Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 61, Issue 77

2009-08-20 Thread paul
Dave Ackrill wrote: Mark Sims wrote: the femtofortnight. uk.rec.sheds lives! For those that don't remember back to Usenet, this was in the days before forums, when every discussion group had to get approval before it was accepted on the system and uk.rec.sheds was a hip and happening

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Did the google thing. Got Royal Children's Hospital. Found nothing in the first two pages. Gave up. Emailed time-nuts. Of course it was on the third page. Never thought to type it into wikipedia... Thanks to all who have helped! Jim 2009/8/20 Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net: Can someone

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 61, Issue 77

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Martinson
Just Google RCH REM -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of Chuck Harris Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:03 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 61,

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Martinson
Strange, its the first item on my Google of rch note, no caps no quotes. REM -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of Jim Palfreyman Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:42 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Maybe google australia does it differently? 2009/8/20 Bob Martinson remartin...@rcn.com: Strange, its the first item on my Google of rch  note, no caps no quotes. REM -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of Jim

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Rex
Hal Murray wrote: Can someone please put me out of my misery and tell me what these stand for? You must not be very miserable. Google usually does a good job of answering that type of question. There are a couple of sites that collect acronyms and several sites that collect slang.

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for Datum (Symmetricom) 5045 Cesium information

2009-08-20 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 20/08/2009 05:40:44 GMT Daylight Time, swith...@alum.mit.edu writes: Anyone know of any information on the 5045 Cesium module used in the Datum PRS-50 (User Manual, Service Manual, etc.)? I did a cursory check of the Symmetricom web site but didn't turn up anything.

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Christian Vogel
Hi Rex, Yep, as usual Google is fantastic for this task. Asking, 'RCH definition', I found out this: Royal Canadian Hussars ... try the urban dictionary, it's a very good reference for slang terms, not safe for work for some, though... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rph

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Neville Michie
One of the more interesting units used in the air conditioning industry in USA in the past was a measure of wall insulation which was tons per square foot per inch per degree Fahrenheit. That is the number of tons of ice per 24 hour period that must melt to sustain a temperature difference

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 61, Issue 77

2009-08-20 Thread Mike S
At 02:28 AM 8/20/2009, p...@greenrover.demon.co.uk wrote... Dave Ackrill wrote: See http://www.uk-rec-sheds.org.uk Where was born the international standard unit of time - the fortnight... Not everything can be attributed to the modern computer world. Indeed. According to the OED,

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Neville Michie wrote: One of the more interesting units used in the air conditioning industry in USA in the past was a measure of wall insulation which was tons per square foot per inch per degree Fahrenheit. That is the number of tons of ice per 24 hour period that must melt to sustain a

Re: [time-nuts] Mark Sims and gnat posteriors

2009-08-20 Thread Alberto di Bene
Dick Moore wrote: Mark -- my friend, mentor, and former employer, Paul Klipsch (sadly, now deceased) used to use the unit of furlongs per fortnight -- also ffn, 1 Furlong= 660 ft = 201.168 m 1 Fortnight = 14 days = 1,209,600 s One furlong per fortnight is very nearly 1

Re: [time-nuts] HP-IB to USB

2009-08-20 Thread Dave
I had the same issue with the softmark board about 18 months ago. They did respond to my enquiries and sent me another board which repeated the problem If the (more modern) equipment accepts requests like ?FREQ and sends the answer straight back it works fine. If the equipment requires lines to

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 61, Issue 77

2009-08-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
p...@greenrover.demon.co.uk wrote: Dave Ackrill wrote: Mark Sims wrote: the femtofortnight. uk.rec.sheds lives! For those that don't remember back to Usenet, this was in the days before forums, when every discussion group had to get approval before it was accepted on the system and

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 61, Issue 77

2009-08-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Mike S wrote: At 02:28 AM 8/20/2009, p...@greenrover.demon.co.uk wrote... Dave Ackrill wrote: See http://www.uk-rec-sheds.org.uk Where was born the international standard unit of time - the fortnight... Not everything can be attributed to the modern computer world. Indeed. According to

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
Or, what about boiler HP which has almost no relation to the HP used in connection with motors and engines. They still use that measure of insulation, slightly changed, as R value: BTU/hr = 1/R * delta T(deg F) * square feet Tons, as a unit of refrigerating capacity (12000 BTU/hr) is still

