Re: [time-nuts] [OT] degausing

2010-04-15 Thread jimlux
Chuck Harris wrote: David Martindale wrote: However, I don't see how the earth's tilted field prevents a CRT from being used in both hemispheres. I can see how it might need to be realigned, since it uses permanent magnets on the yoke and their field will be influenced by the earth's local f

Re: [time-nuts] [OT] degausing

2010-04-15 Thread jimlux
wa1...@att.net wrote: FWIW.A good high quality compass needs to be designed based on what region of the earth you plan to use it in. The Suunto ones I have are marked with a US region code. That's because they need to compensate for the "dip" in the magnetic field. The south end of th

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread jimlux
Bob Camp wrote: Hi The only real limit on a Johnson counter is how clever you get making sure that only one stage is a 1 and all the rest are zeros. There are *lots* of ways to take care of that, each with it's own set of trade offs. Bob Of course, if your goal is "minimizing gates" or "mi

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread jimlux
Bob Camp wrote: Hi The only real limit on a Johnson counter is how clever you get making sure that only one stage is a 1 and all the rest are zeros. There are *lots* of ways to take care of that, each with it's own set of trade offs. One problem with a Johnson counter is that it takes many m

Re: [time-nuts] - Thunderbolt quits

2010-04-15 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
Please excuse the individual message. Tom, I sent you a direct reply over 24 hours ago, and I suspect that e-mail from me to you is being filtered, as I also sent you a direct e-mail on 6/April about my Thunderbolt problem. I have been using your tvb leapsecond address. Yes, I'd appreciate

Re: [time-nuts] [OT] degausing

2010-04-15 Thread Chuck Harris
David Martindale wrote: However, I don't see how the earth's tilted field prevents a CRT from being used in both hemispheres. I can see how it might need to be realigned, since it uses permanent magnets on the yoke and their field will be influenced by the earth's local field. But a different

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver stuck at South Pole :)

2010-04-15 Thread Bob Paddock
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > I've got a Garmin GPS 18 USB.  (18, not 18x)  It's inside.  I'm not surprised > when it fades out. > > At first, I thought it was just giving a garbage location while trying to > find some satellites, but now that I've plotted it... > > It too

Re: [time-nuts] [OT] degausing

2010-04-15 Thread David Martindale
In the case of compasses, a balanced needle tends to tilt to align with the vertical as well as horizontal component of the earth's magnetic field - so it's level at the equator, north end low in the northern hemisphere, and south end low in the southern hemisphere. But you want the needle level s

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver stuck at South Pole :)

2010-04-15 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
Congratulations ;-} Most of the time, it's rather difficult to get a GPS working at high latitudes... - Original Message - From: "Hal Murray" To: Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:08 AM Subject: [time-nuts] GPS receiver stuck at South Pole :) I've got a Garmin GPS 18 USB. (18, no

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver stuck at South Pole :)

2010-04-15 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Hal Murray wrote: I've got a Garmin GPS 18 USB. (18, not 18x) It's inside. I'm not surprised when it fades out. At first, I thought it was just giving a garbage location while trying to find some satellites, but now that I've plotted it... It took about 7 hours to fly from here to the sou

[time-nuts] GPS receiver stuck at South Pole :)

2010-04-15 Thread Hal Murray
I've got a Garmin GPS 18 USB. (18, not 18x) It's inside. I'm not surprised when it fades out. At first, I thought it was just giving a garbage location while trying to find some satellites, but now that I've plotted it... It took about 7 hours to fly from here to the south pole. The latitu

Re: [time-nuts] [OT] degausing

2010-04-15 Thread wa1...@att.net
FWIW.A good high quality compass needs to be designed based on what region of the earth you plan to use it in. The Suunto ones I have are marked with a US region code. -Brian, WA1ZMS On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Kit Scally wrote: Craig, If memory serves me correctly, Philips "better

[time-nuts] [OT] degausing

2010-04-15 Thread Kit Scally
Craig, If memory serves me correctly, Philips "better quality" PAL colour TV's in the late 70's to early 80's "inverted" the CRT for us in the Southern Hemisphere. The TV's were clearly marked as such on the packing box. For reasons unknown, Japanese-made colour TV's never seemed to have this

Re: [time-nuts] Just a heads up HP 5085A on the E

2010-04-15 Thread Pete Lancashire
Didnt read that far .. bet your right. > error in title > > 390183043415 > > I just don't have the room for it or a 5061A mate > > disclaimer: no assoc with seller other then as a customer > > -pete > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Just a heads up HP 5085A on the E

