Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread clock trust
I have an 1999 version Best wishes Paul - Original Message - From: J. Forster j...@quik.com To: time-nuts@febo.com; eip_microw...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:36 AM Subject: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView Hi, Does anybody have an older version of NI

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread paul swed
I was able to pick up a year 2000 or so one from Bert. This worked for the things that I was trying to do and the types of gear I have. HP etc. May he have more. ve2...@yahoo.ca Missed you at the MIT Reagrds Paul On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:36 AM, J. Forster j...@quik.com wrote: Hi, Does

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread J. L. Trantham
I, too, would be interested in getting an older version of Labview. I have 1980's HP equipment that I would love to be able to communicate with efficiently using my NI GPIB cards. Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread Pete Rawson
Student versions of LabView are in bounds for personal use. Using the results for publication might get NI's attention, but otherwise they have no problem with individual use. I have registered my copy of LabView 8.5 Student Edition gotten direct technical help from them with very good results.

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread J. Forster
I recently bought a gen-u-ine NI PCMCIA GPIB card and cable (two separate lots) on eBay for about $120 and basically want to play some using an older ThinkPad as a platform. Nothing fancy. Really just a toy. Best, -John = I, too, would be interested in getting an older version of

[time-nuts] More Efratom Info

2010-08-17 Thread Had
Morning Nuts Thanks to Mark Gulbrandsen, the manuals for the Efratom MGPS and MSF-286 are now available under the Info for Time-Nuts tab at www.to-way.com Hadley K7MLR A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. Peter Cooper, of Fermi Lab, says, Every

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread J. Forster
Do the Student Versions allow full access and use of the NI Driver library? I want to control some definitely non-student hardware. Best, -John Student versions of LabView are in bounds for personal use. Using the results for publication might get NI's attention, but

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread Stanley Reynolds
Their forums are good source of info, I don't think the student version is limited but you can ask there : http://forums.ni.com/ In a past life I was a programmer but found the virtual instrument hard to understand, could be it's too easy. CTL T which brings up two windows was one key,

Re: [time-nuts] OT: leaching was, Alternative time interval interpolation te...

2010-08-17 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Bernd, That's good PN for 1KHz and above on the AXIS10LN. How about the 1Hz, 10Hz, and 100Hz noise? Can -95dBc/Hz. 128dBc/Hz, and 135dBc/Hz be achieved in a VCXO? How does the high power drive (which I assume is needed to achieve these PN numbers) affect long term (10+ Year) aging

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread Brent Gordon
Three copies of the Version 7.1 Student Edition are available here (found by a froogle search): http://www.textbooks.com/BooksDescription.php?CSID=DW2BW33KOOKBZKOMODUKCACQSBKN=715789#mplistings I was going to sell my copy until I saw the prices. As a long-time LabVIEW programmer, version

Re: [time-nuts] OT: leaching was, Alternative time interval interpolation technique

2010-08-17 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:00:21 +0200 Bernd Neubig bneu...@t-online.de wrote: Why an OXCO? AFAIK the temperature has only an effect on long term stability/drift, but doesn't affect short term effects (which cause the jitters). Or am i missing something? Temperature has an important impact

Re: [time-nuts] OT: leaching was, Alternative time interval interpolation technique

2010-08-17 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:02:58 -0400 Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Single cycle jitter is a bit confusing when you talk about bandwidths of 5Hz to 20 MHz off a carrier. Since phase noise at 5 Hz does contribute to jitter over that bandwidth, an OCXO (with good phase noise close in) would be

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread Pete Rawson
Yes, the student edition is fully functional. Printed results will include a Student Edition water mark to remind you it's not for publication. Pete Rawson On Aug 17, 2010, at 9:07 AM, J. Forster wrote: Do the Student Versions allow full access and use of the NI Driver library? I want to

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread paul swed
OK I see my typos. Should have used spell check On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:12 AM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net wrote: I, too, would be interested in getting an older version of Labview. I have 1980's HP equipment that I would love to be able to communicate with efficiently using my NI GPIB

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread paul swed
As a heads up. What I ran into is that different versions of NI may or may not support the various cards we find on epay or at hamfests. Thats why I picked up a circa 2000 vintage of NI. It supported the ethernet gpib adapters that I ran across and the ISA cards... After about 2002 these drivers

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread J. Forster
I guess you snooze, you loose. There was just one copy w/o CDs just now. Why don't you like about Rev 8, if I may ask? Thank you, -John == Three copies of the Version 7.1 Student Edition are available here (found by a froogle search):

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread J. Forster
It appears you have to have student status (an ID, course schedule, etc), and alum doesn't count. Best, -John === the LabView 2009 student edition seems to be either $79.95 as a dvd or $115 as a textbook bundle. http://www.ni.com/labviewse/select.htm looking at the FAQ:

Re: [time-nuts] WTB: Older Version of LabView

2010-08-17 Thread J. Forster
Sadly, it looks like you have to be a student though. Thanks, -John === Yes, the student edition is fully functional. Printed results will include a Student Edition water mark to remind you it's not for publication. Pete Rawson On Aug 17, 2010, at 9:07 AM, J. Forster wrote: Do