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread J. Forster
Civil engineers measure water reservoirs in Acre-Feet. -John === One of the more interesting units used in the air conditioning industry in USA in the past was a measure of wall insulation which was tons per square foot per inch per degree Fahrenheit. That is the number of tons

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread bg
I have seen a standard deviation expressed in foot-meter. -- Björn Civil engineers measure water reservoirs in Acre-Feet. -John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Hal Murray
Maybe google australia does it differently? Sure does. Thanks, I wouldn't have thought of that, at least not soon. Did the google thing. Got Royal Children's Hospital. Found nothing in the first two pages. Gave up. Emailed time-nuts. Of course it was on the third page. Royal Children's

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
J. Forster wrote: Civil engineers measure water reservoirs in Acre-Feet. A personal favorite of my own production is the volume cubicliter. :) A related measure is the squareliter... which is the area that a liter of milk spilled on a kitchen floor covers. Cheers, Magnus

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread J. Forster
Many of these wierd units make perfect sense to those working in that field every day. The acre-feet for example. It is only necessary to figure the area of a pond once and then a simple ruler will tell you how much water is in it and if you need to start rationing water use. -John

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 20/08/2009 17:51:32 GMT Daylight Time, j...@quik.com writes: Civil engineers measure water reservoirs in Acre-Feet. Runners use something very similar to measure marathons! ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread bg
sqrt([foot][m])... I have seen a standard deviation expressed in foot-meter. -- Björn Civil engineers measure water reservoirs in Acre-Feet. -John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: sqrt([foot][m])... And the point of that is? Cheers, Magnus - concluded that the fuse has blown... I have seen a standard deviation expressed in foot-meter. -- Björn Civil engineers measure water reservoirs in Acre-Feet. -John

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 1746.12.6.201.247.1250792817.squir...@popacctsnew.quik.com, J. Fo rster writes: The acre-feet for example. It is only necessary to figure the area of a pond once and then a simple ruler will tell you how much water is in it and if you need to start rationing water use. The most

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Morris Odell
There is a unit of force in the old fps system called the slug. Then you get derivations such as work units of slug feet or loadings of slugs per square foot etc. Morris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Morris Odell
Oh, and of course power in that system is slug-furlongs per fortnight. :-) As for RCH, I work there from time to time and often grin privately at the other meaning. Morris -Original Message- From: Morris Odell [mailto:vilgo...@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Friday, 21 August 2009 7:19 AM To:

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Had
Gawd, I actually remember the Slug. [] Had K7MLR At 02:18 PM 8/20/2009, you wrote: There is a unit of force in the old fps system called the slug. Then you get derivations such as work units of slug feet or loadings of slugs per square foot etc. Morris

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Hal Murray
The most amazing unit I have hit was the Sverdrup, used for measuring sea-currents. I belive it is km^3/s. Close. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdrup It is equivalent to 10^6 cubic meters per second (0.001 km³/s, or about 264 million U.S. gallons per second). The entire global input of

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Sheez - I'm so glad we have metric!! Can I ask you US dudes a question? Do you know, without looking it up, what an acre is? It's such a commonly used term for measuring large areas, but I bet most don't know what it actually is. I only know because of Pink Floyd. We use a hectare which is

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Ohh, and I almost forgot: US cooling engineers measuring energy in tons. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread David Forbes
Jim Palfreyman wrote: Sheez - I'm so glad we have metric!! Can I ask you US dudes a question? Do you know, without looking it up, what an acre is? It's such a commonly used term for measuring large areas, but I bet most don't know what it actually is. I only know because of Pink Floyd. We

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Robert Darlington
Yep, 43,560 square feet. I only know because I recently bought a 1 acre lot in Taos for building an observatory. -Bob On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com wrote: Sheez - I'm so glad we have metric!! Can I ask you US dudes a question? Do you know, without

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread David Forbes
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Ohh, and I almost forgot: US cooling engineers measuring energy in tons. As they also measure the load capacity of the truck that has to carry said air conditioning unit, not that those two types of tons have anything in common with the 2000 pound type of ton. (A

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Brent Gordon
The amount of land a man and a mule can plow in one day. 43560 square feet 640 Acres=1 square mile Jim Palfreyman wrote: Sheez - I'm so glad we have metric!! Can I ask you US dudes a question? Do you know, without looking it up, what an acre is? It's such a commonly used term for measuring

