Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The only other wrinkle worth noting is that you may have to delay the carries out of the count blocks. All of the same stuff still applies, you just wind up with two delays where you thought you would only need one. Bob On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > jimlux wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Group Buy, part 3 - Thunderbolt quits

2010-04-14 Thread Tom Van Baak
I've been having a chronic problem with one of the TAPR Thunderbolts that I bought; it just stops communicating. I have to power it down and back on to talk to it. I've not heard of this before. Sounds interesting. Perhaps someone will have a suggestion. But otherwise, I'll will be happy to take

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
jimlux wrote: Eugen Leitl wrote: Hi -- a couple somewhat lunatic questions. Figured this would be the best place to ask. Anyone aware of a time standard which compensates in regards to an ideal flat-spacetime-at-rest-relatively-to-cosmic-background reference clock? I realize this is not relevan

Re: [time-nuts] RAIM Error

2010-04-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm getting an error message on my Polaris Guide (DAGR) GPS receiver indicating that there's a problem with one of the SVs. http://www.prc68.com/I/DAGR.shtml Is it my receiver or is there something wrong with one of the sats? You should not see SVN49 even if it's PRN

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Group Buy, part 3 - Thunderbolt quits

2010-04-14 Thread Hal Murray
> Application Fatal Exception: > FATAL EXCPT ID=0x; CODE=0xE008 > VO=0x0060; SR=0x0008; PC=0x00401E04; PC2=0x That looks like a problem inside the TBolt. I'd guess that the CPU or RAM or ROM is flakey. I'd put a meter and scope on the power supplies to double check. If that's OK,

[time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread Arthur Dent
Bob Camp: "There are a couple of European sources that pop up from time to time selling Thunderbolts. It appears that 99% of the supply comes from China. At least here in the US, it's significantly cheaper to ship them in from China than to buy from a "local" source." __

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread jimlux
Eugen Leitl wrote: Hi -- a couple somewhat lunatic questions. Figured this would be the best place to ask. Anyone aware of a time standard which compensates in regards to an ideal flat-spacetime-at-rest-relatively-to-cosmic-background reference clock? I realize this is not relevant for any affor

[time-nuts] RAIM Error

2010-04-14 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: I'm getting an error message on my Polaris Guide (DAGR) GPS receiver indicating that there's a problem with one of the SVs. http://www.prc68.com/I/DAGR.shtml Is it my receiver or is there something wrong with one of the sats? -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31

2010-04-14 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Dave, et. al., thanks for all the tips everyone! I am going to try a couple of recommended approaches and parts. Will let you know on Monday how it works. bye, Said In a message dated 4/14/2010 01:01:41 Pacific Daylight Time, d...@uk-ar.co.uk writes: The "injection stick" is a go

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Group Buy, part 3 - Thunderbolt quits

2010-04-14 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Do anyone have a troubleshooting suggestion? Cold solder joint on RS232 connector. Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions ther

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 01:29:35PM -0500, Didier Juges wrote: > Eugen, > > My understanding is that in Germany, a suitable alternative to the Trimble > Thunderbolt is as follows: > > http://www.ko4bb.com/Trimble_Thundebolt.png Jaja, zee Germans. Even vants their klock disciplined... -- Eug

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Group Buy, part 3 - Thunderbolt quits

2010-04-14 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
Do anyone have a troubleshooting suggestion? I've been having a chronic problem with one of the TAPR Thunderbolts that I bought; it just stops communicating. I have to power it down and back on to talk to it. I originally attributed it to my PC's RS-232 interface, but since I have gotten the f

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread Didier Juges
Eugen, My understanding is that in Germany, a suitable alternative to the Trimble Thunderbolt is as follows: http://www.ko4bb.com/Trimble_Thundebolt.png :) Didier KO4BB (sorry, I could not resist...) Eugen Leitl wrote: > > Hi -- a couple somewhat lunatic questions. Figured this

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31

2010-04-14 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi John, It is always possible. They were cheap monitors, so the obvious solution was to trash them, and avoid putting monitors anywhere near the shaker unit. I do recall that the shaker made monitors swim from many many yards away. Some better shielding would have been nice. -Chuck Harris J

