Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Dan Rae
All this kerfuffle about that Rubidium Clock kind of misses the point. This is not some "Audiophool" thing but a serious piece of gear used for recording studios. I am not going to get into the pricing of it, but if you add up the cost of a /new/ Rb unit, distribution amp, power supply and ba

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <52252.12.6.201.2.1336403114.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com>, "J. Fors ter" writes: >Any Audiophool knows green electricity sounds much better, without any >artifacts produced by those annoying carbon atoms in coal, oil, or natural >gas, rattling around producing annoying distractions. U

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Frederick Bray
And for those who want a good debunking article to show to their non-technical friends: http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/power-cables On 5/7/2012 8:01 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message<226574.14407...@smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, "Burt I. Weiner" w rites: Be sure to che

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Jim Lux
On 5/7/12 7:39 AM, Burt I. Weiner wrote: A friend of mine signed me up for a catalog from the "Audio Advisor". He said I deserved this - I was afraid to ask what he meant by that! Spend a few minutes looking over this site: http://www.audioadvisor.com/ Be sure to check out their "Power cords" at:

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread J. Forster
Nope. Any Audiophool knows green electricity sounds much better, without any artifacts produced by those annoying carbon atoms in coal, oil, or natural gas, rattling around producing annoying distractions. -John > In message <226574.14407...@smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <226574.14407...@smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, "Burt I. Weiner" w rites: > Be sure to check out their >"Power cords" at: http://home-audio.audioadvisor.com/search?w=Power+Cords I always wondered how the distortion could stop right at the power outlet, but I see that somebody has co

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Rob Kimberley
I must get one of their line cords to see if it will improve my timing system!! You just have to laugh at this nonsense. Rob K -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Burt I. Weiner Sent: 07 May 2012 15:39 To: time-nuts@febo.co

[time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Burt I. Weiner
A friend of mine signed me up for a catalog from the "Audio Advisor". He said I deserved this - I was afraid to ask what he meant by that! Spend a few minutes looking over this site: http://www.audioadvisor.com/ Be sure to check out their "Power cords" at: http://home-audio.audioadvisor.com

Re: [time-nuts] Chat Room?

2012-05-07 Thread J. Forster
I suggest that the kind of techno-eliteism displayed in these comment, in fact, breeds the kind of drivel in that eBay ad. An average reader is simply not equipped to deal with piles of BS, whether it is about Rubidiums and sampling rate stability or phase noise or Adev and LadyHeather. YMMV, -J

Re: [time-nuts] Chat Room?

2012-05-07 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, that is the case: if I have no clue than simply I don't write nothing... Roberto, please, if you have any question, try now. I'm here. You were trying to set up a "lock identifier" for the XOR type FLL. I suggested a simple "count the difference" method: an UP-DOWN counter tied to the two 10KH

Re: [time-nuts] Chat Room?

2012-05-07 Thread Rob Kimberley
I've not seen many questions ignored on this excellent group. If they were, then maybe, just maybe no one had an answer at that time. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Roberto Barrios Sent: 07 May 2012 14:1

Re: [time-nuts] Chat Room?

2012-05-07 Thread Don Lewis
amen -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:15 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Chat Room? Time nuts has turned in to a chat room to people that have diarrhea of th

Re: [time-nuts] Chat Room?

2012-05-07 Thread Roberto Barrios
Hi Bert, Couldn't agree more with you. On the other hand, and which is even worse, questions from not-so-hardcore-time-nuts are simply ignored on a random basis. I'm leaving the group. If you ever come to or need something from Spain, let me know. Regards, Roberto EB4EQA -Original M

[time-nuts] Chat Room?

2012-05-07 Thread EWKehren
Time nuts has turned in to a chat room to people that have diarrhea of their fingers. The result is that many of us converse off list and do not contribute to meaningful dialog. Are there not rules and if yes, should they not be respected and adhered to? Bert Kehren ___

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Raj
>But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at >http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html >It's an MP3 player with high precision timing. It does not only use >two TCXOs with <5ps Jitter.. No! It also employes a technique known >as "Jitter Kill" for the ultimate mobile sound experience! :

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Chris Stake
How does the fool get his money? Chris Stake > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Rob Kimberley > Sent: 07 May 2012 11:55 > To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear >

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Rob Kimberley
An old saying: "a fool and his money are often parted". Sums things up nicely I feel. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Javier Herrero Sent: 07 May 2012 11:30 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Javier Herrero
El 07/05/2012 11:20, Attila Kinali escribió: But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html It's an MP3 player with high precision timing. It does not only use two TCXOs with <5ps Jitter.. No! It also employes a technique known as "Jitter Kill" f

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread MailLists
Let's expect the ultimate portable MP3 player with atomic clock reference... >:] Also funny are the offerings with RbO CD-clocks... usually "tweaked" FE-5680s, which are not exactly famous for a clean jitter/spurious free output signal... The only reason is the easiness of output frequency ad

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:40:15 +0530 Raj wrote: > I once did a test with a "audio expert" and compared a CD and a digital copy. > He confirmed that the copy was the original and when I showed him which was > which > he still refused to believe.. I know a local guy who gold plated the PCBs for > h

Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear

2012-05-07 Thread Raj
I once did a test with a "audio expert" and compared a CD and a digital copy. He confirmed that the copy was the original and when I showed him which was which he still refused to believe.. I know a local guy who gold plated the PCBs for his home brewed amp! Raj At 07-05-2012, you wrote: >These

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting paper: Don't GPSD' your Rb...

2012-05-07 Thread Azelio Boriani
Magnus, >If you flip back and forth, then it makes sense because your phase deviations >will be less. Can you further explain this? Thanks. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > Hi Bill, > > > On 05/07/2012 05:12 AM, Bill Hawkins wrote: > >> Thanks for the analysis, Magnus.

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