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread J. Forster
An acre is 43,560 Sq. Ft. It is evenly divisible by 9 to convert to sq. yards, and also in square rods, a surveyer's unit. Oh, BTW, a slug is a unit of Mass, not Force. It is the mass that, when subjected to a 1 lb. force will accelerate at 1 ft/sec/sec. -John = Sheez - I'm so

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Samuel D. [x86/CPC]
An off-topic from time to time is great, but a new email every minute unrelated with time-nuts is a bit too much, didn't you think ? Sorry, I don't want to be rude. -Message d'origine- De : time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] De la part de Brent Gordon Envoyé 

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread J. Forster
Same guys measure humidity in grains/lb. There are 7000 grains/lb, BTW. -John Ohh, and I almost forgot: US cooling engineers measuring energy in tons. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD

[time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Mark Sims
Speaking of slug-feet, I had a very direct experience with that little unit. It had been raining here and the door mat was soaked. I did not want to track water into the house, so I left my shoes on the back step. The next morning, I left the house early and stepped into my shoes...

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread WarrenS
Jim Silly question, You must not live in California. Of course it is 1/640 of a square mile or was it 1/460 of a square something else? In any case, everyone in California knows it is 1/50,000 of what an average wild fire burns. ws * - Original Message - From: Jim Palfreyman

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 20/08/2009 23:17:43 GMT Daylight Time, jim77...@gmail.com writes: Can I ask you US dudes a question? Do you know, without looking it up, what an acre is? --- It's usually the result of a dodgy rugby tackle!

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Hal Murray
Can I ask you US dudes a question? Do you know, without looking it up, what an acre is? I had to think a couple of seconds, but I came up with 640. A lot of the western US was surveyed so they would have something to put in deeds. A township is 6 by 6 miles divided up into 36 sections a

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
On 8/20/09 3:16 PM, Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com wrote: Sheez - I'm so glad we have metric!! Can I ask you US dudes a question? Do you know, without looking it up, what an acre is? Of course we do, it's 43,560 square feet, but that's not what's important. There are 640 acres in a

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Jim Palfreyman
I don't know how you guys put up with such a complicated system. Especially when Jefferson, Washington and Franklin played such a big part in the invention of the metric system. Jim Palfreyman ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
Metric time Yes! Bring on the deciday instead of the hour; the centiday instead of the minute. Get rid of this 3600 stuff? H. Maybe it should be the microyear instead. If only we had eight fingers instead of ten, we would have saved so much effort developing computers. Mike - AA8K

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 21/08/2009 00:18:40 GMT Daylight Time, james.p@jpl.nasa.gov writes: - DON'T YOU JUST WISH SOMETIMES THAT YOU NEVER ASKED??? Do you know, without looking it up, what an acre is? Of

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
On 8/20/09 4:13 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: Can I ask you US dudes a question? Do you know, without looking it up, what an acre is? I had to think a couple of seconds, but I came up with 640. A lot of the western US was surveyed so they would have something to put

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
On 8/20/09 4:40 PM, gandal...@aol.com gandal...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 21/08/2009 00:18:40 GMT Daylight Time, james.p@jpl.nasa.gov writes: - DON'T YOU JUST WISH SOMETIMES THAT YOU NEVER ASKED??? Never... Carpe Scientia (hoping

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 21/08/2009 01:12:45 GMT Daylight Time, james.p@jpl.nasa.gov writes: DON'T YOU JUST WISH SOMETIMES THAT YOU NEVER ASKED??? Never... Carpe Scientia (hoping my grammar is correct.. How many Romans? But this is motion towards... Etc.) Hey, if it weren't for this

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread Said Jackson
Well said!! The noise floor is way too high today. From iPhone On Aug 20, 2009, at 15:34, Samuel D. [x86/CPC] s...@canardpc.com wrote: An off-topic from time to time is great, but a new email every minute unrelated with time-nuts is a bit too much, didn't you think ? Sorry, I don't want

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread brice
Last night I was looking at weather stations along the Columbia River near Boneville Dam and I came up with this. Been pretty hot up there again. A Langley a CGS unit of heat transmission equal to one thermochemical calorie per square centimeter, or exactly 41.84 kilojoules per square meter

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure terms

2009-08-20 Thread J. Forster
Having one's name attached to a unit is just about the ultimate tribute in science. IMO, a bigger honor than the Nobel Prize. W/out these people, we'd be living in the Middle Ages. FWIW, -John == Last night I was looking at weather stations along the Columbia River near