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I *think* you are asking if there's a clock that automatically corrects for relativity. Simple answer is no. You certainly could do the math in a PC and then drive a suitable clock with the required offset data based on a known location for the clock. Gray code is one of those th

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Eugen,One leading German Time and Frequency manufactures is Meinburg. http://www.meinberg.de/No cheap surplus though ;-)  Plenty of Thunderbolts in China on ebay. Robert G8RPI.  --- On Wed, 14/4/10, Eugen Leitl wrote: From: Eugen Leitl Subject: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards To:

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31

2010-04-14 Thread J. Forster
Some color CRTs have "purity" magnets. Is it possible those shifted in the H field? -John > Bob Camp wrote: >> Hi >> >> I've found that in some cases you need to run multiple passes over >> multiple >> days to degauss a badly mag'd monitor. I'm sure that at some point they >> d

[time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-14 Thread Eugen Leitl
Hi -- a couple somewhat lunatic questions. Figured this would be the best place to ask. Anyone aware of a time standard which compensates in regards to an ideal flat-spacetime-at-rest-relatively-to-cosmic-background reference clock? I realize this is not relevant for any affordable clocks. Unrel

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31

2010-04-14 Thread Chuck Harris
Bob Camp wrote: Hi I've found that in some cases you need to run multiple passes over multiple days to degauss a badly mag'd monitor. I'm sure that at some point they do indeed become "irreversible". So far I haven't found one that a hula hoop sized coil won't eventually fix. Bob Sadly, I ha

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31

2010-04-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I've found that in some cases you need to run multiple passes over multiple days to degauss a badly mag'd monitor. I'm sure that at some point they do indeed become "irreversible". So far I haven't found one that a hula hoop sized coil won't eventually fix. Bob -Original Message- Fro

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31

2010-04-14 Thread J. Forster
I assumed you deGaussed the monitors? -John == > Dave Baxter wrote: > >> I think you'll find that any stray fields from industrial shaker >> systems, are often from the connecting leads, especialy if not correctly >> positioned and layed out. The internal static and dynamic mag

Re: [time-nuts] repairing Maser threads

2010-04-14 Thread Steve Rooke
I've had some luck in the past by cutting short lengths of braiding from cable, inserting it into the hole, opening it out and running the screw down that. Sort of works a bit like a rawlplug, the fibre or plastic plug that you push into holes drilled in masonry walls and then driver a screw into t

Re: [time-nuts] repairing Maser threads

2010-04-14 Thread J. L. Trantham
Another thought. Can you put a little solder on the threads of your bolts? Probably good for one installation then have to do it all over again if you have to remove it. What does it have to be torqued to? Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun.

Re: [time-nuts] repairing Maser threads

2010-04-14 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Ernie, You can get M5.5 screws fairly easily (in the UK at least) It's actually a "cheat" size, almost identical to the old 2BA screw. 2BA was used in electrical fittings and there were so many in use that a replacement was required that fitted older fixed installations like junction boxes ce

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31

2010-04-14 Thread Chuck Harris
Dave Baxter wrote: I think you'll find that any stray fields from industrial shaker systems, are often from the connecting leads, especialy if not correctly positioned and layed out. The internal static and dynamic magnetic fields are "Very" well contained. Not necessarily. I did some shaker

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 69, Issue 31

2010-04-14 Thread Dave Baxter
> Message: 4 > From: saidj...@aol.com > > That is a big concern of ours of course! > > It's a massive voice coil in the shaker.. > > bye, > Said > > > In a message dated 4/13/2010 11:20:16 Pacific Daylight Time, > n...@gruending.net writes: > > True enough, but don't forget that a shake

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 69, Issue 30

2010-04-14 Thread Dave Baxter
> I will try Joe's idea of using a doorbell buzzer to introduce > vibration. > It's not easy to generate 1KHz vibration without professional > (and heavy) equipment :) Use a small loudspeaker (of the type found in small portable radios, or old PC monitors) with as large a metal nut as practi