[time-nuts] Didier Juges

2009-11-13 Thread Joseph Gray
I just wanted to publically say thanks to Didier for hosting all of those manuals. I just found yet another manual that I needed. Joe Gray KA5ZEC ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] 10 MHz Distribution Amplifier

2009-11-13 Thread Chuck Smallhouse
Down East Microwave Inc now has a four channel 10 MHz distribution amplifier with some gain and LP filters on each output. Their price with the PC board and all components, but without connectors and enclosure is about $25 Chuck, W7CS ___

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz Distribution Amplifier

2009-11-13 Thread David Smith
Hi Chuck, Great to see you here. I just joined this GREAT group a few days ago, You may not remember me. I'm Dave W6TE ex WA6YDI. You were one of my first contacts on 2M EME back in the early 80's. You were up in the Bay area and I was in Fresno. I'll never forget the contact because (you were

Re: [time-nuts] Didier Juges

2009-11-13 Thread J. L. Trantham
An amazing resource Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Gray Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:01 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Didier Juges I just

Re: [time-nuts] Didier Juges

2009-11-13 Thread Didier Juges
Thanks to everybody's help, it just keeps growing and growing :) 18,903 files as of today. Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. L. Trantham Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:30 AM To: 'Discussion of

Re: [time-nuts] Didier Juges

2009-11-13 Thread J. L. Trantham
The website is an amazing resource, too! ;) Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Didier Juges Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:09 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread Brian Kirby
You will need a receiver to compare your references to. It appears that LORAN will be shut off, so that leaves two services available, either WWV 60 Khz or GPS. I do not use WWV any more, I can tell you about GPS. To compare against GPS you will need a timing receiver, there are several

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread J. Forster
WWVB not WWV. IMO, WWVB is MUCH fussier than LORAN. It's just utter stupidity that LORAN is being shut down. -John You will need a receiver to compare your references to. It appears that LORAN will be shut off, so that leaves two services available, either WWV 60 Khz or GPS.

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread paul swed
I use GPS and LORAN. Always nice to have a backup With LORAN being shut down, have resurrected the ole wwvb rcvr and built an amplified loop ant. Can work but it takes about 3-5 hours to get to 1X10^11 accuracy. Still observing various strange ness shuch as diurnal shift ... Odd wwvb works at

Re: [time-nuts] Didier Juges

2009-11-13 Thread paul swed
Joe boy do I agree with your comments on Didiers site. Been very very helpful. Thank you Didier and everyone who has contributed. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote: I just wanted to publically say thanks to Didier for hosting all of those manuals. I just found

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread Don Latham
The ground wave path of WWVB varies due to a very small changes in the index of refraction (temperature and absolute humidity) over the path. It is not much, but is measurable. Don paul swed I use GPS and LORAN. Always nice to have a backup With LORAN being shut down, have resurrected the ole

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread Hal Murray
The ground wave path of WWVB varies due to a very small changes in the index of refraction (temperature and absolute humidity) over the path. It is not much, but is measurable. How much is not much? Say over a 1000 km path. Are we talking microseconds or picoseconds? -- These are my

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread Kasper Pedersen
On 11/13/2009 07:15 PM, Don Latham wrote: The ground wave path of WWVB varies due to a very small changes in the index of refraction (temperature and absolute humidity) over the path. It is not much, but is measurable. Don My own nuttiness started with that, and the innocent question How

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread J. Forster
It's been a while since I was using an HP 117A, but from memory the diurnal shift in Boston was a good part of a 1 cycle of 60 KHz or roughly 16 uS. To get good data, I'd have to run the stripchart for 24 hours (to make sure track was not lost) and compsare readings at the same time each day.

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread Don Latham
Hi All: I've copied my paper Diurnal frequency variation and refractive index from Nature Physical Sciences, Vol. 234, 51, pp. 157-158, Dec. 20, 1971. There are two TIFF files (I tried like heck to get them in one file, and failed miserably, cannot understand my image software worth a #$%^.

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread Didier Juges
Don, you are welcome to upload your pictures (and paper) to my web site, where people normally upload manuals. Didier KO4BB http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread David I. Emery
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 09:51:11AM -0800, J. Forster wrote: WWVB not WWV. IMO, WWVB is MUCH fussier than LORAN. It's just utter stupidity that LORAN is being shut down. I have emailed my brother in law who is a rear admiral (I think now called a vice admiral) and currently CFO of the

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C shutdown

2009-11-13 Thread Joe Geller
The Coast Guard has always been stretched very thin with limited resources for many missions. The saying was, every year we do more and more with less and less. I served in the late 70s as an electronics technician, EE, and later after Navy flight school, flying air rescue into the 80s. I

Re: [time-nuts] Reference oscillator accuracy

2009-11-13 Thread J. Forster
I asked a close friend and fellow engineering alum who was deeply involved in GPS and he thinks closing down LORAN is utterly idiotic. IMO, there is something purely political, rather than technical, about this decision. Perhaps the GPS stakeholders don't want to admit just how vulnerable GPS is

[time-nuts] FS: HP 5315A

2009-11-13 Thread Joseph Gray
I recently acquired an HP 5315A Universal Counter and no longer have a need for it. As best as I can tell, it works fine. It has a calibration sticker on it dated Feb 2008. I haven't opened it or messed with it at all. Make me an offer off-list, via email. I'll let it go cheap. Joe Gray KA5ZEC