Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
Rich and Marcia Putz skrev: Hi all; Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses! Also, would anyone like to speculate when France finally accepted UTC? Uhm? I thought France was UTC country... Anyone got a comprehensive list of what time scale is legally accepted in various

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Steve Rooke
Hi Magnus, Try this site out for size: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/info/timezone.htm 73, Steve 2009/3/17 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org: Rich and Marcia Putz skrev: Hi all; Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses! Also, would anyone like to speculate when

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Steve Rooke
And they are on CET = GMT+1 2009/3/17 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org: Rich and Marcia Putz skrev: Hi all; Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses! Also, would anyone like to speculate when France finally accepted UTC? Uhm? I thought France was UTC country...

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Didier
Not sure where that comment (and the question) comes from, since France is one of the originator of the standard... As far back as I can recall (admittedly maybe not THAT far, and the older I get, the less far that is...), UTC has been the time standard in France. Didier KO4BB

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Arnold Tibus
UTC? France? Of course they do accept it! see : Université de Technologie de Compiègne (UTC) (www.utc.fr/) [ ;-) ] More seriously: We do use in Europe, including France, CET ¡ Central European Time, Time zone offset: UTC + 1 hour. Interesting facts: The GPS navigation system has GPS Time

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Lux, James P
On 3/17/09 5:58 AM, Arnold Tibus arnold.ti...@gmx.de wrote: Interesting facts: The GPS navigation system has GPS Time as its basis. Galileo will have TAI as its basis. GLONASS has UTC as its basis, Air traffic controllers are using UTC. The latter is probably because air traffic control

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message c5e4ee4d.6481%james.p@jpl.nasa.gov, Lux, James P writes: On 3/17/09 5:58 AM, Arnold Tibus arnold.ti...@gmx.de wrote: Interesting facts: The GPS navigation system has GPS Time as its basis. Galileo will have TAI as its basis. GLONASS has UTC as its basis, Air traffic

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Poul: I've more than once misread a clock display of the type 12:34:05. I've noticed that military clocks show 1234:05 and there's no mistaking the time. Seems like a more foolproof display format. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
Arnold, I therefore cannot see any problem is with France, but we have the need to define more precise and stable reference time from where we can then measure and add the Earth and Solar instabilities for our daily used standard watches, in order to be enabled still to continue living

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
Steve Rooke skrev: Hi Magnus, Try this site out for size: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/info/timezone.htm No. It just fails to make the distinction that I am asking for... Stockholm, Sweden is UTC+1h as normal time and UTC+2h as summer time, not GMT+1h and GMT+2h as indicated in the

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Rob Kimberley
UTC is the accepted international standard, but GMT appears to be steadfastly held onto by the UK (especially Government departments). I believe that GMT is actually by definition UTC_NPL, i.e. NPL contributes to UTC, but will have a small local offset as will all contributors. Feel free to

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Magnus, at least as of 2000, GMT was still the legal time in the UK, though it doesn't have a technically accurate definition any more. A bill in 1997 attempted to change UK time to UTC, but it died in Parliament. There's some discussion of this at pages 93-94 of a book that was recommended

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
Hello, The French Legal Time Reference is defined since a 1978 decree by the UTC(OP) realisation of UTC, as stated here: http://syrte.obspm.fr/index.php?prefix=tempslang=en Furthermore, the International Earth Rotation Service at Paris Observatory is responsible for the leapseconds insertion in

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Smith Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:05 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks Not exactly the case.

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Bill Hawkins
Looks like the original post in this thread was a troll, as in fishing for bites. Anybody know this guy? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: Rich and Marcia Putz Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:55 PM Hi all; Gov't got to save that money for executive bonuses! Also, would anyone

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Arnold Tibus
Magnus and all, interestlingly the discussion about GMT seem to be a never ending story, all over the world. As I know GMT was already renamed in the year 1925 ( or 1928 acc. other source ) to UT and universal time coordinated (U T C) (that) is standard since January 1, 1972. acc. About the

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I can vouch for Rich -- he's been on the list for a long time. John Bill Hawkins said the following on 03/17/2009 06:33 PM: Looks like the original post in this thread was a troll, as in fishing for bites. Anybody know this guy? Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Rob you might be able to get the official line from Peter Whibberly at Teddington. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Rob Kimberley r...@timing-consultants.com To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:58 PM

[time-nuts] Lady Heather display length limitation?

2009-03-17 Thread Freqtime
First of all, thanks to the developers of this great program. Second, is there a limit on the length of time that can be retained in memory for the displayed graph? I set the interval on 2 separate units to 1 second and ran them for a few days. Both computers only retained the latest day or so

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather display length limitation?

2009-03-17 Thread John Miles
The /q= command-line argument lets you expand the plot queue size. Looks like the default is 86400 entries for one day's worth of data taken at one-second intervals. Mark -- at one time it apparently was set to 3 days in the Windows version, but not now? Do you remember why it was backed down

[time-nuts] Lady Heather display length limitation?

2009-03-17 Thread Mark Sims
The default is one day of data. The /Q command with no parameters gives 3 days. Otherwise you can use /Q=#seconds (up to one year). The /Q command assumes a one second plot interval. Using the /I command to increase the plot interval would increase the time accordingly.

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Basics of voltage calibration?

2009-03-17 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
I suppose it was to to keep the electrolyt to slam around ;-} ??? Jean-Louis Oneto - Original Message - From: Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: Basics

[time-nuts] French Time offset

2009-03-17 Thread Rich and Marcia Putz
Thanks John, yes I'm real. The 1978 date is correct, I'm looking for the article to quote. Prior to the decree, France maintained a roughly twelve and a half minute offset. I always was struck by this as the BIPM is located in France, and has been for many years. Disagreement on the location