Re: [time-nuts] LEA6-T Group Buy

2012-04-03 Thread Sylvain Munaut
Hi, Anyone know if these will have the RAW output for use with RTKLib? I'm not sure exactly what's required for RTKLib, but you can read the ublox protocol specs to know what informations are available. Also assume can program for 10 MHz out? Yes, but it's not necessarely a good idea. The

Re: [time-nuts] would an optical primary standard provide any general benefit?

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, but nonetheless why not develop more stable primary clock sources? We can always take care of the dissemination in the meantime and try to develop a more precise time transfer method. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:39 AM, beale be...@bealecorner.com wrote: Having read this NIST review paper by

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Chuck, I usually see GPS antennae flashed by lightning: have succedeed opening and repairing a couple of them but at times they are too bad to do anything. I use a network analyzer to test them after repairing here at work. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:24 AM, gary li...@lazygranch.com wrote: Going

Re: [time-nuts] would an optical primary standard provide any general benefit?

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Agreed. My consideration was general but, yes, money is necessary so a decision is a must to properly allocate the financial resources. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 4/3/12 12:49 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Yes, but nonetheless why not develop more

Re: [time-nuts] would an optical primary standard provide any general benefit?

2012-04-03 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/3/12 5:22 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Agreed. My consideration was general but, yes, money is necessary so a decision is a must to properly allocate the financial resources. Well.. we could hope for a fabulously wealthy patron who thinks that it would be a good thing to fund time-nuts of

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread cfo
On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:28:40 -0700, Bob Martin wrote: Bill-- The Thunderbolt wants a higher gain antenna than most standard GPS receivers. I tried standard Garmin active antennas, and while they worked (I have a good view of the sky), signal levels could be better. Best match probably

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
The Symmetricom item 300571554900 you listed below includes a GPS. It is not just an antenna. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: 03 April 2012 15:31 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread cfo
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:40:05 +0100, Rob Kimberley wrote: The Symmetricom item 300571554900 you listed below includes a GPS. It is not just an antenna. Rob Kimberley Oopzz , good catch (sorry) 280847506469 (us) 320878139168 (cn) Might be better cfo

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-03 Thread EWKehren
Ed Thank you for your interest. I have checked many of the circuits which is made easy in some cases because it is a duplication of the M100 in some areas and the FRS in others. I have both for comparison. Do to the very high densely packaging is it not easy to probe since some of the

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
They look OK. :-) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: 03 April 2012 15:51 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:40:05 +0100, Rob Kimberley wrote: The

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread shalimr9
Hi Chuck, Mine is not dead, just hard of hearing... Once I realized that, I set it aside and I have not used it in years. I got it with a red box Thunderbolt I bought from a lit member a long time ago. It has some obvious signs of experience being outside. It is possible that moisture got

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread shalimr9
The elevation angle filter is based on the satellite position, not the actual direction the signals come from. If you have reflections and multipath, but the satellite is otherwise high in the sky, you are out of luck regardless of elevation angle filter. Of course, the higher the sat, the

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Of course the elevation mask is only software and doesn't prevent the bad signal from entering the antenna but then the signal will not despread and should cause no harm to the computations. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:19 PM, shali...@gmail.com wrote: The elevation angle filter is based on the

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread shalimr9
If the satellite is above the mask, the signal will be used in computing a solution even if it got in through reflexions and multipath. That's why a good antenna with choke rings is desirable. Didier KO4BB Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Absolutely true, that's why it is advisable to dare with the elevation mask and set it rather high (upto 20 deg?) if the antenna is clear above but there is the possibility for multipath or reflections (i.e. surrounded by buildings). Of course the choke rings antenna is better... guess how much

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread bg
Typical chokerings are L1/L2 geodetic antennas. There is however simple L1-only chokerings available from time to time on *bay. I have often seen them as low as in the $50 range. Orginal use I think was for DGPS reference stations. Most seem to be the Aeroantenna model in the url below.

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, there was an antenna with the sting months ago, now that I see your PDF I remember but can't remember the price and the brand. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:05 PM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Typical chokerings are L1/L2 geodetic antennas. There is however simple L1-only chokerings available

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Hal Murray
shali...@gmail.com said: I got it with a red box Thunderbolt I bought from a lit member a long time ago. It has some obvious signs of experience being outside. It is possible that moisture got inside. Maybe I should try to take it apart? Not sure how to open it without breaking the radome.