Re: [time-nuts] Possible replacement for FE5680A

2012-03-12 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, build three and compare them but your comparator has to have a very low noise floor. I think that in addition to building new higher precision clocks you need to build new lower noise TI counters. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 3/10/12 2:42 PM,

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Kimberley
Lovely stuff!! Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Pete Lancashire Sent: 11 March 2012 17:56 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies 101A

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1201A

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Kimberley
Hi Joe, Just found this link:- http://home.catv.ne.jp/ff/y226/1/1-12/PhaseCompalator/sub1-12-PhaseComparato r.htm#1201B 1201A B similar. I think it was only cosmetic changes. Hope useful. Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On

Re: [time-nuts] Possible replacement for FE5680A

2012-03-12 Thread Jim Lux
On 3/12/12 2:20 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Yes, build three and compare them but your comparator has to have a very low noise floor. I think that in addition to building new higher precision clocks you need to build new lower noise TI counters. This is part of the thrill (or frustration) of

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread John Howell
I'll second that Rob! I have the HP 115BR and, what I believe to be a British version made for the Royal Navy by McMichael. Pictured here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/75ohm/6829984174/ and here http://www.flickr.com/photos/75ohm/6976111697/ Called a 'Clock Direct Reading' carrying NSN

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread Pete Lancashire
Other then the damage to the 1 rev per second wheel it looks like will not take much to clean up. My corrent idea is to start off with making a replacement on a laser printer and once I'm comfortable with how it looks have a few scales made on photographic paper. One discount retailer here in the

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread Greg Broburg
Just a note about jpg files, they are intentionally fuzzed as the Japanese Photo Experts Group concept is in the interest of visual art. So if you make a jpg of a schematic much of it will not be readable. Try Graphics Interchange Format gif to preserve computer generated details like lines and

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread David J Taylor
Just a note about jpg files, they are intentionally fuzzed as the Japanese Photo Experts Group concept is in the interest of visual art. s/Japanese/Joint/ So if you make a jpg of a schematic much of it will not be readable. Try Graphics Interchange Format gif to preserve computer generated

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 4f5e2d68.4010...@comcast.net, Greg Broburg writes: Just a note about jpg files, they are intentionally fuzzed as the Japanese Photo Experts Group concept is in the interest of visual art. So if you make a jpg of a schematic much of it will not be readable. Try Graphics Interchange

Re: [time-nuts] Possible replacement for FE5680A

2012-03-12 Thread Azelio Boriani
This is very interesting: I think you have a precision local clock source to accept a slowly varying input frequency and clean it for the transmission so that it is the clock source that ultimately dominates the output stability. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread DaveH
A minor nit... It's Joint Photographic Experts Group -- not Japanese. Designed __specifically__ for continuous tone color photographs. It was never intended for line drawings and will fail miserably with them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG My local Costco can also handle TIFF files which

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread Hal Murray
semif...@comcast.net said: Or if it is all text, the postscript file system is very good, it allows control of the entire page formatting in preservation of accurate alignments. Postscript also does lines and circles and ... Usually it gets (much) better results with text than you get from

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread Pete Lancashire
Do I know !! I've only been able to convince one Costco that the equipment they have can take tiff's and a few other formats. The other is to get them not to crop. When critical there are other shops but the price per print is much more. I guess consumer vs commercial customer and volume. On

Re: [time-nuts] Three HP oldies

2012-03-12 Thread Greg Broburg
Comments gif is much better than jpg It is normal to calibrate the print driver so that the accuracy is very good. If you put a ruler up on a printed 1 inch line and see that it is significantly off then the driver needs to be calibrated. Greg On 3/12/2012 1:23 PM, Hal Murray wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] 0MHz distribution...NOT

2012-03-12 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 03/10/2012 04:44 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: I've done this as well. I daisy chained several pieces of hp and marconi gear together that all had an approx 1k ohm input impedance for the frequency reference and fed them from a single 10 Mhz source via t connectors with a 50 ohm terminator at

Re: [time-nuts] 0MHz distribution...NOT

2012-03-12 Thread Bob Bownes
What, if any, are the phase changes? On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.comwrote: On 03/10/2012 04:44 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: I've done this as well. I daisy chained several pieces of hp and marconi gear together that all had an approx 1k ohm input

Re: [time-nuts] 0MHz distribution...NOT

2012-03-12 Thread Mark Spencer
Also the effect was not observed when the same gpsdo was fed directly into the 5370 and the same equipment was power cycled. Sorry it's been long day wrestling with network clocking issues at the office (: Sent from my iPod On 2012-03-12, at 7:37 PM, Mark Spencer mspencer12...@yahoo.ca