Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-08 Thread Henk ten Pierick
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Bruce, Great! Henk On Nov 8, 2007, at 22:11, Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Henk ten Pierick wrote: >> On Nov 6, 2007, at 22:43, Bruce Griffiths wrote: >> >> >>> NIST's AC standard is currently useful for generating frequencies >

[time-nuts] 10544B datasheet

2007-11-08 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Anyone want a scanned copy of a 10544B datasheet? Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

[time-nuts] Isotemp OCXO

2007-11-08 Thread David Smith
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi, I've built a GPSDO using an Isotemp 10MHz OCXO (134-10) as available on eB*y a while back. The OCXO seems to be very slow to respond to changes in the control voltage. I assume there is an internal RC filter or similar

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread christopher hoover
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the cycle time of a typical bang-bang air conditioner cooling a room > full of computers? Modern data centers that are well run are controlled by much more sophisticated control l

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread Bruce Griffiths
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > yes an opamp or two and a microprocessor or two can do the tempco > compensation of course. > > The point of my post was that if carefully matched, this change of EFC > voltage versus heater-current/temperature can actually be designed to cancel > o

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 11/8/2007 17:57:09 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >With some ingenuity and an opamp or 2, either sign can easily be be >accommodated. >Using a length of PCB track for the current sens

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi guys, > > here is a thought: why not use EFC parasitic ground current loops to cancel > out OCXO Tempco? > ___ > > Most single oven heaters will have a significant tempco. >

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 11/8/2007 16:34:16 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >12V supply. The thin wire has no heater current in it so all heater current >drives the OXCO ground pin a fraction of a mV below th

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread Peter Schmelcher
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY >How do you distinguish this effect from oven temperature variations due >to finite thermal gain, particularly with a single oven OCXO? >For small changes the effects are both linear. Bruce many OXCO have an internal voltage r

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hal Murray wrote: >> An illustration of what I meant would be what happens when someone >> opens the door to the lab where the GPSDO is located. The room >> temperature may change by a few degrees over a few minutes time, >> cau

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-08 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Henk ten Pierick wrote: > On Nov 6, 2007, at 22:43, Bruce Griffiths wrote: > > >> NIST's AC standard is currently useful for generating frequencies >> up to >> 100kHz with 10MHz the projected useful limit for a 10Gb/s bit s

Re: [time-nuts] OT: AC voltage standard

2007-11-08 Thread Henk ten Pierick
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Nov 6, 2007, at 22:43, Bruce Griffiths wrote: > NIST's AC standard is currently useful for generating frequencies > up to > 100kHz with 10MHz the projected useful limit for a 10Gb/s bit stream. > With say a 1Mb/s bit stre

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread Hal Murray
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY > An illustration of what I meant would be what happens when someone > opens the door to the lab where the GPSDO is located. The room > temperature may change by a few degrees over a few minutes time, > causing the oven to kick

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY This is interesting. I would like to setup a data logger on a 10811 (with EFC grounded) and record the oven current as well as the output from a 5370 comparing the 10811 to my Thunderbolt and the temperature in my shack. Temp

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY An illustration of what I meant would be what happens when someone opens the door to the lab where the GPSDO is located. The room temperature may change by a few degrees over a few minutes time, causing the oven to kick in (or

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Peter Schmelcher wrote: >> Is the worry, then, about the minor ambient temperature related >> variations in steady-state oven current? Or something else? >> > > Tom the problem is easy to observe by cooling the OXCO with a

Re: [time-nuts] Fury Interface Board: 5MHz needed?

2007-11-08 Thread Peter Schmelcher
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY >Is the worry, then, about the minor ambient temperature related >variations in steady-state oven current? Or something else? Tom the problem is easy to observe by cooling the OXCO with a fan and watching the EFC change. I li