[time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Hi All, Up until now we've been interfacing my Motorola M12+T's using the Oncore software. However, at this point we are trying to have it interfaced directly to a FPGA. To my mind this should be simple - the commands are discriminated (framed) by looking at the start and terminating bytes

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Looking at the user guide which is the extent of my experience. Would the position version of the M12+ be a better choice for your application ? That is trade NMEA-0183 for all the timing features ? Stanley Link to user guide :

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread David C. Partridge
Aren't potential terminating chars doubled up if in the datastream? Check the protocol specification very carefully. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan Sandenbergh Sent: 19 November 2008 14:30 To: Discussion of precise

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread David C. Partridge
I have just the beast for you - an HP 4951C with serial adapter!!! That well let you really see what's in the datastream. Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Stephan: Check the manual for stuffing, it's not a Thanksgiving term here but has to do with what happens when a byte in a binary data stream (the data in the Motorola protocol is all binary, not ASCII) is the same as the ASCII @ character. This means that the length of a packet is

[time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt temperature judgment call

2008-11-19 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
I love my new Trimble Thunderbolt. Thank you TAPR and Time-Nuts! I was thinking of putting insulation all around the Thunderbolt to thermally stabilize it. It's in my basement and the temperature there rarely gets above 18 C. That would also help with my dedicated power supply, as the 12

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt temperature judgment call

2008-11-19 Thread John Franke
The problem is knowing how much insulation. If you use too much insulation, the Thunderbolt will overheat. I would just block any direct drafts and let the unit do what it was designed to do. John WA4WDL - Original Message - From: Mike Naruta AA8K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
Stephan, Ah, it's not a stupid question -- I think all of us who have written code to interface with GPS receivers have had to deal with this. Some GPS protocols use escape characters, but the Oncore binary protocol doesn't. There are five clues to robustly parsing a complete message: 1) starts

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt temperature judgment call

2008-11-19 Thread Hal Murray
I was thinking of putting insulation all around the Thunderbolt to thermally stabilize it. It's in my basement and the temperature there rarely gets above 18 C. That would also help with my dedicated power supply, as the 12 volt sags when the Thunderbolt is started. The power supply is

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt temperature judgment call

2008-11-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
I think isolation may work better than insulation. The latter attenuates external temperature variations from getting in but at the same time also necessarily restricts heat flow going out. The result is gradual overheating. You might first want to determine just how temperature sensitive your

[time-nuts] Coddling your TBOLT

2008-11-19 Thread Murray Greenman
Personally, I'd just leave the TBOLT to get on with the job. It's probably a good idea to exclude draughts, but adding further insulation will probably not help matters and may hinder them. I'm thinking specifically of what happens to the ambient compensation of OCXOs when the insulation thermal

[time-nuts] CHU: do not stay tuned...

2008-11-19 Thread David McGaw
It appears that CHU on 7.335MHz will soon be moved. While CNRC can keep transmitting on the frequency, so can broadcasters in other countries now use it. I have been hearing World Harvest Radio WHRI in the United States broadcasting on top of it at times. The word I got from NRC-INMS is that

Re: [time-nuts] CHU: do not stay tuned...

2008-11-19 Thread John Franke
Thanks for the heads up! John WA4WDL - Original Message - From: David McGaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: [time-nuts] CHU: do not stay tuned... It appears that CHU on

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Tom Van Baak wrote: Stephan, Ah, it's not a stupid question -- I think all of us who have written code to interface with GPS receivers have had to deal with this. Some GPS protocols use escape characters, but the Oncore binary protocol doesn't. There are five clues to robustly parsing a

Re: [time-nuts] What's all this about violins in the streets?

2008-11-19 Thread Neon John
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:27:10 -0600, Bill Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My apologies, but I didn't think you'd want to hear about jumps. My good friend, and software genius, was late for a lunch appointment today. The atomic alarm clock that he has used for years was 3.3 hours behind this

Re: [time-nuts] Oh the horror

2008-11-19 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:03:15 +0100, Björn Gabrielsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a much smaller scale... but the incident shown in the attached picture was no fun either... two old BVAs came the standard (brutal) post service packed like in the picture. Do y'all have UPS down there? That

Re: [time-nuts] Oh the horror

2008-11-19 Thread Neon John
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:01:23 -0800, Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It looks like the entire shipping case has been dropped or turned over from a reasonable height. The 7mm thick internal glass cylinder has been shattered and inside that the glass bulb has been

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Stephan, can you give us a clue what it is all about? What happens with the data after being decoded by the FPGA? Best regards Ulrich Bangert -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Stephan Sandenbergh Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19.