Didier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:18 AM To:

Re: [time-nuts] from Sputnik to TV

2007-10-06 Thread Tom Van Baak
a related very interesting experiment is to take the Horizontal Sync signal from an old Tube-type TV, and feed it to a frequency counter with GPSDO time base (preferrably). Got to be careful about the high voltages inside the TV though! If you use proximity EM field pickup you don't

Re: [time-nuts] Sputnik

2007-10-06 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Sputnik Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:05:15 EDT Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated