Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread gary
Hmmh, they have some good deals on Rolex watches there. ;-) http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14160480823 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Question

2012-02-26 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:03:45 -0800 Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: It's like asking why did they change the design so that 5V is required, saves the cost of a regulator chip and some caps. They seem to be concerned with saving even $2 on a $1K device. It's a common

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair

2012-02-26 Thread Bert, VE2ZAZ
Hi Neville, RoHS 5 likely means RoHS-5/6, which means that all RoHS-banned substances, except lead, are removed. This means that regular leaded solder is used.  RoHS-6/6 means that lead-free solder is used. Cheers, Bert, VE2ZAZ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:17:55 +1100 From:

Re: [time-nuts] Super cheap AVR USB boards

2012-02-26 Thread cfo
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:28:47 -0500, Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you are shipping to North America, there are cheaper options. Bob Well for once we EU'ians might have a good deal (incl VAT shipping) It is supposedly Teensy 1.0 compatible (has arduino libs) Pinout isn't Teensy 1.0 compatible

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair

2012-02-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The paper mentions HC-40 crystals. They probably have the crystal drive current cranked down to optimize short term stability at 1 sec and longer. The phase noise floor takes a back seat. The other interesting thing in the paper is that the short term numbers shown aren't into parts in the

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread J. Forster
Put the URL into Google Translate. -John == I suspect a lot of the ebay sellers are buying stuff from Taobao and just reselling it. For example, this appears to be the original source of the FE-5680As which were supplied with the OCXO and socket (although he seems to have run

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread EWKehren
Pete Thanks for the link. Now it explains where they come from and what condition they are in. Again I like to warn against ggg*fitting that sell Morion as NEW and did sell FE 5680A as NEW. I did mail my very used sold as NEW back to them so someone will get it if you continue to buy from

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair

2012-02-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 02/26/2012 05:20 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi The paper mentions HC-40 crystals. They probably have the crystal drive current cranked down to optimize short term stability at 1 sec and longer. The phase noise floor takes a back seat. The other interesting thing in the paper is that the short

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair

2012-02-26 Thread Tom Knox
Is this the paper you are speaking of? Google: Optimization of Drive-Level in High Stability Low-Noise OCXOs Thomas Knox From: li...@rtty.us Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:20:16 -0500 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair Hi The paper mentions HC-40

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?

2012-02-26 Thread Jim Hickstein
In case anyone is following my progress, I started with EAGLE. It works fine on the Mac. I can tell it's not quite native (it even has a man(1) page!), but it's no problem. One afternoon with the tutorial, and I have a schematic. It's not yet complete, but that's not Eagle's fault: I'm

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair

2012-02-26 Thread John Miles
The other interesting thing in the paper is that the short term numbers shown aren't into parts in the 13th. The ADEV plot in figure 3 doesn't exactly show the oscillator in its best light. The right side of the 'bathtub' is well beyond 1000 seconds with these parts, if you actually let them

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair

2012-02-26 Thread John Miles
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts- boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Knox Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:41 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair Is this the paper you are speaking of? Google:

Re: [time-nuts] Super cheap AVR USB boards

2012-02-26 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:45 AM, cfo xne...@luna.kyed.com wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:28:47 -0500, Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you are shipping to North America, there are cheaper options. Bob Bob, I'm in N. America. What would those cheaper options be? Chris Albertson Redondo Beach,

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Bert and all, Very few occasions items like we talk about is really pristine, I expect it to be used and only try to judge about how much milage it has. Most of the dumpster diver level re-circulation folks has low knowledge, and some excel and actually has a clue, but if only the pictures

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?

2012-02-26 Thread NeonJohn
I use professionally. It was the best that our small company could afford. Here are some tips that will save you mucho grief. 1) This is the biggie. Make your own parts library. Then put any part that you have to create in that library. As well, put a copy of any standard library part in

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair

2012-02-26 Thread Tom Knox
I wonder how Wenzel looks at drive level, they seem to have their products dialed in. Thomas Knox From: jmi...@pop.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:48:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] Super cheap AVR USB boards

2012-02-26 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:25:48 + (UTC) cfo xne...@luna.kyed.com wrote: Just ordered 10 of each (max) £4 http://www.modtraders.co.uk/minimus-avr-usb-development-board.html £6 http://www.modtraders.co.uk/minimus-32-avr-usb-development-board.html I you want to do uC development, why not

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread EWKehren
Magnus My beef is that if you advertise NEW it should be NEW. I caught him once before and ebay made him change the listing. This time he had two listings one new and one used. I checked with him and paid extra for NEW and got the most banged up unit ever. All from the same stack. Finally

Re: [time-nuts] Super cheap AVR USB boards

2012-02-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I just did a quick Google search after seeing the shipping. I have not dealt with any of the guys who turned up. That makes me a bit hesitant to pass out any names. Bob On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:45 AM, cfo

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?

2012-02-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Verifying Gerbers on a trace by trace basis for a moderately complex multi-layer design could take a very long time. If you can't trust the program to go from the screen to the Gerbers, I'd say - find a new program... A bug like that nullifies any value from schematic checking or DRC. Bob

Re: [time-nuts] Super cheap AVR USB boards

2012-02-26 Thread Steve
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:42:46 +0100 Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:25:48 + (UTC) cfo xne...@luna.kyed.com wrote: Just ordered 10 of each (max) £4 http://www.modtraders.co.uk/minimus-avr-usb-development-board.html £6

Re: [time-nuts] Morion MV89A Repair

2012-02-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Most people put the best of the batch in the paper. It is indeed odd that the very experienced authors of the paper did not do so. With low drive a 5 MHz HC-40 should get into parts in the thirteenth over much of the bathtub region. Bob On Feb 26, 2012, at 3:22 PM, John Miles

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?

2012-02-26 Thread Brent Gordon
I've used EAGLE for about ten years. I strongly agree with what NeonJohn wrote below. I don't know if it is still the case, but when I started using EAGLE all of the library parts were on metric spacing (including DIPs and SMDs). This causes all sorts of headaches when doing a layout on

[time-nuts] Odetics 365 date/1024 week problem fix

2012-02-26 Thread Arthur Dent
I have owned an Odetics 365 GPStar Plus Time And Frequency System for some time and it  works fine except for the annoying date problem that apparently has something to do with the fairly common 1024 weeks limit where older GPS receivers display 2012 as 1992 and the day of the year is not

Re: [time-nuts] 5061's on ebay - FIXED IT

2012-02-26 Thread J. L. Trantham
Not being able to suppress my interests for too long, I explored my newly acquired 5061A this weekend. The problem was an oscillation in the A7 assembly, as determined by looking at the output at A7J6. I am not sure what I did to fix it but I removed all connections to the A7 and A8

Re: [time-nuts] Schematic capture, anyone?

2012-02-26 Thread Rick Karlquist
NeonJohn wrote: I use professionally. It was the best that our small company could afford. Here are some tips that will save you mucho grief. 1) This is the biggie. Make your own parts library. Then put any part that you have to create in that library. As well, put a copy of any

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: We in the description, indicate the is used. We have to make the best  possible treatment, a full refund to you, and pay for shipping costs  $13.17 If you don't change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't

Re: [time-nuts] Odetics 365 date/1024 week problem fix

2012-02-26 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Arthur, That's very interesing. I have a couple of 365's  plus a spares unit. One needs the active antenna so is not in use. It would be great to put a UT+ into it.  Any chance of a Binary file or copy of the 565 EPROM?   Thanks, Robert G8RPI. From: Arthur