Re: [time-nuts] Frequency divider design critique request

2008-07-16 Thread Hal Murray
[Context is filtering on inputs from switches.] Could somebody tell me why we are doing anything fancy at all? What's wrong with just a simple pullup? I can think of two cases that might be interesting. One is signal integrity. There might be enough crosstalk to cause troubles. This is a

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency divider design critique request

2008-07-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Hal Murray wrote: [Context is filtering on inputs from switches.] Could somebody tell me why we are doing anything fancy at all? What's wrong with just a simple pullup? Pull down required because of thumbwheel switch encoding. I can think of two cases that might be interesting. One

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency divider design critique request

2008-07-16 Thread Björn Gabrielsson
Magnus is on vacation and has some (net) connectivity problems. I would expect him to be back online within a day or two. -- Björn On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 18:27 +0100, David C. Partridge wrote: I'm waiting to see what Magnus Danielson has to say, as it was he after all who suggested adding

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency divider design critique request

2008-07-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
David C. Partridge wrote: I'm waiting to see what Magnus Danielson has to say, as it was he after all who suggested adding caps in parallel to the pull-downs, and also series resistors. Thinking about it retrospect, I think he may have meant the series resistors to go between the pull-downs

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt monitor

2008-07-16 Thread jshank
The Noritake display looks great. I am hoping that a kit of this proposed Thunderbolt monitor with the Noritake display will be made available through TARP in the near future. I am sure that many of the Thunderbolts which recently became available would benefit from such a kit. Jeff -

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt monitor

2008-07-16 Thread Didier Juges
One issue with the Noritake display (common to all VFD devices) is that it draws over 100mA of current at 5V. A 3 terminal linear regulator running from 12V will need a reasonable heat sink to operate. A better choice would be a small switching regulator such as the LT1375 which I have used in a

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt monitor

2008-07-16 Thread Jeffrey Pawlan
Regarding the VFD display, although they may be very different one manufacturer to another, I can definitely dispute a prior statement made that VFDs in general have a short lifetime and become dim. They are universally used in VCRs, DVD players, microwave ovens, and some clocks. I have never

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt monitor

2008-07-16 Thread John Miles
Yeah, those Noritake parts are very nice. I wouldn't expect trouble from one. There is a slight possibility of additional EMI versus an LCD, obviously nothing that would cause trouble at the end of an RS232 cable. -- john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt monitor

2008-07-16 Thread Thomas A. Frank
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Didier Juges wrote: One issue with the Noritake display (common to all VFD devices) is that it draws over 100mA of current at 5V. A 3 terminal linear regulator running from 12V will need a reasonable heat sink to operate. A better choice would be a small

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt monitor

2008-07-16 Thread Didier Juges
My preference is usually to have a voltage regulator on the board where the expensive electronics is, simply because I use adjustable bench supplies for testing and I also own and use a large number of 9 to 12V wall warts such that I have blown great many parts by inadvertently putting 9 or 12V