[time-nuts] Time illiterate query about feasibility of determining source clock quality based on NTP jitter/disp and offset

2009-11-28 Thread Saku Ytti
cisco#show ntp associations address ref clock st when poll reach delay offsetdisp *~meinberg-dhq.PPS. 113256 377 2.6 1.53 3.7 +~meinberg-lq .PPS. 1 131 256 377 2.1 1.83 1.4 +~randomPC1

[time-nuts] Santa's Visit #1

2009-11-28 Thread Stan, W1LE
Hello The Net: Execess to my needs is a older National Instruments GPIB adapter card with what looks to be a 8 bit ISA interface to your PC. On the PCB is assy180340-01 rev a, not obvious to me what the NI model number is. I suspect drivers are still available from NI. First response

Re: [time-nuts] Double oven ocxo's was Tbolt reception problems

2009-11-28 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi guys, it turns out I achieve the best results with an E1938A driven by a Fury board, compared to my PRS-10 Rb. I have not tried a Fury GPSDO with a standard DOCXO yet, but suspect similar results - that test to follow next week. The standard deviation over 15 hours is about 2.3ns, the

[time-nuts] Santa's Visit #1 is Completed, Thanks

2009-11-28 Thread Stan, W1LE
Found it a home, Thanks Santa ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

[time-nuts] Solatrtron 7151 DMM

2009-11-28 Thread Jan Fredriksson
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Re: [time-nuts] Solatrtron 7151 DMM

2009-11-28 Thread David C. Partridge
The smell does depart over time - you should have use more isopropyl alcohol and been more patient :-) A pity to loose one of those they are pretty rare. Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] LORAN-C demise

2009-11-28 Thread ken hartman
Given the confusing and seemingly ambiguous infomation on the .gov site, a clearer picture is given by this announcement: http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/news/coast-guard-jettisons-loran-9178 excerpted below: Coast Guard Jettisons Loran November 25, 2009 -- The

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C demise

2009-11-28 Thread J. Forster
There are on-line petition sites where people can sign on to support a particular cause. Has anyone started such a petition to save LORAN? I've not seen one. Best, -John == Given the confusing and seemingly ambiguous infomation on the .gov site, a clearer picture is given by

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C demise

2009-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
Time and frequency measurement people were specifically exclude from the polls I have seen to determine whether or not Loran should continue. They only wanted navigation users input... and I guess there weren't any. -Chuck J. Forster wrote: There are on-line petition sites where people can

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C demise

2009-11-28 Thread ken hartman
My impression is that significant stake-holders (e.g. Telecom service providers, ILECs, AOPA, National Laboratories, FAA, NIST, DHS, CG, and others) were unwilling - at an institutional level - to embrace or own any aspect of LORAN preservation and unable - at an individual level - to influence

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 64, Issue 96

2009-11-28 Thread Jan Fredriksson
The smell does depart over time - you should have use more isopropyl alcohol and been more patient :-) A pity to loose one of those they are pretty rare. I actually gave it to a friend who's nose is less touchy. So it's in good use. And I have limited space and too much stuff. You can often

Re: [time-nuts] Solartron

2009-11-28 Thread Jan Fredriksson
A pity to loose one of those they are pretty rare. I actually gave it to a friend who's nose is less touchy. So it's in good use. And I have limited space and too much stuff. You can often find these at Ebay UK for around $20-30 The Solartron equipment I had has been very stable. I had a

[time-nuts] Trimble GPS RX info needed

2009-11-28 Thread Tom Holmes, N8ZM
Have obtained a Trimble P/N 23632-20 device which appears to be a GPS of the type often seen mounted on a pole at a cell site. A search of the web has not been successful in providing the connections or other info. The connector is a small 12 pin type, possibly an ITT/Cannon. The unit is housed

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS RX info needed

2009-11-28 Thread bg
Hi Tom, Check this archive message for some clues http://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2006-May/020755.html The connector PN is in the acutime-manuals. I have not opened any of my palisade/acutime-antennas. If you find a good method please share it. -- Björn Have obtained a

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS RX info needed

2009-11-28 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Table 4-2 Acutime 2000 RS-422 Cable Pin-OutSignal Description Wire Color Protocol Acutime 2000 ConnectorDC Power(+8 to +36 Volts DC)Red +8 to 36 V Pin 1 Port B: RS-422 / Receive Violet TSIP RS422 Pin 2 Port B: RS-422 / Receive + Orange TSIP RS422 Pin 3 Port B: RS-422 / Transmit - Brown TSIP RS422

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS RX info needed

2009-11-28 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Look for a part number like 39091-00 , your part number maybe for the mount.   All the ones I have are glued and don't unsnap.   Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C demise

2009-11-28 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Some of us have been trying to get the telcom OEM's to embrace a backup for GPS. There are a number of possible things they could do at various points in their networks. Different companies have pushed different approaches for many years. In all cases the response has been the carriers

[time-nuts] Trimble info needed...

2009-11-28 Thread Tom Holmes, N8ZM
Thanks guys! That was very useful! Regards, Tom Holmes, N8ZM Tipp City, OH EM79xx ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C demise

2009-11-28 Thread paul swed
Well that surely is pretty clear. Now will DHS sign off I suspect yes On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM, ken hartman kdhart...@gmail.com wrote: Given the confusing and seemingly ambiguous infomation on the .gov site, a clearer picture is given by this announcement:

[time-nuts] LORAN-C demise

2009-11-28 Thread Joe Geller
Here is the ALCOAST COMMANDANT NOTE: 675/09 LONG RANGE NAVIGATION (LORAN-C) TERMINATION 11/25/2009 http://www.uscg.mil/ANNOUNCEMENTS/ (apology in advance, if this was already posted.) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] Alternate frequency sources - second opinions

2009-11-28 Thread Hal Murray
[From a few days ago.] b...@iaxs.net said: IIRC, NTP turns a computer clock into a DO with millisecond accuracy. Like any DO, the long term accuracy tracks the clock you are locking to. Short term accuracy depends on the quality of the signal you are tracking and your OS. NTP gets it's time