Re: [time-nuts] FRK specs.....

2012-08-12 Thread Tom Knox
Hi Brian; There are a few decent rubidium oscillators short term like the SRS but none are great, in my humble opinion you are much better off disciplining a good quartz oscillator off your LPRO. Best Wishes; Thomas Knox From: wa1...@att.net Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:56:13 -0700 To:

Re: [time-nuts] ADEV drop

2012-08-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/12/2012 05:02 AM, WarrenS wrote: The basic problem is that one can not meet Allan's requirement of the integral of the instantaneous frequencies over tau0 time and Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem requirement if taking just one raw phase sample per displayed ADEV tau0. The two

Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt output harmonics

2012-08-12 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi Grant -- Welcome! I'd say you're doing OK; most frequency standards don't put a lot of emphasis on harmonic purity in the specs. Better than 45dB down is pretty good, and not much TF gear is highly sensitive to harmonics. I would *not* add a bandpass filter unless you really need to.

Re: [time-nuts] FRK specs.....

2012-08-12 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
Thanks Tom. I agree, the SRS seems to be the best overall Rb except maybe on old HP if one is willing to spend about the same price on a 20 year old unit. The SRS units I bought for work were only $2700 with chassis, rack ears and multiple outputs. -Brian, WA1ZMS On Aug 12, 2012, at 3:17

Re: [time-nuts] FRK specs.....

2012-08-12 Thread EWKehren
In the commercial world a PRS10 is most likely the best but for time nuts even at the surplus price in my opinion it is all hype and a waste of money. Have you looked closely at the specification and the design. Frequency accuracy can not be better than 1 E-12 since the OCXO is driven

Re: [time-nuts] problem with HP 59309A digital clock and HP IL/IB interface

2012-08-12 Thread Hans Holzach
pete, thank you for your advice. unfortunately i did not get much help there. the problem with the clock seems to be more complex than i thought. hans ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] FRK specs.....

2012-08-12 Thread dlewis6767
Bert: Interesting. I, too, have a couple of the HP 10811 oven-oscillators sitting on the shelf for several years, waiting for a project. I want to 'discipline' them, but really do not know how. Could you kindly mark up the HP 10811 schematic and/or please tell me what to cut, ... what to

Re: [time-nuts] FRK specs.....

2012-08-12 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
Me too, please. -Brian, WA1ZMS -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of dlewis6...@austin.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 2:55 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FRK

Re: [time-nuts] FRK specs.....

2012-08-12 Thread bg
Hi Don, Bert: Interesting. I, too, have a couple of the HP 10811 oven-oscillators sitting on the shelf for several years, waiting for a project. I want to 'discipline' them, but really do not know how. Also look at John's modification of a Thunderbolt.

[time-nuts] Python module

2012-08-12 Thread Joseph Gray
I came across this Python module and thought some here might find it of interest. http://apenwarr.ca/log/?m=201208#10 Joe Gray W5JG ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt output harmonics

2012-08-12 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Grant wrote: I tamed the provided switching power supply noise with some L's and C's, and am now looking at the 10MHz output on a spectrum analyzer. Here is what I measured: 10MHz +9dbm 20MHz-50dbm 30MHz -37dbm no obvious higher harmonics broad noise envelope at 60 75MHz @ -60dbm

Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt output harmonics

2012-08-12 Thread John Miles
10MHz +9dbm 20MHz-50dbm 30MHz -37dbm no obvious higher harmonics broad noise envelope at 60 75MHz @ -60dbm peak Are these results typical or might I have an adjustment or other problem? I seem to have missed the part where it's explained why anyone cares about the harmonic

Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt output harmonics

2012-08-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 08/13/2012 01:24 AM, John Miles wrote: 10MHz +9dbm 20MHz-50dbm 30MHz -37dbm no obvious higher harmonics broad noise envelope at 60 75MHz @ -60dbm peak Are these results typical or might I have an adjustment or other problem? I seem to have missed the part where it's explained why

Re: [time-nuts] T-Bolt output harmonics

2012-08-12 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
john wrote: Or they [line harmonics] were cancelled by running the TBolt and spectrum analyzer from the same AC circuit. That's tripped me up before. Good thought, although probably not the case here. The Tbolt is supplied from a double conversion UPS with an output that is not referred

Re: [time-nuts] problem with HP 59309A digital clock and HP IL/IB interface

2012-08-12 Thread Brent Gordon
I'm not familiar with the 59309A, but here are some things to try: Are you able to read just one character (1A)? Does the 59309A need a command to send the time? Have you tried setting the 59309A to talk-only mode? On 8/2/2012 2:20 PM, Hans Holzach wrote: RESET HPIL RESTORE IO