2010-04-15 Thread paul swed
Interesting writeup like its a variable power supply. Or it is and the pix is wrong On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > error in title > > 390183043415 > > I just don't have the room for it or a 5061A mate > > disclaimer: no assoc with seller other then as a customer > > -p

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread jmfranke
I believe RTL was 3.6V. But I could be wrong, it has happened. John WA4WDL -- From: "Mike Feher" Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:32 PM To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" Subject: Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time

[time-nuts] Just a heads up HP 5085A on the E

2010-04-15 Thread Pete Lancashire
error in title 390183043415 I just don't have the room for it or a 5061A mate disclaimer: no assoc with seller other then as a customer -pete ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Mike Feher
I also have a bunch of them. I made one of my first (the first actually used tubes and an RC network) electronic keyers using those Fairchild devices. To the best of my recollection they are standard 5 volt devices. Brings back a lot of memories well over 40 years ago. They were not around for that

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The only real limit on a Johnson counter is how clever you get making sure that only one stage is a 1 and all the rest are zeros. There are *lots* of ways to take care of that, each with it's own set of trade offs. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi John: Yes RTL and 3.3 V if I remember correctly. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com jmfranke wrote: Wasn't that a RTL 923 and 914? I still have a few from my learning days. John WA4WDL -- From: "Brooke Clarke" Sent: Thursday,

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread jmfranke
Wasn't that a RTL 923 and 914? I still have a few from my learning days. John WA4WDL -- From: "Brooke Clarke" Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:24 AM To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Subject: Re: [time-nuts] lunatic

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Didier: When working with high speed data, for example an IDE hard drive, where there are parallel data lines you get into the same problem as you have with a shaft encoder where there are parallel binary data lines. In the case of the shaft encoder mechanical misalignment can cause huge e

Re: [time-nuts] [OT] degausing

2010-04-15 Thread Craig S McCartney
A bit off topic, but likely interesting to time-nuts: In the early days of HDTV (late 80s - early 90s) we were at a European trade show and had to borrow, at the last minute, a large (~40") CRT-based HD monitor from a Dutch company that was also exhibiting there. We liked it so much that we purc

Re: [time-nuts] RAIM Error

2010-04-15 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Joe: Yesterday I deselected SV09 and this morning the RAIM error message was being displayed. I've just enabled SV09 and deselected SV14 and will see what happens when SV14 rises. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com J. L. Trantham wrote: Brooke, I tried to reply to your post

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Didier Juges
I believe Gray code was invented to support absolute mechanical position encoders, where the speed of the electronics is high compared to the speed of the hardware being monitored. It eliminates the potentially large error between two positions since only one bit changes at a time. This is done

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you have a THz clock rate, what ever you are using for logic will be running "at the limit". The counter you implement would need to be a fundamentally fast design. That limits your options. Things like Gray code counters are inherently slower than ripple counters or Johnson counters. Bob

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 07:30:27AM -0400, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > I'm not 100% sure I understand exactly what you are thinking about setting up. This is completely theoretical at this point. Just the required geometry size would be prohibitive. > My guess is that the counter needs to run at th

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I'm not 100% sure I understand exactly what you are thinking about setting up. My guess is that the counter needs to run at the same THz speed as the oscillator. That's pretty fast. I suspect that what ever you use, speed / propagation delay in the counter it's self will be an issue. That wi

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 02:48:58AM -0700, Hal Murray wrote: > I'm not aware of anything like I think you are describing. > > What problem are you trying to solve? > > The main reason that I think of using gray codes is for crossing clock > domains. > > But as Magnus pointed out, another possib

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Adrian
If you're not looking for DIY / surplus stuff, check Schomandl or Hopf in Lüdenscheid http://www.schomandl.de/en/ http://www.hopf.com/en/index.html Eugen Leitl schrieb: Hi -- a couple somewhat lunatic questions. Figured this would be the best place to ask. Anyone aware of a time standard which

Re: [time-nuts] lunatic fringe time standards

2010-04-15 Thread Hal Murray
> Unrelated, anyone aware of a hardware (IC) counter which counts in a > (local-bitflip) Gray code, so it can track a very fast (integrated?) > oscillator without dropping cycles? I'm not aware of anything like I think you are describing. What problem are you trying to solve? The main reason

[time-nuts] [OT] degausing

2010-04-15 Thread Dave Baxter
The shaker system I used to know of, was used to test early mobile phone network test systems (with CRT monitors in) that were intended for "mobile" use, and no magnetic field leaked out of that one. It was the size of a small refuse bin, stood about 2' high, (3' dia) verticaly on the floor, bolte