Re: [time-nuts] re low noise regulators

2007-12-16 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Gentlemen, over the last years I have been confronted with numerous nonsense and rubbish technical ideas as part of my job. Over the years I came to the conclusion that just for the sake of clarity it MUST be allowed to call them nonsense and rubbish without applying any political or other

Re: [time-nuts] Time Transfer

2007-12-16 Thread Tim Shoppa
Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have thought the GPS receiver averages the readings when it locks on multiple satellites. Are you saying it only uses one at a time? Average is perhaps too simple of a word. The good GPS receivers (here I'm assuming we aren't talking about Trimble

Re: [time-nuts] Time Transfer

2007-12-16 Thread Didier Juges
Tim, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:29 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time Transfer Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have thought the GPS receiver

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 41, Issue 57

2007-12-16 Thread Ronald Held
i thought of tha balcony option. The balcony as an overhang which effectively blots out the other half of ths sky not covered by the building. I cannot hang any antenna over the railing or on it(in my lease and enofrce;I asked), plus there are birds and squirrels which would get into it. Any other

[time-nuts] newbie questions

2007-12-16 Thread kf6pqt
Hi, My name's Jason, and I must admit to being drawn in by the fascinating article on Wired. ( if that makes me a dork, so be it!) As a kid I thought it was neat to try and set my watches and clocks to WWV from the cheap, crummy 1960's JC-penny all-band receiver , but was always annoyed that the

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 41, Issue 57

2007-12-16 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 16/12/2007 18:17:18 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i thought of tha balcony option. The balcony as an overhang which effectively blots out the other half of ths sky not covered by the building. I cannot hang any antenna over the railing or on it(in my lease

[time-nuts] Unit of Fame

2007-12-16 Thread Doug Millar
How about calling the unit the Borat? Doug Millar ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Unit of Fame

2007-12-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Doug Millar writes: How about calling the unit the Borat? Doug Millar That would be a hard unit to use, because you would have to calibrate out any talent, of which your chosen reference has a non-zero amount. A much better unit would

Re: [time-nuts] Time Transfer

2007-12-16 Thread Tim Shoppa
Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I meant I suppose. The interesting part is that the timing GPS receivers don't continualy try to select the best satellites from all those it can see, so other than eliminating outliers, there may still be some that are not far out enough to be

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 41, Issue 57

2007-12-16 Thread Peter Vince
On Sun Dec 16 17:43 , 'Poul-Henning Kamp' sent: Find a bird-feed where the top-lid is plastic. Mount the GPS-antenna inside the bird-feeder lid. But take some precautions to prevent those pesky squirrels chewing on the cable! Peter Vince ___

Re: [time-nuts] re low noise regulators

2007-12-16 Thread michael taylor
On Dec 16, 2007 6:09 AM, Ulrich Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, over the last years I have been confronted with numerous nonsense and rubbish technical ideas as part of my job. Over the years I came to the conclusion that just for the sake of clarity it MUST be allowed to call

Re: [time-nuts] Time Transfer

2007-12-16 Thread Dave Brown
- Original Message - From: Tim Shoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time Transfer snip-- Yes, it's interesting to look at the WWV signal wander on the HP 3586, compared to it's OCXO, and while

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 41, Issue 57

2007-12-16 Thread michael taylor
On Dec 16, 2007 1:16 PM, Ronald Held [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i thought of tha balcony option. The balcony as an overhang which effectively blots out the other half of ths sky not covered by the building. I cannot hang any antenna over the railing or on it(in my The tiny mag mount antennas

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 41, Issue 57

2007-12-16 Thread Daun Yeagley
Sounds like you need to move! Daun -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald Held Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:17 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 41, Issue 57 i thought of tha balcony option.

Re: [time-nuts] re low noise regulators

2007-12-16 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 12/14/2007 15:00:00 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A simple RC filter of say 2 Ohms into 4700uF has a -3dB cut-off at around 17Hz (4700uF caps are getting quite small these days). That would take care of most of the 100Hz to 10KHz noise. It

Re: [time-nuts] Time Transfer

2007-12-16 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Dave: The HP 114 is a 1 PPS trigger generator with offset and was made for use with WWV, see: http://www.prc68.com/I/TF_rack.html The audio from an HF receiver is fed to the V input on the scope and you can adjust the sweep speed as fast as propagation will allow. The 114 time offset moves

Re: [time-nuts] Upgrading possibilities for more accurate, precise stable time system

2007-12-16 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Ronald: Have a look at the different time transfer methods at: http://www.prc68.com/I/timefreq.shtml#TT Since these involve receiving a signal from a transmitter you need to have a way to know which signals you can get in your building. For example LORAN-C and WWVB are low frequency

Re: [time-nuts] re low noise regulators

2007-12-16 Thread Didier Juges
I think the issue with the series resistor is that the oven current is temperature dependant, so the drop through the 2 ohm resistor is temperature dependant too, regardless of the tolerance or stability of the resistor itself. As long as the current/temperature curve of the oven is predictable,

Re: [time-nuts] re low noise regulators

2007-12-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bruce, The capacitors' microphonic sensitivity may actuallyy be more of a factor here. Are electrolytics microphonic? Ferroelectric (X7R, Z5U,Y5V, X5R, etc but not NP0/C0G) ceramic caps are microphonic It still helps to have as low a noise as

Re: [time-nuts] re low noise regulators

2007-12-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Bruce Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] re low noise regulators Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:19:05 +1300 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bruce, The capacitors' microphonic sensitivity may actuallyy be more of a factor here. Are

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 41, Issue 56

2007-12-16 Thread James Maynard
-- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:53:00 PM PST From: Ronald Held [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 41, Issue 56 My apartment is in a reinforced concrete building, not near the roof. Many years ago I tried a Garmin

Re: [time-nuts] Antennas in apartments

2007-12-16 Thread Hal Murray
i thought of tha balcony option. The balcony as an overhang which effectively blots out the other half of ths sky not covered by the building. I cannot hang any antenna over the railing or on it(in my lease and enofrce;I asked), plus there are birds and squirrels which would get into it.