Re: [time-nuts] Ancient OCXO in scope calibrator.

2008-09-10 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Neville Michie wrote: Is this calibrator gated? Back in the stone age when I started work, a CRO (with a 5BP1 tube in it) was calibrated in time by a gated oscillator that put little pips on the trace at 1 microsecond intervals. So that the markers would not crawl across the screen the

[time-nuts] Stanford Research FS700 Loran-C Frequency Standard

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Fischer
Hello Community, currently I am trying to revive a Stanford Research FS700 Loran-C Frequency Standard (http://www.thinksrs.com/products/FS700.htm http://www.thinksrs.com/products/FS700.htm ) .It shows an error message Pattern Memory Test FAIL. Unfortunately the O S manual is missing the

[time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, I have just commissioned a temperature control for my LPRO rubidium oscillator. When I read the specs I noticed that at 18V supply and about 40*C the unit only requires about 8 watts. That is getting close to what my stand-alone power source can maintain. Running at a higher temperature

[time-nuts] Which GPS receiver ?

2008-09-10 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Gents, over the course of the last year I have lost track on what is the state of the art in GPS timinig receivers. Is there still something like the MOTOROLA M12+ available or a descendant or a compatible model? Or what would otherwise be the choice of today? Best regards and TIA Ulrich

Re: [time-nuts] Stanford Research FS700 Loran-C Frequency Standard

2008-09-10 Thread Pete
Martin, SRS would be happy to sell a hard copy of the manual to you, but they don't give anything away! Pete Rawson ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and

Re: [time-nuts] Which GPS receiver ?

2008-09-10 Thread Javier Herrero
You've the M12M timing GPS from iLotus, that bought the GPS business from Motorola. Functionally equivalent to the M12+, same footprint, and better characteristics (includes an TCXO so it is lest prone to temperature variations, and also claims improved sensitivity). You can find more

Re: [time-nuts] Ancient OCXO in scope calibrator.

2008-09-10 Thread David C. Partridge
I was probing at the cathode not at G1 FWIW. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Griffiths Sent: 10 September 2008 03:14 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ancient OCXO in scope calibrator.

Re: [time-nuts] Ancient OCXO in scope calibrator.

2008-09-10 Thread David C. Partridge
A completely unused (had to open the perforations on the plastic bag inside the box) NOS nuvistor substitution made no difference to the effect of probing. D. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neon John Sent: 10 September 2008 01:20 To:

Re: [time-nuts] Ancient OCXO in scope calibrator.

2008-09-10 Thread David C. Partridge
Now that's an interesting thought. How should one go about specifying such a part? Do you have any experience of doing this? We'd be looking at (I guess) a turnover from almost short circuit to darn near open circuit over a range of a few degrees centred on 75 celsius. Do such beasties

Re: [time-nuts] Ancient OCXO in scope calibrator.

2008-09-10 Thread Scott McGrath
The interlinked cup hooks are a fuse or fusible link. there may be others as EIA only standardized symbols in the late 60's and Mid 70's Just look in older HP documentation and see how many symbols they used for zener diodes!. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM, David C. Partridge [EMAIL

[time-nuts] Stanford Research FS700 Loran-C Frequency Standard

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Fischer
Hello Pete, thank you for your quick reply. Your comment SRS would be happy to sell a hard copy of the manual to you, but they don't give anything away! exactly matches my experience with this company; they charge $38.50 for a replacement manual, $30 for handling and bank transfer costs, and

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Neville, You said . . . I mounted a12V 1 watt 40mm brushless DC ball bearing fan, . . Damn, is that thing turbo charged ? BillWB6BNQ Neville Michie wrote: Hi, I have just commissioned a temperature control for my LPRO rubidium oscillator. When I read the specs I noticed that at

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread Hal Murray
I have just commissioned a temperature control for my LPRO rubidium oscillator. The next step is to get on with the building of the gear to measure how well the LPRO now performs at constant temperature. How much did it drift before your recent work? How did you measure it? -- These

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Neville, In all seriousness, I thought the Rubidium physics package is heated for reasons. Now that you are heat sinking it, what has happened to the current draw for the whole unit ? Or am I misunderstanding something ? BillWB6BNQ Neville Michie wrote: Hi, I have just commissioned

[time-nuts] Which GPS receiver?

2008-09-10 Thread Murray Greenman
Ulrich, Living where you do, I'd suggest checking out the U-BLOX range of modules. The model you need is the LEA-5T. The LEA-5 family is state-of-the-art, and I believe uses an ATMEL DSP software baseband engine (with reportedly one million correlators!) I have two of their modules (LEA-5H and

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread David Forbes
WB6BNQ wrote: Hi Neville, In all seriousness, I thought the Rubidium physics package is heated for reasons. Now that you are heat sinking it, what has happened to the current draw for the whole unit ? Or am I misunderstanding something ? BillWB6BNQ He's not cooling it, he's

Re: [time-nuts] Which GPS receiver?

2008-09-10 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Murray, the uBlox GPS are very excellent, yes, but their timing accuracy is still nowhere near that of the M12M. They also require external sawtooth correction to achieve the stated accuracy. They do work better than M12's in a mobile environment, and are more sensitive. BTW: I

Re: [time-nuts] Ancient OCXO in scope calibrator.

2008-09-10 Thread David C. Partridge
Out of curiosity, I tried to find something that might do the job. The only PTC thermistor I could find was from Digikey (mfr GE Infrastructure) with a transition temperature in the right range was 70C and rated at only 25 volts, and that was 50 Ohms at 25C :-( D. -Original Message-

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread Neville Michie
Hi Hal, My aim is to run a stable time standard to analyse the long term performance of clocks. Part of this project is to set up a power support system so that logging is never interrupted. Now the LPRO draws less power at lower supply voltage and higher operating temperature and decreasing

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread Neville Michie
Hi Bill, the lamp and detector of the LPRO are both thermostat controlled. At higher case temperature the power to heat them decreases as do the temperature gradients in the device. From 17watts at 32V supply at 0*C it can be reduced to 7.5 watts at 18 v supply and 45*C. Although spec'ed to 70*C

[time-nuts] HP 5355A Heads ??

2008-09-10 Thread Richard W. Solomon
IIRC, someone had some of the heads used to extend the range of the HP 5355A Plug-In. Can that person contact me. I have a 5355A coming (hopefully a working one !!) and would like to try one or two. Tnx, Dick, W1KSZ ___ time-nuts mailing list --