[time-nuts] Don't let the magic hair out...

2009-05-24 Thread Burt I. Weiner
I first heard about the electrolytic problem after having lost my third computer video card in a little over a year. At first I though I might have a power supply problem that was blowing video cards, but that didn't make a lot of sense, it wasn't blowing other stuffs. Besides, the voltages

Re: [time-nuts] Don't let the magic hair out...

2009-05-24 Thread Bob Paddock
 I assume that in time better grade capacitors will work their way into the manufacturing world. Counterfeit electronic parts have become the newest business model in some circles. The problem is getting worse. -- http://www.wearablesmartsensors.com/ http://www.softwaresafety.net/

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-24 Thread Bob Paddock
A 33.31 format would buy us a century, still allow us to get nanoseconds right, but it be computationally inconvenient and looks messy, so people balk at it. Anything wrong with TAI64NA? http://cr.yp.to/libtai.html libtai is a library for storing and manipulating dates and times. libtai

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-24 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/24/09 8:32 AM, Bob Paddock bob.padd...@gmail.com wrote: A 33.31 format would buy us a century, still allow us to get nanoseconds right, but it be computationally inconvenient and looks messy, so people balk at it. Anything wrong with TAI64NA? http://cr.yp.to/libtai.html libtai

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message c63ec123.7f8b%james.p@jpl.nasa.gov, Lux, James P writes: Anything wrong with TAI64NA? http://cr.yp.to/libtai.html It also breaks the time up into seconds, nanoseconds, and attoseconds, as separate chunks, so math isn't trivial I don't think this library buys you a whole lot

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-24 Thread Hal Murray
Also, someone I was discussing this with at work reminded me of a common problem. We often run tests in a testbed where we need to have the entire testbed running at some time *not the actual time*.. E.g. If you're simulating a Mars entry,descent,landing scenario, you want the spacecraft

[time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-05-24 Thread J. L. Trantham
I have an Ovenaire OSC 85-50 10 MHz OCXO that is a frequency reference for a HP 5316B frequency counter. It oscillates but the output amplitude is about 20 mV. I would like to try to repair it. It looks like it is sealed with epoxy. Any suggestions on how to open it other than scraping the

[time-nuts] Cathodeon TCXOs??

2009-05-24 Thread Alan Melia
Hi I wonder if anyone still has a datasheet/catalogue of Cathodeon products. This firm made crystals and oscillators and filters in the 1980 and 90s in Cambridge, England. (It is only 50 miles up the raod but I have not been able to find anyone who still has any knowledge of the products.) The

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-05-24 Thread Stan W1LE
Hello Joe, At one time I used methylene chloride, a clear liquid, to dissolve epoxy. Took awhile, but the epoxy did soften up and I could easily chip it out. I soaked the item in a large covered pickle jar for a couple of days. The liquid and vapors of the solvent got to the epoxy nicely.

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: c63ec123.7f8b%james.p@jpl.nasa.gov Lux, James P james.p@jpl.nasa.gov writes: : : : : On 5/24/09 8:32 AM, Bob Paddock bob.padd...@gmail.com wrote: : : A 33.31 format would buy us a century, still allow us to get : nanoseconds right, but it be computationally

[time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-05-24 Thread Mark Sims
I would avoid the methylene chloride. It is very prone to capillary wicking/pumping and will definitely damage plastic cased components if gets to them. It has been used to de-pot semiconductors. It can pump a whole lot of itself through tiny cracks in a short period of time particularly

Re: [time-nuts] Cathodeon TCXOs??

2009-05-24 Thread Roy Phillips
Alan The Cathodeon Company was part of Pye of Cambridge, which in turn became part of Philips. I understand that nothing has survived of the old Pye Group, so it may be difficult to obtain any new data. Roy - Original Message - From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com To:

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50

2009-05-24 Thread Gordon Batey
I had an earlier model 20 mhx ovenaire osc that had very low output. I opened it up with a scalpel and found the TTL chip had failed and was only letting a small amount of the osc signal thru. I was able to use an external TTl (74LS20 I think) to restore it. As I recall I was unable to readily

Re: [time-nuts] Cathodeon TCXOs??

2009-05-24 Thread Alan Melia
Thanks Roy, yes I know several peple who worlled for Pye / Philips, and the firm I was involved in was a dealer for a while in the 80s. I have some data but not on those units. I cant remember when Philips bought them but it was a kiss of death ! Thanks and Best Wishes Alan G3NYK - Original

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-24 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/24/09 11:13 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: Also, someone I was discussing this with at work reminded me of a common problem. We often run tests in a testbed where we need to have the entire testbed running at some time *not the actual time*.. E.g. If you're

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more.... (actually 5370A fans)

2009-05-24 Thread christopher hoover
Magnus wrote: Having 1-10 kW per rack is not uncommon these days, so forced convection needs to be done That and more. A fully loaded 42U rack of HP C-class blades runs 8 kW idle and peaks at 24 kW. This can be air cooled (easily) in a properly designed and commissioned run-of-the-mill