Re: [time-nuts] Spring cleaning and antenna placement

2009-04-14 Thread Chris Cheney
I had a look at it again... and I'd say it is more like 3 meters up from the chimney, but it is still 4 m up from the roof at the chimney so it is a bit hard to get to. If you are in Scandinavia, the GPS birds will not spend much time (if any?) to the north of you. Slide 12 of

[time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread John Miles
... for those who would like to participate in HDL discussions that aren't on-topic for existing lists: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HDLTalk Any VHDL or Verilog HDL-related topics are welcome. To keep spammers away, new member signups require moderator approval. For this reason, please

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Scott Newell
At 12:29 PM 4/14/2009 , John Miles wrote: ... for those who would like to participate in HDL discussions that aren't on-topic for existing lists: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HDLTalk Any VHDL or Verilog HDL-related topics are welcome. How will this compare to comp.lang.verilog, comp.lang.vhdl,

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Luis Cupido
I believe it is to be ham or hobby oriented Am I right ? (If so some rewording of the list purpose might be adequate... thinking out loud...) Luis Cupido ct1dmk. Scott Newell wrote: At 12:29 PM 4/14/2009 , John Miles wrote: ... for those who would like to participate in HDL discussions that

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread John Miles
At 12:29 PM 4/14/2009 , John Miles wrote: ... for those who would like to participate in HDL discussions that aren't on-topic for existing lists: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HDLTalk Any VHDL or Verilog HDL-related topics are welcome. How will this compare to comp.lang.verilog,

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sokolov
John Miles jmi...@pop.net wrote: Not everybody can stomach Google's perversion of Usenet (which admittedly was no small engineering feat in itself). Aren't there still non-Google ways of accessing Usenet? MS ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Michael Sokolov skrev: John Miles jmi...@pop.net wrote: Not everybody can stomach Google's perversion of Usenet (which admittedly was no small engineering feat in itself). Aren't there still non-Google ways of accessing Usenet? There is. Find the Wikipedia page for Usenet to find several

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Chuck Harris
John Miles wrote: At 12:29 PM 4/14/2009 , John Miles wrote: ... for those who would like to participate in HDL discussions that aren't on-topic for existing lists: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HDLTalk Any VHDL or Verilog HDL-related topics are welcome. How will this compare to

Re: [time-nuts] Spring cleaning and antenna placement

2009-04-14 Thread bg
If you are in Scandinavia, the GPS birds will not spend much time (if any?) to the north of you. Slide 12 of http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ecalais/teaching/geodesy/Satellite_orbits.pdf suggests that the most northerly orbital point is at the latitude of Denmark. With a decent antenna siting

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread John Miles
Michael Sokolov skrev: John Miles jmi...@pop.net wrote: Not everybody can stomach Google's perversion of Usenet (which admittedly was no small engineering feat in itself). Aren't there still non-Google ways of accessing Usenet? There is. Find the Wikipedia page for Usenet to find

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread John Miles
Google didn't do anything to usenet. They did provide a web based interface into usenet, and bought the dejanews archive of all non-binary groups. If you were a hardcore DejaNews user, as I was, you were probably not very happy with the way Google handled the archive and its user interface.

Re: [time-nuts] femtosecond jitter anyone?

2009-04-14 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Some ECL devices have jitter specs in the 100 to 200fsec range. see: http://www.onsemi.com This is misleading. While it is true that they have this low jitter at multi-Gb/s rates, the jitter is much greater than this at lower clock rates. At 10 MHz, ECL devices

Re: [time-nuts] femtosecond jitter anyone?

2009-04-14 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Rick The following NIST paper indicates that the conventional wisdom on ECL phase noise levels appear to be incorrect at least for some ECL divider configurations: http://www.am1.us/Papers/U11605%20Low%20Noise%20Synthesis-%20Walls.pdf Waveform symmetry and low power supply noise seem to be very

[time-nuts] OT: Manual for Julie Research Volt-A-Vider?

2009-04-14 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I just acquired a nice portable zener voltage reference with six-digit divider. It's a Julie Research Labs (JRL) Volt-A-Vider model GTX-355. There aren't many references to this device on the web, much less to its manual. Any chance someone here might have a manual, or a data sheet, or

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Manual for Julie Research Volt-A-Vider?

2009-04-14 Thread Ed Palmer
This doesn't include your model #, but it may be of some help. http://web.archive.org/web/20020903124352/http://www.procinst.com/voltavider.PDF Ed John Ackermann N8UR wrote: I just acquired a nice portable zener voltage reference with six-digit divider. It's a Julie Research Labs (JRL)

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Chuck Harris
I was a hardcore dajanews user. I guess that I even know it by that name would indicate that I was around back then. Google wrecked dejanews in the spirit of political correctness, the nanny state, and trying to pretend that usenet is just a part of google groups. Erasing all of the email

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Verilog/VHDL discussion list created...

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sokolov
Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Google wrecked dejanews in the spirit of political correctness, the nanny state, and trying to pretend that usenet is just a part of google groups. Erasing all of the email addresses, and other things. Does anyone know exactly where (building, city,

Re: [time-nuts] Spring cleaning and antenna placement

2009-04-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
b...@lysator.liu.se skrev: If you are in Scandinavia, the GPS birds will not spend much time (if any?) to the north of you. Slide 12 of http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ecalais/teaching/geodesy/Satellite_orbits.pdf suggests that the most northerly orbital point is at the latitude of Denmark.